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#1
Guys I play for hours and the strat is a heavy beast and I was wondering if there were guitars that are lighter but have that same single coil sound and shape.

It should have the same shape that a fender strat does because Im so used to playing it, but its too damn heavy to stand with for like 2.5 hours.

Prob a hollow body. Any recommendations?

Thanks

Am I doing something wrong with the way that I play.

I only stand and play and I play for like 2 -3 hours and dont notice the time go bye.

then after im done and i start to move my body and EVERYTHING hurts.

My legs hurt....my shoulders hurt and my picking hand around the elbow is like sore as hell.

Why is my body hurting, when I watch others play for hours?

I stretch before playing most of the time.
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#3
An SG is pretty damn light, humbuckers though
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#4
FYI, strats are one of the lightest guitars out there. Hollow bodies are going to change your sound a lot and aren't necessarily going to be lighter. I suggest sucking it up.
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#5
I always found Strats to be quite light guitars, maybe thats because I am used to playing a Les Paul. What sort of price range are you looking in?
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#6
I'd suggest you seek guitar stores for strat-like guitars made from different woods.
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Go get some Basswood HSS Ibanez if you're that much of a girl. What's your budget?


Actually what kind of strat do you actually have?
#8
Buy a chambered strat body from www.warmoth.com
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#9
Am I doing something wrong with the way that I play.

I only stand and play and I play for like 2 -3 hours and dont notice the time go bye.

then after im done and i start to move my body and EVERYTHING hurts.

My legs hurt....my shoulders hurt and my picking hand around the elbow is like sore as hell.

Why is my body hurting, when I watch others play for hours?

I stretch before playing most of the time.
Last edited by harkkam at Dec 14, 2009,
#10
i always thought that fender makes some pretty light strats, my 50s reissue for example is light as hell... i think they have light strats in their product range, i suggest just checking out some fender strats, maybe yours is built like a tank, ive seen strats that weigh about a ton
#11
To be honest, I'm going to tell you to suck it up and get used to the weight, a strat is nothing. I jump around for 2 hours with a Les Paul, and a strat would be even more of a walk in the park. Before semi-hollows, you don't get stuff that's much lighter than a strat.
God forbid you getting a Les Paul.

edit: As for the problem you're having with pain, try to loosen up a bit when you stand there. move some around and dont be so stiff, if you stand cramped in one place you will get really stiff, and blood won't flow properly.
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Quote by harkkam
Am I doing something wrong with the way that I play.

I only stand and play and I play for like 2 -3 hours and dont notice the time go bye.

then after im done and i start to move my body and EVERYTHING hurts.

My legs hurt....my shoulders hurt and my picking hand around the elbow is like sore as hell.

Why is my body hurting, when I watch others play for hours?

I stretch before playing most of the time.

What kind of stap are you using? and is your guitar at an actual comfortable height? Regardless of how "cool" you look wearing it around your knees.
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#13
It may be you strap that is causing it to feel heavy rather than the guitar its self a crappy strap is horrible to play or it could be the position of your strap as I find it very uncomfortable to play if you have you guitar hung low down.
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#14
a strat is light
although tbh a fender one can be quite heavy (compared to something like a squier)
if its the 50s strat i tried one and it felt heavy

i would suggest a mustang or a cyclone
#15
I keep the strap long and I got a nice leather one with pads on it.


I usually keep the guitar low because I have long arms and i find that keeping the guitar close to the body causes my right hand to get really sore around the elbow?

Thats the worst, the right hand (picking hand) near my elbow it like burns.

Keeping the guitar lower allows me to keep my right hand straighter and less bent.
#16
I think im too skinny and out of shape to play guitar for that long. Lol im 5'11 and 150 lbs and barely have any muscle and I guess its time to hit the bench.
#18
Try lengthening your strap so it's no different to where your guitar is when you're playing sitting down.
#19
Light guitar that sounds like a strat? Ok... a strat! Seriously, if you're that out of shape, it's time to consider hitting the gym. My schecter is all mahogany, I practice standing for about 2 hours at a time, and I've never had any problems. Also, MOVE WHILE YOU PLAY.
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#20
Just raise the guitar up, really. Just to something comfortable, cause fair enough putting it too high can be a bit wrong for some people.

And try to work on your technique as well. Just loosen up quite a bit, that's why it hurts all the time.
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#22
I suppose it comes down to what timber the guitar is made of i know some woods have a dencer grain so weigh more than others i have a custom built Telecaster that breaks your shoulder compared to my Strat.
#23
Actually, alder is a pretty heavy tonewood. My strat (alder, maple neck) is a bit heavier than my SG (full mahogany)

Try some basswood body guitar. Opposite to some beliefs, basswood is NOT a bad tonewood, it's just cheaper than the others.

