Poll: Which Would You Choose?
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PRS SE Custom Semi-hollow
33 63%
Epiphone Sheraton II
19 37%
Voters: 52.
#1
I have been searching for the 'right' first electric guitar for like a year now. There are only small guitar shops around where I live so playing a bunch of different ones to see what I like is difficult.

I like a lot of different music, the only thing I'm not that in to is heavy metal.

My favorite bands are Modest Mouse, Mewithoutyou, Streetlight Manifesto, Brand New, Bright Eyes, Circa Survive, Saves the Day, Death Cab, Sublime.

I like a lot of acoustic, clean, and bluesy sounds too.

Do you think a semi-hollow would be the way to go?

So far, I think I've narrowed it down to two guitars, but I'd like your opinion about which one you'd choose, or what you would recommend as another option.


PRS SE Custom Semi-hollow:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/closeup/SECustHlwTS--Main


Or

Epiphone Sheraton II:
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Sheraton-II-Electric-Guitar?sku=518240

As of yet, I have only gotten a chance to play the PRS, which I liked quite a bit, mostly because of how the neck fit my bigger hands perfectly. I'm hoping the Epiphone has a chunkier neck as well.

Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it!
#2
i like the SE myself. just prefer it over the epiphone for various reasons. i like the neck shape, think it could handle distortion better, prefer the finish (this one for me http://www.sweetwater.com/guitargallery/electric/all/sJ04853/), i prefer a longer scale (25" as opposed to 24.75" of the epiphone). they're two very different guitars, though. would be best for you to try both, but i know what kind of position you're in. i couldn't find my acoustic anywhere to test out before i bought it online.
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#3
Haha, Well it looks like all the votes are for the PRS. Do you think I should stick with this PRS or get a solidbody PRS? Is there that much of a difference in sound?


Quote by LifeIsABullet16
i like the SE myself. just prefer it over the epiphone for various reasons. i like the neck shape, think it could handle distortion better, prefer the finish (this one for me http://www.sweetwater.com/guitargallery/electric/all/sJ04853/), i prefer a longer scale (25" as opposed to 24.75" of the epiphone). they're two very different guitars, though. would be best for you to try both, but i know what kind of position you're in. i couldn't find my acoustic anywhere to test out before i bought it online.


Good points. Yeah I might have to order offline too which I'm kind of worried about.
#4
I don't like this PRS in particular, even don't like their designs in general, but PRSs are very well build, fine instruments, unlike EPIs - just pretty solid industrial mass production items.

I'd go with PRS, despite of this repulsive look
#5
personally, getting a solid body would be the way to go. cause if you'll try going high gain metal, feedback will be a bitch. but you can still get some good cleans depending on your EQ, pickups, amp, etc...
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Quote by randomhero93
personally, getting a solid body would be the way to go. cause if you'll try going high gain metal, feedback will be a bitch. but you can still get some good cleans depending on your EQ, pickups, amp, etc...


Yeah, I see what you're saying. Ugh this is why it's taken me so long to find a guitar haha. I keep going back and forth, weighing the pros and cons. Maybe I'm over thinking it or being to picky lol.


Quote by GrandWazoo
I don't like this PRS in particular, even don't like their designs in general, but PRSs are very well build, fine instruments, unlike EPIs - just pretty solid industrial mass production items.

I'd go with PRS, despite of this repulsive look



Haha, I'll admit when I first saw this guitar I didn't think it was great looking either, but the shape has grown on me.
#7
I personally would go for the Epiphone, but i'm really biased against PRS guitars. I don't know why, they just feel wrong in my hands, they aren't my sound, and most all of them look like ass to me.
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#8
I really like both of these guitars but I vote PRS because I like longer scale lengths and you say it felt good in your hands. The feel is really most important. I own a solidbody SE and it actually gets played more than guitars I own that cost 2-4 times as much. I think an SE is a great choice for a first electric. The hollowbody isn't so hollow you will have big problems with feedback which might not be the case with the Epi.
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#9
Quote by fretz86
I really like both of these guitars but I vote PRS because I like longer scale lengths and you say it felt good in your hands. The feel is really most important. I own a solidbody SE and it actually gets played more than guitars I own that cost 2-4 times as much. I think an SE is a great choice for a first electric. The hollowbody isn't so hollow you will have big problems with feedback which might not be the case with the Epi.



