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#1
Apparently Mesa is going to discontinue the Dual Rectifier. Once they do, you'll only be able to get the Road King, which imo doesn't sound as good as the Dual.
Boogie should have never changed the original Dual form the 2 channel to the 3. Now they're getting rid of one of the best amps in their line.
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#2
Mesa always discontinues stuff to make room for something better. I imagine they're going to either introduce a new fangled Rectifier (which may be either better or worse) or something completely different.

Besides, it means more cheap Rectos on the used market, which is fine by me.
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It's true. I teach at a store that sells Boogie. The owner told me today that the new Dual head that he just got in, will be the last one.
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WHAT!?

The Dual Rectifier is my dream amp. Now when I finally get enough money for one, I won't even get the satisfaction of being the first owner.


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Once they do, you'll only be able to get the Road King, which imo doesn't sound as good as the Dual.

wat


Sucks about the Dual Recto though. Im looking forward to whatever they replace it with
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#9
dual rec isn't nearly as good as people make it out to be. much better amps in its price range.
#10
they should discontinue ALL the rectos imo. bad sounding amp, and mostly responsible for the "numetal" sound. they need to stick to the Mark series and the Lonestars. now THOSE are amps that live up to the brand
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they should discontinue ALL the rectos imo. bad sounding amp, and mostly responsible for the "numetal" sound.


Sounds like someone doesn't like the chugga chugga
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Sounds like someone doesn't like the chugga chugga


indeed i don't.

however not all amps capable of the chugga chugga do it badly like the rectos. look at anything made by engl or diezel. they get heavy as **** BUT they are also capable of toning down t3h br00talz for a while and getting overdriven or even clean, rather than knock-your-house-down-with-nasally-volume-and-chugging. I just find the rectos to be far too harsh and abrasive tonally.
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indeed i don't.

however not all amps capable of the chugga chugga do it badly like the rectos. look at anything made by engl or diezel. they get heavy as **** BUT they are also capable of toning down t3h br00talz for a while and getting overdriven or even clean, rather than knock-your-house-down-with-nasally-volume-and-chugging.


You've been ripping on Recs for the whole day today, and not just in this thread!

puh-lease...freedom of opinion, yes, but not when it's ridiculously excessive.
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#14
I love the chugga chugga. Just so long as it sticks to internet chat boards.
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You've been ripping on Recs for the whole day today, and not just in this thread!

puh-lease...freedom of opinion, yes, but not when it's ridiculously excessive.



?


people have been talking about them a lot today.

stop making threads on them if you don't want me bringing up recto-rage
#16
Maybe they make different amps, because not everyone has the same taste. I've owned one of the original 2 channel Rectos for almost 15 years. It's been the most reliable, best sounding amp I've ever owned.
One reason that you may not like it is because alot of people who buy hi-gain amps, don't have a clue as how to use them. I see guys all the time, crank the lows, highs, presence and gain, and have little to no mids. That is a horrible sound, regardless of what type of amp you're playing through.
I set mine sort of like this; bass at about 12:00, mids at 2:00, highs at around 1:00, presence at about 9:00, and the gain at 2:00. The amp sings and still has plenty of bottom end.
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they should discontinue ALL the rectos imo. bad sounding amp, and mostly responsible for the "numetal" sound. they need to stick to the Mark series and the Lonestars. now THOSE are amps that live up to the brand


say what you want about the 'nu metal' genre, a lotta people loved that genre and the tone, so i think it's a lil harsh to make it sound like everything that came from the nu-metal phase was crap. i, personally, enjoyed the early KoRn and System of a Down's first few albums very much lol...

aside from the nu-metal bands/albums that i really liked, the leftovers aren't as annoying as today's surplus of 'core' wannabes lol...

that lil rant aside, which i pray didn't actually offend anyone ha, there's nothing wrong with discontinuing amps, when they're bringing out new and improved models anyway. marshall did that and ended up with some nice turnouts...as well as not so nice i guess...as well as any other established brand. give it a chance. for all you know, they'll put out a model that'll be the 'new' JCM800 if you catch my drift ha.
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#19
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say what you want about the 'nu metal' genre, a lotta people loved that genre and the tone, so i think it's a lil harsh to make it sound like everything that came from the nu-metal phase was crap. i, personally, enjoyed the early KoRn and System of a Down's first few albums very much lol...


