#1
I love my Marshall, but it's cleans are slightly lacking.

I was considering the Roland Jazz Chorus big time. About 800USD or so used.

I would be using this as an A/B set up with my Marshall. My budget is unlimited, because this is some what hypothetical.

If you could find a great amp in a head format in conjunction with a good cab, that would be good too.
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#2
I believe there is a head version of the Jazz Chorus, don't quote me on it but I believe its 50 watts. Otherwise what about a Fender Twin/Deluxe/Super Reverb?
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#3
Definitely a Jazz Chorus if you're going for pristine, sterile cleans. If you want more warmth/body to your cleans, look elsewhere.
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#5
Perhaps a vox ac30, or maybe a Fender hot rod deluxe.
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#6
Fender Bassman (well, pretty much any Fender, really)
On the cheap side: ZT Lunchbox (with an OD or something in front to warm it up; it sounds kinda sterile otherwise)
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#7
if you want an insanely good clean Solid State is the way to go, like a flextone from line 6 or a roland jazz chorus
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if you want an insanely good clean Solid State is the way to go, like a flextone from line 6 or a roland jazz chorus

My thinking indeed.
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#9
The Jazz Chorus is great, but perhaps look into a Fender Super Reverb, SF Fenders, or Sunn amps.
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#10
Silverface Bassman... I just built an A/B and A/Bing the Bassman with the VJ I just had modded has made me realize how incredible the Bassman's cleans are. Not your typical Fender, but they are godly for sure.
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#11
There are really only 2 ways to go here.

Roland JC-120 for the sterile jazz sound that will sound awesome with pedals or a Fender Twin for a more blusey tube warmth with the possibility for tube drive.

BTW All the JCs I've seen used have been more around the $400 range
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#12
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There are really only 2 ways to go here.

Roland JC-120 for the sterile jazz sound that will sound awesome with pedals or a Fender Twin for a more blusey tube warmth with the possibility for tube drive.

BTW All the JCs I've seen used have been more around the $400 range

Do you use sterile in a bad way?
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#13
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Do you use sterile in a bad way?


The good way. As in, it won't break up no matter what you do. Plus, it makes a great pedal-platform
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#14
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The good way. As in, it won't break up no matter what you do. Plus, it makes a great pedal-platform

Ah. I always associated the term "sterile" to "thin sounding" or "ball-less"

And yeah, I've heard it's a great pedal platform. Good for dicking around with stuff and it can be used as a keyboard amp.
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#15
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I love my Marshall, but it's cleans are slightly lacking.

I was considering the Roland Jazz Chorus big time. About 800USD or so used.

I would be using this as an A/B set up with my Marshall. My budget is unlimited, because this is some what hypothetical.

If you could find a great amp in a head format in conjunction with a good cab, that would be good too.



for clean only, have a look at the following:

Fender:
Twin Reverb: massive amounts of head room, crystal clear beautiful clean tone
Super Twin: basically the above, except with a scary amount of headroom
Deluxe Reverb: same as twin reverb, but half the volume with 1 speaker
silver face fenders imo have the nicest "sterile" cleans around (sterile in this case means there is not a hint of breakup in the tone, it is pure, ice pick sharp clean)

Vox:
AC30 Handwired: IMO the greatest clean amp ever built. Its tone is very organic and very airy. It makes a "vowel' kind of sound if you get what im saying

Dr Z:
Maz 18 Jr.: very fender like, sounds a lot like a smaller bassman. very dynamic and pick sensitive... VERY expensive.

Victoria amps:
any and all: they are based on Vintage fenders and are pretty much exact clones down to the finest details... VERY expensive
#16
Quote by lbj273
I believe there is a head version of the Jazz Chorus, don't quote me on it but I believe its 50 watts. Otherwise what about a Fender Twin/Deluxe/Super Reverb?


Deluxe or Super probably wouødm't be wanted for breakup free cleans. But, that depends on your Gigs, I guess.
I'd go for a Twin. I haven't heard a SS amp that can take it on. Other than the Jazz Chorus.
#17
I'd honestly say that JC+Pedals is the way to go if you don't mind pedals. You can really hear your guitar and the pedal with a JC if you ever need a distortion. In some ways, it's the ultimate amp; it amplifies without distorting, period. It DOES have a distortion channel, just not a good one. It's real distortion channel is whatever pedal you feel like putting onto it
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#18
Quote by Weeping_Demon7
I love my Marshall, but it's cleans are slightly lacking.

I was considering the Roland Jazz Chorus big time. About 800USD or so used.

I would be using this as an A/B set up with my Marshall. My budget is unlimited, because this is some what hypothetical.

If you could find a great amp in a head format in conjunction with a good cab, that would be good too.

I'm looking at an '82 2203 to A/B with a head switcher for cleans and leave the 2204 for overdrive since it's smoother/better (IMO).

It's been problem with the switching 800s that the clean channel isn't the greatest. I blame the lack of EQ options.
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#19
if you want nice warm cleans go for a fender

if you want sterile, go for a SS amp.
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#20
A few weeks ago I saw Mono perform with a few other post rock bands with the opening acts using JCs and Mono using Super Twins and let me tell you, their sound was incredible! Absolutely miles above the JCs in my books, the lushest clean sounds I have ever heard. Even my non-guitar playing friend thought the cleans sounded amazing. Whilst JC was definitely clean, I did think it was a bit too thin sounding. The ST really had that extra warmth and lushness to it.

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#21
I just picked up a Roland JC-120 head today. It's 120 watts. And is wonderful. Got a good deal on it i traded my Fender MIM Jbass for it.
I wouldnt EVER trade this amp.
Try and find an old used one.

Im gonna put a NAD and NCD up tomorrow. Just got a Marshall 1960AV with V30s in it. But this is off topic.

Don't give up on finding a decent used roland.