Poll: What do you think?
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View poll results: What do you think?
It's wrong and we shouldn't do it
45 17%
It's right and we should do it
70 26%
Depends on the severity of the situation
67 25%
Santa isn't real?!
86 32%
Voters: 268.
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#1
Or to lie to make a person happy in general? The Santa thing is just an example.
Inspired by the ''At what age did you cease to believe in Santa Claus?'' thread...
Do you think it's wrong to tell a person something that is false to make them happy? Even though they will probably find later it is false? I think it's a bad thing, despite it's good intentions but what are your thoughts?

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Oh, and sorry to UG'ers who thought Santa was real


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#2
Yes. I think it's dumb. Why not just say that you buy them stuff if their good.
#4
Let them be children for God's sake.


I think it's fine as long as they aren't like 12 thinking there's a Santa. Kids find out on their own and they get over it but they had a lot of fun while they thought he was real. It's part of childhood.


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#5
When I become a parent I'm telling my kid who bought all the ****ing presents, screw some fictional guy getting the credit.

EDIT: Unless it works conversely and I get my hypothetical child fvck all and blame it on santa...hmm it is a thinker.
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#6
I really wished I had read about the generalisation of the topic rather than just voting souly based on Santa.

No, you shouldn't lie about anything to keep someone happy IMO.
#7
Doesn't do kids any harm... brings a bit of magic and excitement into what otherwise is a pretty dull and depressing world right now.

All the kids in my class still believe in Santa and we have the best fun writing letters to him, and telling stories about him.

It brings joy to children, and the idea should bring joy to some adults too.
#8
The local news outlet here has a "Santa Watch." On Christmas Eve afternoon they start showing "footage" of a horribly animated CGI "Santa" in countries that are already dark (usually in continental Europe for some reason). Then once it gets dark here he's magically like two states away. I dunno why, but that shit bothers me.

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#9
Yes. If you're telling them these things, it will only distort them as rational adults at age three.

Next thing you know they're staring over a dead bloody hooker, knife in hand with no remorse.
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#10
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Only if it's morally wrong to tell people God is real too.


ha, I don't believe in God but I guess the jury's still out on that one.
#11
If they already believe in santa and you tell them, then you're just being a dick.
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#12
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Only if it's morally wrong to tell people God is real too.

Well, yeah. Santa could be considered a form of childhood indoctrination, and that's why i'm against it. The same with religious childhood indoctrination.


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#13
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The local news outlet here has a "Santa Watch." On Christmas Eve afternoon they start showing "footage" of a horribly animated CGI "Santa" in countries that are already dark (usually in continental Europe for some reason). Then once it gets dark here he's magically like two states away. I dunno why, but that shit bothers me.

That is a bit far. People can make him too real.
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#17
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#18
When you're a small child you believe in Santa, you get older and you stop believing in Santa, older still and you become Santa.
#19
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#20
it's ok for little children i think. eventually they will all find out, but Santa is more of a custom than a secret, it's about giving and sharing with the dear ones.

In the same manner, you can't actually say to a little child how he came to the world. Thats the stork story for, isn't it?
#21
I don't think so, it was exciting and fun when I was a kid and when I finally figured it out I was old enough not to be crushed
#22
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Yes. I think it's dumb. Why not just say that you buy them stuff if their good.


^ this. really, why tell kids that there is a magical man that brings them presents, just to tell them that he doesn't exist later? why not just say that Christmas (holiday times) are special, blah, blah, blah and not have to sprinkle in a fake being?

same with everyday life, *cough* god *cough*

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#23
It's not wrong. The spirit of Christmas (aside from religious overtones) is to give and not receive. So tell your kids Santa exists and give them presents, and know that it is Santa who gets the credit and not you. Plus it's a fun part of childhood to believe in Santa.
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#26
My mum used to tell us that Santa was real, but parents had to send him money so he would give kids presents, as an explanation of why Santa would only ever bring us shite stuff. I think that's one of the things that makes he hate christmas so much nowadays.
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#28
yes it is, let them work it out themselves
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#29
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Santa's like Jesus to Children, giving them an incentive to act good and proper around Christmas. The reward is Presents (Heaven), the punishment is no presents (Hell). For some reason, though, people grow out of Santa but not Jesus.

In other words, it's wrong.
#30
It's healthy to have disappointments such as these in your life, I think.

That's one big thing I don't like about modern society; the way people feel the need to eliminate all disappointment from kid's lives. Everyone's so worried about every kid staying happy all the time, that they don't realise that will create an irrational belief in their head that they will always be this happy, and that nothing can go wrong.

Just my two cents.

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#32
Of course it's not wrong, it makes kids happy. You cynics can't even imagine the kind of joy they feel anymore. And telling them he's not real doesn't hurt the kid, you're supposed to tell them when they are mature enough to handle it. If they aren't mature enough, that's a different problem unrelated to santa.
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#33
I love all the people who think they're cool for bashing religion when it isn't even part of the subject. This about Santa, not God.
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#34
It's a better way of making kids happy then touching them in their special place.
#35
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#36
Ah christmas the holiday built on lies. Parents tell their kids about santa. Priests and others tell everyone that its Jesus' birthday when the date was probably chosen to correspond with the Roman winter solstice festival. Why is that ok?
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#37
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Ah christmas the holiday built on lies. Parents tell their kids about santa. Priests and others tell everyone that its Jesus' birthday when the date was probably chosen to correspond with the Roman winter solstice festival. Why is that ok?

Because Christmas is awesome.
#38
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Ah christmas the holiday built on lies. Parents tell their kids about santa. Priests and others tell everyone that its Jesus' birthday when the date was probably chosen to correspond with the Roman winter solstice festival. Why is that ok?

Well we all die so let's just shoot ourselves and get it over with before we languish in old age. You're such a negative Nancy.
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#39
No, it's not wrong. It provides a sense of wonder and excitement for them around the holidays and I know my own childhood would have been poorer without it.
As for lying to them, good. It teaches them that adults will lie to them about stuff. Most kids come to the realisation by themselves.
I'd imagine the internet makes it pretty hard to keep the secret anymore...
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