I'm not associating it with any bands, im just associating it with "that tone" you know which one I'm talking about, the whole scooped mids, chugga chugga dealy. I know thats not all it's capable of, but its what you hear the most, and even the other stuff its capable of, mesa makes other amps that do all of it better.

for example, james hetfield used to play the mark IIC+, then he recently switched to a dual rectifier. the tone of the IIC+ absolutely blows away the triple recto.
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#20
^fair enough, that's a lil bit more of a defendable argument there lol. yea, i feel ya on that. i've never had the chance to play ANY Mesa yet, and up until the past year or so, i always thought the Rectos were supposed to be 'amazing'....and for the prices they quoted, i figured they'd have to be. but i guess it's really a love/hate thing. they say the mesa's have their own sound, which i believe for sure, but i wish i knew what THAT sound was...just so i could see what makes it so much more desirable than all the other amps on the market that nail all these other tones....the notorious not-so-tight bass would definitely scare me away from these amps...nothing i hate more than a nasty flabby bass muddying up my higher gain haha.
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#21
Quote by Lt. Shinysides
I'm not associating it with any bands, im just associating it with "that tone" you know which one I'm talking about, the whole scooped mids, chugga chugga dealy. I know thats not all it's capable of, but its what you hear the most, and even the other stuff its capable of, mesa makes other amps that do all of it better.

for example, james hetfield used to play the mark IIC+, then he recently switched to a triple rectifier. the tone of the IIC+ absolutely blows away the triple recto.

I thought he switched to a Dual Rectifier? And he doesn't use the Mesa amps live much anymore, he's got 2 Diezel heads in his tour rack.
#22
I think just about everybody owns a dual rectifier at this point. It'll be a refresher.
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#23
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I thought he switched to a Dual Rectifier? And he doesn't use the Mesa amps live much anymore, he's got 2 Diezel heads in his tour rack.



oops i meant dual. the tone is pretty much the same anyways.

but see, even he knew the tone out of those things was just sub-metallica. his VH4s sound ****ing awesome. as does his blackstar series 1 200 (which not a lot of people know about, since it's backstage)
#24
i never really saw the appeal of the dual rectifiers but then again im not so keen on scooped mids, if i was gunna spend that much on an amp i'd go for something like a bogner uberschall or a framus cobra (i know a little more expensive but in comparison to the prices not by too much) something you could get a bit more of a signature sound from
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#25
Quote by Lt. Shinysides
oops i meant dual. the tone is pretty much the same anyways.

but see, even he knew the tone out of those things was just sub-metallica. his VH4s sound ****ing awesome. as does his blackstar series 1 200 (which not a lot of people know about, since it's backstage)


the series one amps seem quite interesting. ive only played the 45 and its pretty good. i can only imagine that the 200 would be much better.

but woah... getting rid of the dual rec?? i guess the day had to come eventually. it also happened to the jcm800. i doubt mesa will make new amps that are only pale imitations of the dual rec because mesa is not selling out like marshall has. in fact i quite respect the guys at mesa for not conforming to popular demand and only making amps that they can feel genuinely proud of. they dont make any cheap amps just to please the public and earn more money. i think the same cant be said for brands like vox, orange, marshall, peavey, randall and pretty much every other popular guitar amp manufacturer. (kinda sounds snobby but if you think about it from the point of view of an idealistic amp builder, his dream would be to make the best amps possible amps, not piles of cash)

i guess what i am getting at is that we shouldnt have to worry. even if we loose the dual rec, we should trust them to make new amps that do the same thing just as well or better rather than going downhill like marshall has.
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the series one amps seem quite interesting. ive only played the 45 and its pretty good. i can only imagine that the 200 would be much better.

but woah... getting rid of the dual rec?? i guess the day had to come eventually. it also happened to the jcm800. i doubt mesa will make new amps that are only pale imitations of the dual rec because mesa is not selling out like marshall has. in fact i quite respect the guys at mesa for not conforming to popular demand and only making amps that they can feel genuinely proud of. they dont make any cheap amps just to please the public and earn more money. i think the same cant be said for brands like vox, orange, marshall, peavey, randall and pretty much every other popular guitar amp manufacturer. (kinda sounds snobby but if you think about it from the point of view of an idealistic amp builder, his dream would be to make the best amps possible amps, not piles of cash)

i guess what i am getting at is that we shouldnt have to worry. even if we loose the dual rec, we should trust them to make new amps that do the same thing just as well or better rather than going downhill like marshall has.


