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#1
Searchbarred well for this and i'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned before, even in the politics or gay thread.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/29/uganda-death-sentence-gay-sex
(forget that it was 20ish days ago)

This is horrible, I don't care if it's public opinion that gays should be killed. It's proposal that, if passed, will ensure Ugandan society will never progress beyond bigroty and homosexual witchhunts.
This is pretty serious stuff at the moment, and a lot of Africa already has anti-homosexual laws.
To give this thread a topic, what is your opinion on public opinion? And whether it should be stopped if it can stoop to this level? Would that violate democracy or is democracy all social groups living without fear of prosecution?
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Edit: This includes bi-sexuals as well


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#2
they shouldn't be gay then
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#5
This is just downright ridiculous.

"We are talking about anal sex. Not even animals do that,"

Excuse me, humans do it all the time. Straight or gay.
#7
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#8
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This is just downright ridiculous.


Excuse me, humans do it all the time. Straight or gay.


The fools should take a look on google sometimes .... they'd be surprised.
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#9
If no one steps in with all the other things that go on in those shithole countries, I'd doubt they'd step in to try and stop this.
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This is just downright ridiculous.


Excuse me, humans do it all the time. Straight or gay.

dont forget there have been gay penguins and dolphins
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I think I don't live there and it's none of my business. Same for you. Live your life the way you want to, that's their country and if the people want out they'll find a way. They live there for a reason.
They were born there?



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#12
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If no one steps in with all the other things that go on in those shithole countries, I'd doubt they'd step in to try and stop this.


Yeah, to be honest if Jacob Zuma is allowed to ru(i)n a country ....
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#13
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Hope this is a joke


No joke, if he really feels that strongly about it, then he should go there, become a politician and help to do something about it. I'm obviously wording this all rather badly, because I'm tired and haven't slept much, but we should worry about fixing up our own countries before we start judging everyone else's right? Look at america always having shit talked about for poking it's nose where it shouldn't have been.

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They were born there?

Then they probably don't know they are gay, by the time they find out they will soon enough be able to leave, or like I mentioned, to do something to help fix it.
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#14
That's terrible!
I'll have to ask my flatmate about all this, her family are british expats in Uganda and she returned there for christmas earlier in the week.
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#15
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No joke, if he really feels that strongly about it, then he should go there, become a politician and help to do something about it. I'm obviously saying something stupid, because I'm retarded and ignorant, but we should worry about fixing up our own countries before we start judging everyone else's right? Look at america always having shit talked about for poking it's nose where it shouldn't have been.


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#16
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I think I don't live there and it's none of my business. Same for you. Live your life the way you want to, that's their country and if the people want out they'll find a way. They live there for a reason.

Fuck that. If you honestly think that then you are one of the most laziest people I could imagine. People who have done no harm to absolutely anyone are going to be killed because of their own disposition?

If here in the UK we decided 'actually we're going to murder anyone who's Arab' you'd be in utter outrage. You wouldn't just say 'well that's none of my business' because you know it's not only totally wrong but completely unjustifiable.

Fuck borders. This is my world, my race, and my opinion is just as bloody valid regardless of where I am on the map.
#17
The gays should kill Bill.

That'd show him.
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#18
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No joke, if he really feels that strongly about it, then he should go there, become a politician and help to do something about it. I'm obviously wording this all rather badly, because I'm tired and haven't slept much, but we should worry about fixing up our own countries before we start judging everyone else's right? Look at america always having shit talked about for poking it's nose where it shouldn't have been.


Then they probably don't know they are gay, by the time they find out they will soon enough be able to leave, or like I mentioned, to do something to help fix it.

Yeah... have you been to africa lately? People are kind of poor, and it's not exactly easy to leave a country just like that.

Plus this is clearly a breach of human rights and downright idiotic.
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#19
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The gays should kill Bill.

That'd show him.


I think Uma Thurman already did ...

and it doesn't seem to have stopped him.
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#20
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The gays should kill Bill.

That'd show him.

You stole my joke. I was gonna say something like
Kill, Bill!
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#21
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Fuck that. If you honestly think that then you are one of the most laziest people I could imagine. People who have done no harm to absolutely anyone are going to be killed because of their own disposition?

If here in the UK we decided 'actually we're going to murder anyone who's Arab' you'd be in utter outrage. You wouldn't just say 'well that's none of my business'. Fuck borders. This is my world, my race, and my opinion is just as bloody valid regardless of where I am on the map.


