#1
Never tried an OCD, but someone offered to trade me one straight across for my OD-808.

I love my OD-808, but I've heard the OCDs are awesome, so what are the main differences here? I'll mainly be using it as a boost to tighten up my amps, but I was playing with a bunch of my pedals last night and actually found that the 808 is pretty cool as a "distortion" pedal and I could get a pretty cool dirty blues out of it, but I'm thinking the OCD might be able to do better at that?

Thoughts? Opinions? Etc.
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#2
I'm not a huge fan of the 808, but I absolutely hated the OCD. It sounded really processed and flat to me.
It will certainly tighten up your amp, but if you like the 808, stick with it.
#3
As somebody who owned both:

The 808 is Tubescreamery (obviously).
The OCD is Marshally.
The OCD has about 2x the gain of the 808.

I've never been able to coax anything remotely bluesy out of the OCD, even at very low Gain settings. It just wants to take off and crunch. Maybe I'm just hopeless at dialing it in, but that's my experience with it.

I'm actually trying to trade Rutch mine for a TS9 to mod to original 808 specs.
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#4
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I'm actually trying to trade Rutch mine for a TS9 to mod to original 808 specs.

Dang I just sold a TS-9 on Saturday. I wouldve traded you plus cash :'(

The OCD really has that much gain? I had the gain and volume maxed on the 808 last night and it had jut as much gain as my Marshall Guv'nor with the gain at max, just more smooth. If the OCD has twice that... It should be able to do modern metal by itself.
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#5
I'll give you a clip of the JCM on the Low input with the OCD maxed on 18V power. Gimme a minute.

****, I uninstalled Audacity. Make it 10 minutes.

Just about done. I accidentally effed up the file after it was done so I had to rerecord it.
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#6
I'm not sure how tight an OCD will make your sound. It adds some boominess and is really more of an amp in a box kind of overdrive pedal than something that you really use to boost. at least that has been my own impression of it.
#7
I owned an OD808 and have the Dano Drive pedal (I have played the OCD) so while not the best comparison I do have experience with both pedals. I thought the OD808 was worthless as a boost, not very much volume and it colored the tone in a bad way. That said I did love it on the clean channel, it really nailed the SRV hot blues tones. The OCD is a completely different monster, it can do low gain bluesy stuff but you do need to back off the volume knob as to get it. It can work as a boost, but imo thats not using it to its full capabilities. I think it sounds awesome on its own or stacked with a clean boost pedal.
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#8
The OCD is more of a stand alone overdrive, the 808 would be a better choice for tightening, why not just try both and compare and see what you like.
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Clips shortly. All may laugh at my shitty playing. Hooray!

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#10
This has pretty much been covered but...

In my opinion the OD808 is best used as a boost where as the OCD is more of a standalone drive. Im not a huge fan of the OD808s drive but as a boost its superb. The OCDs drive on the other hand is excellent.
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#11
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The OCD is more of a stand alone overdrive, the 808 would be a better choice for tightening, why not just try both and compare and see what you like.

No one carries the OCD around here, I'd be trading with a guy in another state

Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll be sticking with the OD-808, but I might pick up an OCD as my "distortion" instead of using my Marshall pedal cause it's super noisy
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#12
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/bubb_tubbs/music/all/play754581 for clips

Most of those songs I've never played before or didn't bother properly learning. This was kind of a spur-of-the-moment thing but I hope my ham-fisted attempt worked out decently.

These were played through the JCM 800 through the Low input with the strat tuned to Eb. Alnico IIs would have been awful for demonstrating most of the songs on here so the Gibson sat this one out, but as a result the noise from the single coils caused a lot of recording problems.

Nothing a good ROCK BAND MIC can't fix though!
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Most of those songs I've never played before or didn't bother properly learning. This was kind of a spur-of-the-moment thing but I hope my ham-fisted attempt worked out decently.

These were played through the JCM 800 through the Low input with the strat tuned to Eb. Alnico IIs would have been awful for demonstrating most of the songs on here so the Gibson sat this one out, but as a result the noise from the single coils caused a lot of recording problems.

Nothing a good ROCK BAND MIC can't fix though!

Man that actually sounds pretty sweet. Definitely would be a great replacement for my Guv'nor, think the 808 does the boosting a bit better though. We'll see how cheap I can find one now
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#15
The 808 has the typical mid hump and sucks out some of the bass from your tone. Also typical with TS's and the SD-1. Great for boosting, not that great for a pushed OD/blues setting.

The OCD is thicker sounding with more gain in reserve. It is also warmer sounding and works well as a stand alone overdrive & distortion pedal. With the gain maxed a convincing pushed Marshall tone can be had. It works great as a boost as well, adding some hair and a bit of color to your tone.
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GC's carry the OCD
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#17
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GC's carry the OCD

Not mine

They have the Fulldrive, but I asked them one time and they said the OCD is special order only.
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#18
^ That's interesting since Long and McQuade carry all Fulltone, Voodoo Labs and a few Empress pedals.

At least, the Toronto ones do.

If you can locate an old 80s SD-1 or any TS9/OD9 I'd be willing to trade you plus some cash (depending on which pedal). I've read the 808s are all board-mounted pots and jacks now, which really doesn't appeal to me.
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#19
Went to GC today to try out the Line 6 M13 again... It seems they do carry the OCD now, so I tried it out.

