#1
I enjoy a film while I'm watching it, but as soon as it ends, I often realise that there were some rather strange parts of it.

I find this in a lot of movies. I saw Avatar recently, and that raised a bunch of questions, but I'm not going to bore you with them.

What I'd like to know is, does anyone else begin to see many "flaws" in movies right after seeing them?
#2
Yes, to every movie especialy Die Hard 4.0
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#4
Absolutely. But I have a lot of problems with movies and their messages too, I don't know if anyone saw Avatar but I was cheering for the military people the entire time, and if anyone replies to this indicating that they care, I have a bunch of other problems in that movie to rant about.
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#5
I do, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying the movie any less if I happen to watch it again. Which is why I will be watching Avatar again sometime this weeks, even though there are a few things that aren't perfect about it. I just thought it was amazing overall.
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#6
I do over-analyze films.

Wall-E would be a very ****ed up film if you replaced Wall-E and Eve with real people.
#7
*ahem*
David Lynch?

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#8
I do tend to do this, but usually in a positive light if I liked the film, where as when I saw Twilight I spent the whole time mentally criticising it (it's just so ****ing blue ...).
#10
There was this cracked article on some gaping plot holes, you might find it interesting. Just click "recent articles", should still be there.
Military use of children?

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#11
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I do over-analyze films.

Wall-E would be a very ****ed up film if you replaced Wall-E and Eve with real people.

What annoyed me about Wall-E is that the people on the ship, who had for several generations spent their entire lives in those chairs, to the extent that their bones grew weak, managed to stand up and walk with a bit of effort.

They were never taught to walk, and their bones would not be able to support their weight anyway. I know it's a Disney movie and needs a happy ending, but that was a bit too impossible.
#12
Yes, and then I can't enjoy it, and other people critisize me for over-analyzing a movie.
#13
Yes I do, as I over-analyse books and paintings. I'm not talking about plot-holes, but references to earlier works, symbolism and possible messages. It's almost habitual now.
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Yes I do, as I over-analyse books and paintings. I'm not talking about plot-holes, but references to earlier works, symbolism and possible messages. It's almost habitual now.


I do the exact same thing, any minor event in a book takes me 5 minutes looking for a metaphor, and it feels like a let-down if I can't find one or even make one up
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#15
Im a media/film student so yes.

I can still appreciate a film which totally sucks but is entertaining though.
Whether it be 'the cinematography, story, characters and special effects are so bad its funny' or 'the story sucks, but the action scenes and characters are so over-the-top its awesome' types films.
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#16
Alright, nobody asked, but I have to get this off my chest anyway.

In Avatar, after (unrealistically) the Smurfs manage to defeat the Military dudes, why would it end there? Realising that they had lost so many soldiers on Nova, the military (righteously) would just either send more, or decide they didn't need the Unobtainium or whatever and nuke the entire planet from orbit.
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Alright, nobody asked, but I have to get this off my chest anyway.

In Avatar, after (unrealistically) the Smurfs manage to defeat the Military dudes, why would it end there? Realising that they had lost so many soldiers on Nova, the military (righteously) would just either send more, or decide they didn't need the Unobtainium or whatever and nuke the entire planet from orbit.


We don't know that it ends there. Open ending in a way. Some people speculate there might be a sequel, even though I think that's pretty much BS.
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Alright, nobody asked, but I have to get this off my chest anyway.

In Avatar, after (unrealistically) the Smurfs manage to defeat the Military dudes, why would it end there? Realising that they had lost so many soldiers on Nova, the military (righteously) would just either send more, or decide they didn't need the Unobtainium or whatever and nuke the entire planet from orbit.

Well spotted, I didn't think of that.

What bothered me was why the military's Mech suits had to carry guns and knives (wtf?). They could have just built guns into its arms.

It's set in 2154, and yet the military technology used is just a bunch of fancy helicopters, and their navigation systems are not shielded from flux fields. Surely if they have the technology to establish a base on another planet, they would have more advanced military technology as well?