I wondering if I should go for a solid body SE instead. Which one do you have? I think I would like the singlecut or maybe the tremonti. Does your solidbody SE get good clean sounds? Any problems with it? Tuning stability issues? Thanks for your help! I appreciate it.
#10
Go with a semi-hollow PRS. You could also check out Warmoth, if you're looking for anything to fit your own specs. The clean sounds on a guitar is based upon 3 things usually:

Technique
Amp
Pickups

If all of those are fine, then you'll have a good clean tone. I have heard that the SE series has not that great of pickups, so the pickups might need to be changed.

Also, don't just settle for the SE if you're looking at PRS guitars. Check out the used market, like craigslist or ebay. While the high-end PRSes get over $2,500 or around that price, used PRSes get around $1,000 or so.

I strongly recommend warmoth if bolt-on necks do not bother you. You can build your own high quality guitar with whatever specs you want, shape, etc.
#11
I just wanted to say that I'd DEFINITELY buy the Epi Sheraton. This isn't even a contest in my mind...I've never got on very well with the low/mid end PRS stuff, but I'm very fond of Epi Archtop guitars. They are just great pieces of kit.
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#12
Quote by FallsDownStairs
Go with a semi-hollow PRS. You could also check out Warmoth, if you're looking for anything to fit your own specs. The clean sounds on a guitar is based upon 3 things usually:

Technique
Amp
Pickups

If all of those are fine, then you'll have a good clean tone. I have heard that the SE series has not that great of pickups, so the pickups might need to be changed.

Also, don't just settle for the SE if you're looking at PRS guitars. Check out the used market, like craigslist or ebay. While the high-end PRSes get over $2,500 or around that price, used PRSes get around $1,000 or so.

I strongly recommend warmoth if bolt-on necks do not bother you. You can build your own high quality guitar with whatever specs you want, shape, etc.


I was actually checking Warmoth out and thought it would be awesome to get one from them. However, I wouldn't know what neck to choose, because they don't have a 'PRS neck' option do they? And also, I have no idea how to put a guitar together on my own haha.
#13
Quote by TheWaydown
I was actually checking Warmoth out and thought it would be awesome to get one from them. However, I wouldn't know what neck to choose, because they don't have a 'PRS neck' option do they? And also, I have no idea how to put a guitar together on my own haha.
Yeah, Warmoth are fantastic when you know what you're doing but if you've got any doubts at all, you might as well not bother. A safer option might be Carvin though - similar quality and price, a few less options but they do put it together themselves.

Quote by Kurapica
I just wanted to say that I'd DEFINITELY buy the Epi Sheraton. This isn't even a contest in my mind...I've never got on very well with the low/mid end PRS stuff, but I'm very fond of Epi Archtop guitars. They are just great pieces of kit.
Seconding this. If there is one thing Epiphone do and have always done very well, it's their archtop guitars. On the other hand I've never found a PRS SE model that's been built worth a damn. Buying the Epi would be a no-brainer for me.
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#14
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Yeah, Warmoth are fantastic when you know what you're doing but if you've got any doubts at all, you might as well not bother. A safer option might be Carvin though - similar quality and price, a few less options but they do put it together themselves.

Seconding this. If there is one thing Epiphone do and have always done very well, it's their archtop guitars. On the other hand I've never found a PRS SE model that's been built worth a damn. Buying the Epi would be a no-brainer for me.



lol Damn you! After all the PRS responses, I thought my mind was made up, now I'm getting the Epiphone responses and I'm confused again. I just wish I didn't care so much and could get the first guitar I picked up haha. I just am trying so hard to make sure I get the best guitar for me, and it's hard to do for under 1,000 bucks.

