#1
Why do people think that their dead artist/musicians are instantly the best when they die?

For example Dime Bag Darell. The moment he died and there after, i do not go one day without hearing or seeing "R.I.P. Dimebag you were the best."

why do people do this? Your ideas pit?
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It's because they were "martyred" or something. I dunno. I think it's silly. Dimebag, John Lennon, Cliff Burton, and all those other guys were pretty meh, but they instantly got glorified after they died.
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It's because they were "martyred" or something. I dunno. I think it's silly. Dimebag, John Lennon, Cliff Burton, and all those other guys were pretty meh, but they instantly got glorified after they died.


You don't think Lennon deserverd the praise he got?

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For example Dime Bag Darell. The moment he died and there after, i do not go one day without hearing or seeing "R.I.P. Dimebag you were the best."

why do people do this? Your ideas pit?


Because you're spending to much time in the metal forums
Seriously though. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Pantera, but I totally understand your point.
Personally, I think it works like the proverbial 'snowball effect'.

Example: One dude who's been a fan of Pantera since day one sits down and is all "RIP dime" because he's a long time fan and the next dude is "Who's Dime" and he goes home and checks out some Pantera. The second dude then recommends it to a mate, and then he's all 'RIP dime' aswell. Plus with all the Dean merchandising in his name, it's all over guitar magazines and what not, beginners will notice it and go 'Oh ima check this dood out'.

It's the same with Hendrix and others, Dime was just a easier example to use here.
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#9
Lennon was ok i guess but you have to respect his music instead of his personality

its like kurt cobain, he was an assh0le drug addict but everyone started to praise him like a god even though he was a dick

all im saying is people are glorifying what they did musically not how they were as a person
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It's because they were "martyred" or something. I dunno. I think it's silly. Dimebag, John Lennon, Cliff Burton, and all those other guys were pretty meh, but they instantly got glorified after they died.


Cliff was not meh. Playing live was when he shined!
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You don't think Lennon deserverd the praise he got?
Of course not. He ended up being the most famous of the Beatles, even though Paul wrote more hit songs and George was more talented and had a better solo career. Simply put, it was because he died an untimely death while in the public eye. Was he good? Sure, but nowhere near the legendary figure people often make him out to be.

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Cliff was not meh. Playing live was when he shined!
You're just saying that because he died tragically.

Also, you like Nickelback, therefore your opinion is invalid.
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Of course not. He ended up being the most famous of the Beatles, even though Paul wrote more hit songs and George was more talented and had a better solo career. Simply put, it was because he died an untimely death while in the public eye. Was he good? Sure, but nowhere near the legendary figure people often make him out to be.



Fair enough, I was just wondering why you thought that.


I personally think dead-celebrity worship is a little over the top as well.
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Of course not. He ended up being the most famous of the Beatles, even though Paul wrote more hit songs and George was more talented and had a better solo career. Simply put, it was because he died an untimely death while in the public eye. Was he good? Sure, but nowhere near the legendary figure people often make him out to be.

You're just saying that because he died tragically.

Also, you like Nickelback, therefore your opinion is invalid.


I'm not saying that cause he died tragically, I'm saying that cause he was a great player. Can't say I'm suprised at the fact you don't know that since you can't even label real bass players on your profile.

Maybe also think people miss them cause they were nice people?
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Because when they die, Dean will make a new signiture guitar every year in their name from then on.
Basically, Dean arranged for the death of Dime to increase sales of Razorbacks.
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It's because they were "martyred" or something. I dunno. I think it's silly. Dimebag, John Lennon, Cliff Burton, and all those other guys were pretty meh, but they instantly got glorified after they died.


Yeah Dimebag was meh........wait....WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT JOHN LENNON!!!
#18
I for one have no respect at all for Dimebag or Lennon.
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#20
I'd have to say Michael Jackson got pretty much glorified as he bit the dust, too.

they cannot write any new music, which means that what's out now is what you get, it's more limited than any other artist who is still alive making music today.

When we know a person is gone, I guess that we just realize that the stuff said person has written isn't that bad after all.
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I for one have no respect at all for Dimebag or Lennon.

Yea, if Dime or John had been worth respecting, they'd have headbutted the bullets back at their assailants and killed them.
#22
Well, people deserve to have their own opinion right? If they think anyone is the best, they do. Simple as that.
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Yea, if Dime or John had been worth respecting, they'd have headbutted the bullets back at their assailants and killed them.

No, they would have made good music. I'm not saying I have no respect for them because of how they died, I don't respect them because they're bad, over-rated musicians.
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In case of Michael Jackson - his death made people get more perspective on his life. Like, he isn't just the crazy black guy who turned white and then had a bunch of scandals - he also did Thriller and Bad... But of course, then it became too much, because media loves cashing in on celebrities' deaths.
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No, they would have made good music. I'm not saying I have no respect for them because of how they died, I don't respect them because they're bad, over-rated musicians.

See, now you just sound bitter.
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In case of Michael Jackson - his death made people get more perspective on his life. Like, he isn't just the crazy black guy who turned white and then had a bunch of scandals - he also did Thriller and Bad... But of course, then it became too much, because media loves cashing in on celebrities' deaths.


I'm shocked they didn't start with the whole "scandels" thing when jacko died. Damn confusing media
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See, now you just sound bitter.

I sound bitter because I dislike musicians that you like? Not sure I see your logic there.
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I sound bitter because I dislike musicians that you like? Not sure I see your logic there.

No, you sound bitter because of the "I have no respect for them because they're bad and overrated" thing.
I can take or leave Dime, and I've never really liked the Beatles. But the two of them made a lot of people happy with the music they made, and that is something which, IMO, is more deserving of respect than 'musicianship'.
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It's because they were "martyred" or something. I dunno. I think it's silly. Dimebag, John Lennon, Cliff Burton, and all those other guys were pretty meh, but they instantly got glorified after they died.


WHY THE FUCK IS JIMI HENDRIX NOT ON YOUR LIST?!?!?!
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Just because you don't like some one, doesn't make them a "bad" musician.


Exactly what I was going to say.

Also Over-rated =/= bad.
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#32
Martyrdom. its been a part of society since always.
But a the people still deserve the respect they get, and I think people just hear of people through news of deaths and grow to like them, especially the younger generation. I was 4 when Kurt Cobain died, and I didnt discover Nirvana til I was around 8 or 9. But I still have respect for the guy as if he were still here. Same with Dime, and I only got into Pantera about 2 years before he died.
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It's because they were "martyred" or something. I dunno. I think it's silly. Dimebag, John Lennon, Cliff Burton, and all those other guys were pretty meh, but they instantly got glorified after they died.



Dimebag, John Lennon and Cliff Burton were meh?

what a douche....
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Dimebag, John Lennon and Cliff Burton were meh?

what a douche....


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#35
Most of the people mentioned here were already pretty famous before they died. Better examples would be Jeff Buckley or Nick Drake.
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