No I agree they shouldn't be killed, and I agree with most of what you say. I don't agree with borders, but they are there now and we should focus on making our own countries better before we start helping others should we not? You can't lend money to people if you don't have enough to live on yourself.
#22
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Then they probably don't know they are gay, by the time they find out they will soon enough be able to leave, or like I mentioned, to do something to help fix it.
Some know before they are 10. I'd hardly call that old enough do something about it.

I also agree with what Craigo said.



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#23
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No I agree they shouldn't be killed, and I agree with most of what you say. I don't agree with borders, but they are there now and we should focus on making our own countries better before we start helping others should we not? You can't lend money to people if you don't have enough to live on yourself.

That's not what my post was about at all. I didn't call for action, I called to be able to have a bloody opinion on it.

Innocent people are dying needlessly. It is my business.
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#24
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No I agree they shouldn't be killed, and I agree with most of what you say. I don't agree with borders, but they are there now and we should focus on making our own countries better before we start helping others should we not? You can't lend money to people if you don't have enough to live on yourself.


So what you're saying is genocide is all a matter of timing?
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#25
Interesting. I was about to reward radical Islam for another African coup. But it appears the it is the result of radical Christianity. Disgusting either way.
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Then they probably don't know they are gay, by the time they find out they will soon enough be able to leave, or like I mentioned, to do something to help fix it.

I really hope you can finally stop believing the whole 'God doesn't like gay sex' stuff someday. It's pretty dangerous stuff.
#27
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I think I don't live there and it's none of my business. Same for you. Live your life the way you want to, that's their country and if the people want out they'll find a way. They live there for a reason.
Why do conservatives consistently say stupid shit like this?
#28
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That's not what my post was about at all. I didn't call for action, I called to be able to have a bloody opinion on it.

Innocent people are dying needlessly. It is my business.


Alright, I'm not saying you can't voice an opinion man
I just voiced mine at TS, he is outraged, but why doesn't he voice the same outrage at other injustices happening in his own country first? Many big countries are in the shitter, it isn't exactly the time to be focusing on helping other people, we need to rebuild ourselves. That's my opinion, and I have the right to voice it.
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#31
I also thought this thread was about a man named bill that was gonna kill gays in Uganda.
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#32
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Alright, I'm not saying you can't voice an opinion man
I just voiced mine at TS, he is outraged, but why doesn't he voice the same outrage at other injustices happening in his own country first? Many big countries are in the shitter, it isn't exactly the time to be focusing on helping other people, we need to rebuild ourselves. That's my opinion, and I have the right to voice it.

I'm outraged at bloody loads of things. When I express a foreign problem I don't need to before hand list everything I dislike about my own country first.

Not only that, you can read your own country's news and care for other foreign affairs, too.
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#34
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I really hope you can finally stop believing the whole 'God doesn't like gay sex' stuff someday. It's pretty dangerous stuff.


>.< What's that got to do with it?

Ah **** it I'm just gonna get bukkake'd with more of this, I'm out guys.
#35
Interesting choice of words.

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I really hope you can finally stop believing the whole 'God doesn't like gay sex' stuff someday. It's pretty dangerous stuff.

I already tried to convince him.

And TS, this was in the Gay Thread a week or two ago.
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I'm conservative. I don't say stupid shit like that. Change your question to "Why do stupid people consistenly say stupid shit like that"
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#37
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Alright, I'm not saying you can't voice an opinion man
I just voiced mine at TS, he is outraged, but why doesn't he voice the same outrage at other injustices happening in his own country first? Many big countries are in the shitter, it isn't exactly the time to be focusing on helping other people, we need to rebuild ourselves. That's my opinion, and I have the right to voice it.

First of all it's entirely possible to do both, second of all what's a new thing going on in america right now that beats gay people being killed for being gay? It's kind of an important issue to adress.
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#38
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Interesting. I was about to reward radical Islam for another African coup. But it appears the it is the result of radical Christianity. Disgusting either way.


I'd say pseudo-radical Christianity. I doubt any Christian would do this.


This law is gay.
#39
I don't know much about the area but what is the chance something like this would pass? I mean without any outside interference.
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#40
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Fuck borders. This is my world, my race, and my opinion is just as bloody valid regardless of where I am on the map.

Well, since it's your world, your race, don't stand for such an injustice. Get on a plane and go over there to actually make a difference in the lives of the people who's plight you're waving around on the forum here.
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