Apart from marshall those guys haven't sold their soul as amp makers, just gone for another target audience, which is good business sense. Even Marshall hasn't really done it, the amp's were just overpriced for what they were. Whereas Mesa continue to only point them selves at semi pro/pro level guitarists, which it not good business sense.
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#27
Quote by Lt. Shinysides
they should discontinue ALL the rectos imo. bad sounding amp, and mostly responsible for the "numetal" sound. they need to stick to the Mark series and the Lonestars. now THOSE are amps that live up to the brand


I agree completely. Put their arsenal of all the Mark amps they ever put out against the rectifiers.

I mean they practically do this with EVERY amp they ever put out. The mark 4 and dual recs have arguably been around the longest. Mark 4 got discontinued. Imo the mark 4 is better in EVERY WAY than any rectifier.

Now the dual rec might be going. Something new will come out psh...
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#28
This whole thread bashing rectos is a load of shit personally.

Don't make generalizations about all the rectifiers based on one single line of the series. The ToV is pretty awesome, so is the regular Rect-o-Verb. And who forgot about the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster? The two-channel Recto?

Now those are some pretty good ****ing amps. If you deny that basic fact, then I really question whether you've actually spent time sculpting a godly tone, or you've just made a quick judgment based on a prejudice you've already made. I'm not saying Mesa doesn't make some amps that are better, because I will agree that the Mark IIC+, IV and V are three of my favorite amps. Let's keep the amp bashing down a bit.
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#29
Oh well, I was getting tired of the Recto sound anyways. They need a new flagship amp for nooby guitar magazines to rape anyways.

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This whole thread bashing rectos is a load of shit personally.

Don't make generalizations about all the rectifiers based on one single line of the series. The ToV is pretty awesome, so is the regular Rect-o-Verb. And who forgot about the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster? The two-channel Recto?

Now those are some pretty good ****ing amps. If you deny that basic fact, then I really question whether you've actually spent time sculpting a godly tone, or you've just made a quick judgment based on a prejudice you've already made. I'm not saying Mesa doesn't make some amps that are better, because I will agree that the Mark IIC+, IV and V are three of my favorite amps. Let's keep the amp bashing down a bit.



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#30
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Apart from marshall those guys haven't sold their soul as amp makers, just gone for another target audience, which is good business sense. Even Marshall hasn't really done it, the amp's were just overpriced for what they were. Whereas Mesa continue to only point them selves at semi pro/pro level guitarists, which it not good business sense.


i never said anything about selling souls. the reason people make expensive amps is to do the best possible work in their craft that their ability allows. the reason people make cheaper amps is to appeal to more people (which is fine too). the fact that mesa chooses to only make expensive amps despite the substantial temptation of 'good business sense' shows that they really do care about their craft. its like a band that writes music that they want to write rather than music that the general public wants to hear. it shows integrity towards the craft.
#31
Wa?! Nooooo!

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#32
i'm glad i just got my recto last month before they stopped them!!! i love mine

tbf, some people like them and some dont its completely personal opinion. i tried out a markV when i went to get my recto and i personally didn't like the sound, so you can't really generalise amps just because YOU dont like it. your taste may be different to someone else's and clearly the dual recto has been popular because its been around for ages so it must appeal and sell units. an amplifier company should really aim to try and please every guitarist out there and should have a range of options for them and i think by having the mark series and the rectos that's what mesa did (lonestars and other models as well).
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#33
Im gonna laugh so hard when they reissue the original 2ch rectos!
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#34
personally, i dont care. i think the rectos suck (for my tastes/styles). that being said, that seems like a pretty stupid move to take away one of your better-selling amps....i'm sure they'll replace it somehow.
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#36
To be fair. This is through the Grapevine. So I cannot say with any accuracy but this from HC's site. In a similar posting.

Straight from my artist rep at Mesa Boogie:

"We have a newly designed recto coming out. where are you recording? You gotta check it out. brighter and more closely related to the 2 channel. 3 channels, 100/50 watt switch, greatly improved Raw mode, clean is huge now."

Definitely cannot wait to check this out. If it's more like the old 2 channels then I might be game.


So who knows if this will unveiled at 2010 NAMM? I hope so.
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#38
Boring sounding. Not that that's bad, but I hope they put out something better than teh Dual Rectumfrier.
#39
Anyone else read the thread title with a jar jar binks voice?

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#40
I don't think you'll have to ever worry about finding a Dual Rec. They pop up like 5150s on CL and eBay...

Chill, bro.
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