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I have a therory and i don't know if anyone else has noticed this but most of the greatest most respected bands have the very talented bass players.

Of course the fact that they have great guitarists and singer/songwriters matters alot but i just think perhaps bass is quite important to.

led zepplin,the beatles,rhcp,qotsa,kyuss.budgie,black sabbath,hendrix experience,arctic monkeys,stone roses, the smiths, metallica, cream, rolling stones and pprobs so many others i forgot so pit.. what do you think of my therory??
#2
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I have a therory and i don't know if anyone else has noticed this but most of the greatest most respected bands have the very talented bass players.

Of course the fact that they have great guitarists and singer/songwriters matters alot but i just think perhaps bass is quite important to.

led zepplin,the beatles,rhcp,qotsa,kyuss.budgie,black sabbath,hendrix experience,arctic monkeys,stone roses, the smiths, metallica, cream, rolling stones and pprobs so many others i forgot so pit.. what do you think of my therory??


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#4
The three f's of bass...

1. Funky
2. Fat
3. Fresh

hmm?
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#6
Kind of a crap theory.

There's no real correlation between good bass player and successful band.

There are just as many succesful groups with average or less-than average bassists on top of which there are also just as many, if not more, bands who have talented bassists that aren't successful.

On top of which, you've lumped led zepplin, kyuss, and arctic moneys together (plus others)? You need to narrow what you mean by "great" or "most influential"

Until then, theory is no

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AC/DC, megadeth, every pop band, there are a million that have terrible bassists man,.


what do you mean Megadeth has a terrible bassist? Are you out of your head? Dave Ellefson? James Lomenzo? They are phenomenal, my friend. AC/DC on the other hand...
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#8
Well if you go into Deathcore and such, All Shall Perish and As Blood Runs Black have talented bass players, while most of the bassists for bands like that play the roots...and the roots only.
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#9
Rancid is a band where the bass player's mad skillz exceed everyone elses.

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#10
ok, the arctic monkeys are no where near zepplin il admit that but i said the greatest not the most mainstrem or popular i meant the kind of bands you always see on the greatest bands/albums also forgot the strokes, and i think theres quite a few others.
#11
but QOTSA's bass sucks...
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but QOTSA's bass sucks...

Nick Oliveri was pretty awesome, running around naked.
#14
i do tend to believe bands who are better musically often times have a damn good bass player (or rhythm section in general). this is certainly true of jazz, but i believe it goes to all music.

and just because someone only plays root notes doesn't make them a bad bass player. you guys are all guitarists with ego issues and you feel like good is tantamount to technical and busy. a good bass player:

1) locks with the drummer in the pocket
2) plays the line that makes that song what it is. sometimes that's just roots.

bass isn't a lead instrument primarily. it's there for support. don't apply your guitar standards to bass. doing that is the reason everyone loves billy sheehan and victor wooten instead of revering james jamerson and bruce thomas.
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i do tend to believe bands who are better musically often times have a damn good bass player (or rhythm section in general). this is certainly true of jazz, but i believe it goes to all music.

and just because someone only plays root notes doesn't make them a bad bass player. you guys are all guitarists with ego issues and you feel like good is tantamount to technical and busy. a good bass player:

1) locks with the drummer in the pocket
2) plays the line that makes that song what it is. sometimes that's just roots.

bass isn't a lead instrument primarily. it's there for support. don't apply your guitar standards to bass. doing that is the reason everyone loves billy sheehan and victor wooten instead of revering james jamerson and bruce thomas.


*checks out username

thats some bass right thar
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#17
led zepplin,the beatles,rhcp,qotsa,kyuss.budgie,black sabbath,hendrix experience,arctic monkeys,stone roses, the smiths, metallica, cream, rolling stones

Alot of those bands also have pretty good guitarists.......... and drummers and very iconic singers aswell
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AC/DC, megadeth, every pop band, there are a million that have terrible bassists man,.


Simple =/= Terrible. Cliff Williams doesn't play much fancy stuff, but in no way does that make him a bad bass player.
#19
Loads of bands I like have either no bass player or a very average one. There are also bands who have outstanding bass that I love aswell. I love these 2 different types of bands in different ways. I dont like bass bands better than non/crap-bass bands or vice versa...
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bass isn't a lead instrument primarily. it's there for support. don't apply your guitar standards to bass. doing that is the reason everyone loves billy sheehan and victor wooten instead of revering james jamerson and bruce thomas.

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#21
Dan Briggs of BTBAM is a phenomenal bass player, and I kinda get your theory, but there are many bands that contradict it as well.