I actually really liked the low gain, but the higher I turned up the gain, the muddier it got It worked well as a boost as well, I actually really liked i there. But as far as it having twice the gain of my OD-808, I actually though my 808 had more gain. Weird.

I'll have to check one out another time, it may have been the PRS I was using that made it sound muddy... which really doesn't make sense to me cause it sounded great when it was just boosted on a 6505+ head. I dunno, I was kinda confused
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#20
I've tried both the Maxon OD-808 and OCD through my Laney...and I echo most of what bubbs said.

OCD, to me, had a lot more gain than the 808. The 808 worked better as a boost for me...but if I had the choice I would get the OCD since I'd rather have a totally new voicing on my clean channel than a small boost.
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Went to GC today to try out the Line 6 M13 again... It seems they do carry the OCD now, so I tried it out.

I actually really liked the low gain, but the higher I turned up the gain, the muddier it got It worked well as a boost as well, I actually really liked i there. But as far as it having twice the gain of my OD-808, I actually though my 808 had more gain. Weird.

I'll have to check one out another time, it may have been the PRS I was using that made it sound muddy... which really doesn't make sense to me cause it sounded great when it was just boosted on a 6505+ head. I dunno, I was kinda confused


Ja, zat muddiness is typical on the 9v mode or with batteries.

Try zee OCD in the 18v mode, it sounds like a whole different pedal then. It sound more open, chimmier, sparkling and doesn't have that muddy sound.
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Ja, zat muddiness is typical on the 9v mode or with batteries.

Try zee OCD in the 18v mode, it sounds like a whole different pedal then. It sound more open, chimmier, sparkling and doesn't have that muddy sound.

Interesting, they were running it on batteries, I didn't even know it could run 18v

I tried the OD-808 through my 6505+ today. I actually like the amp better without it. The OCD at GC sounded better as a boost, but I was playing it through the 6505 cab, so I dunno if maybe it's just my Recto cab that is making it sound funny. I have the tone on 0 on the 808 and it still makes the amp super bright

The 808 sounds gorgeous through my Duncan combo though. I don't get it. It also has A LOT more gain through the Duncan. So confused.
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#23
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Ja, zat muddiness is typical on the 9v mode or with batteries.

Try zee OCD in the 18v mode, it sounds like a whole different pedal then. It sound more open, chimmier, sparkling and doesn't have that muddy sound.

Yeah, my demo was done with 18V.
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#24
I always found my OCD V4 to be particularly useless as a boost. Keep in mind that I was comparing it to a Bad Monkey.
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#25
Hey MC i just picked up a OD808 today. My take is its a much better boot pedal imo. The OCD is a nice texture and gain beast. but the od808 does a much better job of not "coloring" my tone. and i have no idea how you got your od808 to have more gain than the OCD.... The OCD does wonders for the rh2 channel on the mark IV
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#26
Yeah, the OCD does colour your tone quite a bit. It's not exactly something I'd just for a clean boost. That said I've always preferred my pedals to add something to my tone. I realised it does get bright easily.

Try it in 18V again. Even if you don't like it, the sound difference is so massive, you owe it to yourself to give it a try.

I liaks the 18v OCD much more over the 9v, which can sound muffled and does get muddy at high volumes.
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#27
I'll have to go to GC again and try the 6505+ on a Mesa cab with the OCD. I want to know if it's my cab that make the pedals react differently or the guitar. If I come away with the same opinion with the OCD as a boost again... I'll get one of those and ditch the 808

Plus, I found a guitar I want there for super cheap and I want to see what they'll give me on a trade in
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#28
What'd you think of the M13 when you tried it? I've often considered it as an alternative to lugging around a 40 pound pedalboard everywhere, but i'm concerned about the versatility.
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I thought the OCD V4 Was Bland..........I Like the MI Audio Blues Pro Alot More......Keep the 808.
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I'll have to go to GC again and try the 6505+ on a Mesa cab with the OCD. I want to know if it's my cab that make the pedals react differently or the guitar. If I come away with the same opinion with the OCD as a boost again... I'll get one of those and ditch the 808

Plus, I found a guitar I want there for super cheap and I want to see what they'll give me on a trade in

You might want to bring me with you if you want a good trade in price
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that or bring in a jcm800. the holy grail of guitar center lololol
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I dont understand....
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What'd you think of the M13 when you tried it? I've often considered it as an alternative to lugging around a 40 pound pedalboard everywhere, but i'm concerned about the versatility.

I really liked the M13. That thing was cool as hell. I didn't even realize it had a built in looper until I went to try it either

I'm still debating whether I want to get the M13 or just get a G-Major though, but the G-Major is impossible to try out before I buy it. Hmmm....

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I dont understand....

He traded a JCM800 to GC for a Mesa Road King II head. Guitar Center is stupid
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He traded a JCM800 to GC for a Mesa Road King II head. Guitar Center is stupid


Wait....i think i remember that now!!

#36
LOLS let's hope you get that trade...I like the trade much more than what you have now
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LOLS let's hope you get that trade...I like the trade much more than what you have now

Guitar Center said they won't take trade-ins on custom guitars (which rules out me trading my Warmoth in). Well then I guess they aren't getting my money!
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