My ideal guitar would be around 700 bucks, a wide thick neck, humbuckers w/ coiltap, hardtail, 25 ish scale length, and preferably a natural or sunburst color, although at this point it could be bright pink and I could care less. Schecter has one or two but I can't find anyone who freaking carries schecters in their store to try out. I even went to a guitarcenter and they only had 2 or 3 and they were like the 'metal' style guitars. I give up, haha.
#15
Yeah my GC generally only stocks the FR and EMG equipped Schecters too. Yes the SE does cleans very well, great pickups on these guitars, IMO. Pretty good tuning stability, a better nut and/or locking tuners would make it rock solid. Had a jack that wasn't tight but it was a 2 minute fix and other than that no issues. I have a Billy Martin signature model from a few years back, I was like you I didn't care what it looked like and it was the best playing SE I could find (I think they only had two models back then this and the Santana). I've played some of the newer ones and they are even better. As far as solid or hollow the hollow will give you a bigger sound and probably sound better clean. Some people hate the SE line but like any "budget" guitar there are good ones and bad ones so play it before you buy. Like I said before the Sheraton is a great chunk o wood too. I also like the Carvin idea, you could get a very nice guitar for 1000 from them.
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#16
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Yeah my GC generally only stocks the FR and EMG equipped Schecters too. Yes the SE does cleans very well, great pickups on these guitars, IMO. Pretty good tuning stability, a better nut and/or locking tuners would make it rock solid. Had a jack that wasn't tight but it was a 2 minute fix and other than that no issues. I have a Billy Martin signature model from a few years back, I was like you I didn't care what it looked like and it was the best playing SE I could find (I think they only had two models back then this and the Santana). I've played some of the newer ones and they are even better. As far as solid or hollow the hollow will give you a bigger sound and probably sound better clean. Some people hate the SE line but like any "budget" guitar there are good ones and bad ones so play it before you buy. Like I said before the Sheraton is a great chunk o wood too. I also like the Carvin idea, you could get a very nice guitar for 1000 from them.


Yeah, I like a lot of the Carvin guitars, but 1,000 bucks is quite a bit of money for me, especially when I can't play it before I get it. That makes me kind of nervous. It's probably not bad when you are experienced with electric guitars and know exactly the specs you want. I mean, I know the features I want, but wouldn't know how to go about ordering a neck that would be good for me. I was planning on 1,000 bucks, amp included; thinking the Vox VT50.
#17
Yeah I know 1k is steep since I think I recall this being your 1st electric. Have you considered buying used, you can save some serious cash that way and get better gear.
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#18
It sounds like you're into stuff with pretty tame guitar sounds. A hollowbody will serve you well for that.

I'd take the PRS over the Epi in a heart beat.
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#19
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Seconding this. If there is one thing Epiphone do and have always done very well, it's their archtop guitars. On the other hand I've never found a PRS SE model that's been built worth a damn. Buying the Epi would be a no-brainer for me.



More agreement with the idea that Epiphone makes great guitars of this type.
#20
Quote by MrFlibble
Seconding this. If there is one thing Epiphone do and have always done very well, it's their archtop guitars. On the other hand I've never found a PRS SE model that's been built worth a damn. Buying the Epi would be a no-brainer for me.


I agree with this as well Epiphone got it's reputation with it's semi and hollow body electrics. Even Gibson couldn't compete with Epi as far as quality goes on guitars like the Sheraton, Alley Cat, Casino etc. Epi still take care with their archtops they are still some of the best out there. I do not own any Epi archtops but i have played many of them and friends of mine swear by them. I also have to agree with the quality of the PRS SE models being of poor quality. I have yet to find any PRS SE guitar I can say I would purchase.


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#21
Quote by johnro6659
I agree with this as well Epiphone got it's reputation with it's semi and hollow body electrics. Even Gibson couldn't compete with Epi as far as quality goes on guitars like the Sheraton, Alley Cat, Casino etc. Epi still take care with their archtops they are still some of the best out there. I do not own any Epi archtops but i have played many of them and friends of mine swear by them. I also have to agree with the quality of the PRS SE models being of poor quality. I have yet to find any PRS SE guitar I can say I would purchase.


John



When I played that semi-hollow PRS SE, I was blown away with the shape of the neck. I have larger hands and had never played a wide, thick neck. It fit my hand perfectly. Speaking from the quality standpoint, that guitar had 2 really sharp frets that made it painful to play on any frets involving the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd haha. I didn't let it bother me because I figured this was an easy fix, but because I would probably have to order a guitar online since there are no stores around me, it makes me think twice about the SE's.

I appreciate everyone's input, even though I'm probably more confused than when I started the thread haha. I think I will try to find the Sheraton and give it a try, and maybe try to find some other PRS SE's, as well as Schecters.
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I agree with this as well Epiphone got it's reputation with it's semi and hollow body electrics. Even Gibson couldn't compete with Epi as far as quality goes on guitars like the Sheraton, Alley Cat, Casino etc.

What you're talking about was the old US production. That doesn't have much to do with the newer imports.
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I'll second the Solidac, if you can find one locally to try out. Very good quality instruments, especially for the price. Haven't found myself really using the piezo yet on mine, but it never hurts to have a feature like that.
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