And as said above, simple bass =/= bad bass.
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#22
yeahh i know i'm not a bass player by the way but i think the founding fathers of rock(blues,jazz) had very strong bass notes not just covered by guitars and most of the ''greatest'' bands stick to this tradition of having strong bass lines and kings of leon used to be pretty good now there shit.
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then it's good i didn't mention paul chambers and ray brown.
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i do tend to believe bands who are better musically often times have a damn good bass player (or rhythm section in general). this is certainly true of jazz, but i believe it goes to all music.

and just because someone only plays root notes doesn't make them a bad bass player. you guys are all guitarists with ego issues and you feel like good is tantamount to technical and busy. a good bass player:

1) locks with the drummer in the pocket
2) plays the line that makes that song what it is. sometimes that's just roots.

bass isn't a lead instrument primarily. it's there for support. don't apply your guitar standards to bass. doing that is the reason everyone loves billy sheehan and victor wooten instead of revering james jamerson and bruce thomas.
I agree 100%

But the irony with your username is funny.
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I agree 100%

But the irony with your username is funny.

yeeeeah, i noticed that after i posted.
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Typical mainstream hater. Jared is a fantastic bass player, actually, check out Slow Night So Long or McFearless, or any older KOL song.

And I'm not so sure this is a solid theory, only about half of my favourite bands have what anyone would consider "talented" bass players.
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led zepplin,the beatles,rhcp,qotsa,kyuss.budgie,black sabbath,hendrix experience,arctic monkeys,stone roses, the smiths, metallica, cream, rolling stones and pprobs so many others i forgot so pit.. what do you think of my therory??

The fact that Rush isn't in there makes me want to stab your face off.
#28
ahhh im not into much prog tbh but another point for my case, also i think my therory stands really well when theres only one guitarist to.
#29
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I was thinking the same thing. The artic monkees dont belong in that group. A lot of the bands you mentioned are famous because they wrote Radio friendly. There are plenty of famous bands with crap bassist and plenty of obscure bands with amazing bassist.
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i do tend to believe bands who are better musically often times have a damn good bass player (or rhythm section in general). this is certainly true of jazz, but i believe it goes to all music.

and just because someone only plays root notes doesn't make them a bad bass player. you guys are all guitarists with ego issues and you feel like good is tantamount to technical and busy. a good bass player:

1) locks with the drummer in the pocket
2) plays the line that makes that song what it is. sometimes that's just roots.

bass isn't a lead instrument primarily. it's there for support. don't apply your guitar standards to bass. doing that is the reason everyone loves billy sheehan and victor wooten instead of revering james jamerson and bruce thomas.


This whole thing made a lot of sense. And I absolutely love Jamerson, but then again I am a bass player so that kinda makes sense really.
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Quote by primusfan
i do tend to believe bands who are better musically often times have a damn good bass player (or rhythm section in general). this is certainly true of jazz, but i believe it goes to all music.

and just because someone only plays root notes doesn't make them a bad bass player. you guys are all guitarists with ego issues and you feel like good is tantamount to technical and busy. a good bass player:

1) locks with the drummer in the pocket
2) plays the line that makes that song what it is. sometimes that's just roots.

bass isn't a lead instrument primarily. it's there for support. don't apply your guitar standards to bass. doing that is the reason everyone loves billy sheehan and victor wooten instead of revering james jamerson and bruce thomas.

^This is the truth.

As much as I like Billy Sheehan, it's a lot better to play with a bassist who can do the support part well and the wanky not as well rather than the opposite of that (IE I prefer Jason Newsted's playing to Cliff Burton's, as good as Cliff was he wasn't really that great of a support player IMHO - I mean, he wasn't bad but he often played bass more like a lead guitar).
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AC/DC, megadeth, every pop band, there are a million that have terrible bassists man,.



how in the world is James Lomenzo a "terrible" bassist?
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#37
>Bass very important.



´Nuff said.


Bass is a very crucial musical instrument in a band.

Solo, maybe not so much.
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#38
Lol good bassists are all around man. But bass players don't often show all their skills. They just play what fits the song y'know (as Bootsy would say).
But alot of bands have uninteresting bass lines I'll admit. (qotsa, but the only interesting about qotsa is the lead guitar and perhaps the iconic voice. Still they are a terrific band as a whole)
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#39
obviously you havent heard of the Sex Pistols.

Sid Vicious sucked so bad at bass it started to become disgraceful rather than funny but look how popular they were/are.
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Of course the fact that they have great guitarists and singer/songwriters matters alot but i just think perhaps bass is quite important to.



bassists can write songs too..

but i agree, behind a great band is a solid rythm section
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