#1
so there are alot of bands which stand waaay out compared to their counterparts during different times of history.

but what do you think it is which makes an artist memorable of epic proportions?

i think the biggest remembered bands are "pushing the boundaries" at the time, while at the same time having a huge fan base. and those 2 are whats most necessary

i posted this on the nickelback billboard discussion but imo history was:

50s presley-> rebel/girls thought he was hot
60s beatles/stones-> long hair was considered rebellious, beatlemania
70s led zep-> heavier tones then previous
80s hairmetal/thrashmetal/acdc-> alot heavier tone then before
90s grunge-> suicidal depressing music

obviously debatable list^

so what do you think


tl;dr, what makes an artist memorable
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#2
Just the right balance between innovation and mainstream.
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His smile.
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#5
They need to have their own style. Even if it's not mindblowingly original, it should still be "their own". AC/DC aren't exactly pushing any boundaries, but they're still awesome.

Also, the music needs to fit the mood of the generation. Or maybe it's the other way round?
#6
Appearance and tone. I think vocalists stand out the most (Yeah, that's pretty obvious).
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They need to have their own style. Even if it's not mindblowingly original, it should still be "their own". AC/DC aren't exactly pushing any boundaries, but they're still awesome.

Also, the music needs to fit the mood of the generation. Or maybe it's the other way round?
I believe you are thinking of what makes music "popular." That's different than what makes music "memorable" or "timeless." The kind of music you are talking about fades away with time. Stuff like Bach obviously hasn't.
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#10
Being unique. This doesn't really entitle them to be completely original, but they have to have just the right amount of flair to make it so no one else is like them.

I hope that makes sense.
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#11
making sounds noone has done before
being completely original(which is hard to do within the limits of a guitar)

edit: in a way what itchy said
#13
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I believe you are thinking of what makes music "popular." That's different than what makes music "memorable" or "timeless." The kind of music you are talking about fades away with time. Stuff like Bach obviously hasn't.

The reason why Bach, above all others, will stand the test of time is because he was so innovative in western tonal harmony that we are still living well within his exhaustive coverage. So until tonal music as we know it becomes irrelevant, Bach will stay.
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Since when is Grunge labeled depressing? =/


Since always? What would you describe grunge as? happy?
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Since always? What would you describe grunge as? happy?

Anger and depression is hardly the same thing.
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I believe you are thinking of what makes music "popular." That's different than what makes music "memorable" or "timeless." The kind of music you are talking about fades away with time. Stuff like Bach obviously hasn't.

You can be "popular" without being unique.

Besides, the aforementioned musicians have only been known for 50 or so years, as opposed to over 200 years for Bach. Maybe 200 years from now, 20th century artists that are currently highly regarded will be forgotten. But it could equally be the opposite: maybe the imprint they left on modern popular music has been so large that they were a milestone in its history.

Only time will tell.

Plus, there are exceptions to every rule. A lot of artists only become highly regarded after the end of the carrier, or even their lives.

Also, Bach's music was typical of the music of his time. If that period of time is remembered, his music will be associated with it, and hence he will also be remembered. Same applies for 20th century popular music.

Sorry if that was a bit cluttered. I don't know how to explain this concisely.
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well thinkking the big 3 in grunge, nirvana, pearl jam and alice in chains,

alot more of their songs are based on depression rather then anger, actually not many are anger.


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Anger and depression aren't the same thing but grunge isnt angry. I would consider grunge to be more " everything sucks" which leans more towards emotional/depressive.

Also people do cut their wrists when they are angry at people.
#20
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making sounds noone has done before
being completely original(which is hard to do within the limits of a guitar)

edit: in a way what itchy said


Not really, zappa is by far the most original musician in the last 100 years and people will still claim led zep are the greatest most original thing ever
#21
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Also, Bach's music was typical of the music of his time. If that period of time is remembered, his music will be associated with it, and hence he will also be remembered. Same applies for 20th century popular music.

It was accepted, but not typical in the sense that you are thinking of. He was considered outdated for his time and fell into obscurity after his death, remaining only relevant as an academic subject of composition. It was only during the 19th century that he was rediscovered after people started to realize how innovative his music really was.
#22
In my opinion, this can be simplified to a mixture of originiality, musical skill, good songwriting ability and a powerful/memorable image.
#23
Having an untimely death.
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The reason why Bach, above all others, will stand the test of time is because he was so innovative in western tonal harmony that we are still living well within his exhaustive coverage. So until tonal music as we know it becomes irrelevant, Bach will stay.


I totally agree with that. Had such control over counterpoint and melody he will remain as one of the greatest composers.
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I totally agree with that. Had such control over counterpoint and melody he will remain as one of the greatest composers.



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#26
You kinda have to look at what people will like is all I can say. Although people like Iron Maiden (and others) may have created great sounding songs about "the phantom of the opera" etc. AC/DC will be remembered because they wrote songs about ****ing women/rocking out and partying with friends, which is what the average man wants to hear about.
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