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#24
After 2-3 hours of consistent playing it's normal for your body too hurt but you're probably doing somethings wrong and have bad posture.
#25
If you think strats are heavy then i suggest you stay away from any mahogany guitar. Mahogany super strats weigh about twice what a regular one does. IMO 6 pounds isn't heavy anyways.
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#26
a strat is causing your entire body to hurt?

honestly, i would get that checked out, i play a gibson les paul and have never once been in pain after playing. and i'm skinny too, 5'9 148 lbs. i run and occasionally play tennis, but never do any weight training.
#27
Is it just making your muscles sore? If it's just sore muscles, your body is adjusting to holding the guitar, and you'll eventually stop getting sore.

But I can't imagine a strat causing all that. Maybe it's something you should go see a doctor about.

At the very least, start playing sitting down.
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#28
Wide leather or padded strap followed quickly by growing a pair. The only thing lighter then a Strat is a Parker, or maybe and SG
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#29
Quote by harkkam
Am I doing something wrong with the way that I play.

I only stand and play and I play for like 2 -3 hours and dont notice the time go bye.

then after im done and i start to move my body and EVERYTHING hurts.

My legs hurt....my shoulders hurt and my picking hand around the elbow is like sore as hell.

Why is my body hurting, when I watch others play for hours?

I stretch before playing most of the time.


You could very well be doing something wrong, or you just are that weak in muscles. I suggest you start weight lifting. Stratocasters are the lightest instruments on the market. My strat is about 5.5-6.5lbs, as an estimate.

Hollow bodies don't always mean lighter, and as someone said, it drastically changes tone. So does body woods. I suggest you either buy a replacement body that's lighter weight, or just get used to it.

I will also say that most Fenders are smothered in Poly finishes, which adds to some of the weight. If you buy a replacement body, maybe try a nitro finish.
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TS, are you by chance terminally ill?
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#31
I'm 6'2" 200lbs. I get tired after standing there with a guitar slung around my shoulders for a few hours.

It's normal. You want some relief? Try taking a bit of a break half way through.
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#32
i recommend having a few beers.

I'm 5'7 130 pounds, and I can play all my strats for hours upon end standing up with no discomfort... yeah...
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#33
Yeah i have weak bones and muscles and like I have abs. no exercise. I think my muscles being weak they get sore faster and damaged.

SO far Ive caused two nerve damages.

1. I sat on a rough chair and the weight of the guitar on my leg and the chair underneath my leg squeezed the nerves and caused me to get drop foot.

2. My picking hand is messed up to the point that I cant use my right hand to write anymore and it like gets stuck when I try to write it.


Thats why I never play sitting down. And why i stopped playing bcuz I cant write anymore.

I went to the doctors. But will go again.

I think that I am gonna get a professional teacher perhaps to show me proper technique so I stop injuring myself.

Are there any sites or videos that show how to have proper technique?
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Quote by harkkam
Yeah i have weak bones and muscles and like I have abs. no exercise. I think my muscles being weak they get sore faster and damaged.

SO far Ive caused two nerve damages.

1. I sat on a rough chair and the weight of the guitar on my leg and the chair underneath my leg squeezed the nerves and caused me to get drop foot.

2. My picking hand is messed up to the point that I cant use my right hand to write anymore and it like gets stuck when I try to write it.


Thats why I never play sitting down. And why i stopped playing bcuz I cant write anymore.

I went to the doctors. But will go again.

I think that I am gonna get a professional teacher perhaps to show me proper technique so I stop injuring myself.

Are there any sites or videos that show how to have proper technique?

I'm going to be frank with you my friend, you need to get some exercise. You sound like you're in terrible health if normal guitar stuff can actually hurt you. Go for a walk every day or something man, it'll do ya good.
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#35
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An SG is pretty damn light, humbuckers though


The SG has good qualities of the Strat and the Les Paul. I think it would be a good
choice.

Playing guitar is a gradual process. You have to build up your speed as well as your
stamina. Also No matter now healthy your are...if you sit in one spot for to long and then make a sudden movement..you will throw your back out.
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#36
It's a terrible choice if you want the "single coil sound."
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#37
yeah, you sound way too weak to even live. start eating a bit more and walk and excersise. honestly, if a strat is killing you, then you need to step up. i can play a strat for almost 5 hours straight standing up. (I actually almost did at one of my band jams). I always play while standing if I have a strap on me (like guitar center doesn't give test straps, so I sit to play there, but thats it). Strats are really light, thats why they sound as they do.
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#38
1. thicker strap

2. raise the guitar

3. some strats are heavier than others. what type you got?


all of this, like said, including the fact that 3 hrs is a long time, you're breaking in those muscles, and you should work out a little.
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#39
If your strat weighs less than 8 pounds, buck up. If it weighs more, sell it and get another.
#40
I proscribe a bottle or 2 of protein shake and a pint size mug of man the f*ck up =p
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