#1
i listen to music and there is no way in HELL i could ever figure anything out by listening to it.
that's just me
even if i have a guitar IN MY HAND AND PLUGGED IN
i can't "hear" wtf is going on, on the record

i guess i've "played" guitar for quite a while, but never really took it to the next level.
i've un-learned more songs than i can even remember
i've actually recorded double guitar tracks once a LONG time ago, and i heard it used in a movie i saw once.
it was very "unique" compositions. i still have the master on cassette

back to my original point. i'm trying to learn Good Times, Bad Times by zepellin and i have to use tabs.
is it ok to learn songs by reading tabs, and putting it to the music?
#4
Quote by sfischer61uz
yes its ok. practice makes perfect


Actually, perfect practice makes perfect.
It's a muscle memory thing..........it has to do with how you learn any physical skill. You can hard wire mistakes if you don't practice properly.
#5
Quote by sethp
i listen to music and there is no way in HELL i could ever figure anything out by listening to it.
that's just me
even if i have a guitar IN MY HAND AND PLUGGED IN
i can't "hear" wtf is going on, on the record

i guess i've "played" guitar for quite a while, but never really took it to the next level.
i've un-learned more songs than i can even remember
i've actually recorded double guitar tracks once a LONG time ago, and i heard it used in a movie i saw once.
it was very "unique" compositions. i still have the master on cassette

back to my original point. i'm trying to learn Good Times, Bad Times by zepellin and i have to use tabs.
is it ok to learn songs by reading tabs, and putting it to the music?


Do it however you want. There are no rules. I don't use tabs or anyone elses lessons, and pretty much can figure what I want to by ear (except for my perfectionistic determination to transcribe Lee Ritenour's harmonized Strawberry Letter 23 solo (both parts), for instance, sometimes things do throw my ear for a bit). It came as a byproduct of learning to transcribe. I didn't try to develop it, it just happened all its own. I find, though that the less I use that skill, the worse it gets (rusty)!
#6
if i want to learn how to play a song, i'll listen to it and try and transcribe it myself using my ear. If I find that I'm unable to do it this way, I'll search youtube for someone who's covering the song that has a 5 star rating and I'll look at where their fingers are on the neck. If I STILL can't figure it out by now I consult internet TABS. If I'm still having difficulty, I'll youtube a 'how-to' tutorial. If one doesn't exist, then I put the song off for a few months until my ear develops further. Then I recommence at square 1
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#7
Quote by Afterhours
Actually, perfect practice makes perfect.
It's a muscle memory thing..........it has to do with how you learn any physical skill. You can hard wire mistakes if you don't practice properly.


no doubt. i know this very well.
thanks
#8
Quote by SeeEmilyPlay
Have you watched any videos on how to play the songs?


yes, i have some vids from youtube as well as tabs.

i'm trying to learn Good Times Bad Times and i can get the chording down, and the main riff from reading the tabs and watching the video lessons.

the problem comes when i try to hit the solo
i can get all the notes,
but the damn phrasing is confounding me. i cant get the freakin' phrasing to save my life
#9
Quote by sethp
yes, i have some vids from youtube as well as tabs.

i'm trying to learn Good Times Bad Times and i can get the chording down, and the main riff from reading the tabs and watching the video lessons.

the problem comes when i try to hit the solo
i can get all the notes,
but the damn phrasing is confounding me. i cant get the freakin' phrasing to save my life


As I recall the beginning solo is in sequential triplets in 16ths - if you know how to play triplets, and scale sequences, I believe its just a minor pent descending in 3's? I haven't heard that song in years, so I could be off with my memory.

One other way of phrasing is to sing along with it "scat style" to get a feel how the beat falls and what notes receive accents...then slow it down groove wise and feel the internal beat at a slower speed.
#10
Quote by Sean0913
As I recall the beginning solo is in sequential triplets in 16ths - if you know how to play triplets, and scale sequences, I believe its just a minor pent descending in 3's? I haven't heard that song in years, so I could be off with my memory.

One other way of phrasing is to sing along with it "scat style" to get a feel how the beat falls and what notes receive accents...then slow it down groove wise and feel the internal beat at a slower speed.


this video lesson doesn't have the solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzFYNBl2K9E

this one isn't really a lesson, but he does a damn good job at showing what's going on... but i can't figure out what the hell is going on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzFYNBl2K9E

i even have the tabs open at the same time

i can download these vids to my hard drive. is there a way to slow down the video and keep the original pitch? i'd really like to slow down this video
Last edited by sethp at Dec 19, 2009,