Also, if they'd been there long enough to establish schools to teach the Smurfs english, couldn't they have had some democratic talks along the way? The humans knew where the Unobtanium (stupid name) reserves were. The smurfs don't need it. Just ask.
#19
I"m the kinda guy that when he figures something out while the movie is still playing I end up saying what I realized out loud to everyone as if to say "I'm smart I get what's going on" when in reality they probably already know.

I just like to feel like my brain can figure things out sometimes.
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#20
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I"m the kinda guy that when he figures something out while the movie is still playing I end up saying what I realized out loud to everyone as if to say "I'm smart I get what's going on" when in reality they probably already know.

I just like to feel like my brain can figure things out sometimes.


Brains have a tendency to do that.
#21
"What bothered me was why the military's Mech suits had to carry guns and knives (wtf?)."

Exactly what I thought just by watching the previews. They seriously use humanoid-type robots that walk on two legs and carry guns? What the hell kind of weapon is that? I'd imagine a simple tank being much safer and more stable than THAT.
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Well spotted, I didn't think of that.

What bothered me was why the military's Mech suits had to carry guns and knives (wtf?). They could have just built guns into its arms.

It's set in 2154, and yet the military technology used is just a bunch of fancy helicopters, and their navigation systems are not shielded from flux fields. Surely if they have the technology to establish a base on another planet, they would have more advanced military technology as well?

Also, if they'd been there long enough to establish schools to teach the Smurfs english, couldn't they have had some democratic talks along the way? The humans knew where the Unobtanium (stupid name) reserves were. The smurfs don't need it. Just ask.

Doesn't sound like you over-anazlyed it. It sounds like you didn't understand it.
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"What bothered me was why the military's Mech suits had to carry guns and knives (wtf?)."

Exactly what I thought just by watching the previews. They seriously use humanoid-type robots that walk on two legs and carry guns? What the hell kind of weapon is that? I'd imagine a simple tank being much safer and more stable than THAT.


I think that the idea behind that was that somehow the soldier driving the mech wouldn't need any additional training for the weapons, because it's just like shooting a regular gun, if much bigger. It was stupid anyway. I think that James Cameron just wanted to turn this:

Into this:



Also, addressing the guy talking about how the Smurfs don't need the Unobtanium: The biggest reserve was under their 'village' thing, and unearthing it would destroy the village.
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#26
yup, thats why i dont watch superproductions, they always come out being a piece of s**** to me. I watched Paranormal Activity last night, i was expecting a lame movie but it turned out better than i expected, in fact i think it was a great debut for the producer.
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I think that the idea behind that was that somehow the soldier driving the mech wouldn't need any additional training for the weapons, because it's just like shooting a regular gun, if much bigger. It was stupid anyway. I think that James Cameron just wanted to turn this: [pics]

Also, addressing the guy talking about how the Smurfs don't need the Unobtanium: The biggest reserve was under their 'village' thing, and unearthing it would destroy the village.


Also I guess normal tanks would be pretty useless in a foresty area jumping over rocks and trees and all that.

One thing I would have liked to know is what the humans want the unobtainium for and what's so special about it.
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Also I guess normal tanks would be pretty useless in a foresty area jumping over rocks and trees and all that.

One thing I would have liked to know is what the humans want the unobtainium for and what's so special about it.


It's worth a lot of money.

EDDIT: It's a "room temperature super conductor, worth 20 million a kilo on Earth"

EDDIT2: Just to clear up, I don't hate the movie, I thought visually it was the best I've ever seen. But I didn't care for the plot or messages in it.
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#29
There was something that really bothered me about WALL-E.

Look at the spaceship that the humans were living in! It's a self-sustaining haven where both necessities and luxuries are in great supply, where humans don't even need to do anything as the environment around them takes care of them and itself. A life of pure pleasure and zero conflict, a life without worry. So explain to me the logic of returning back to a forsaken planet that is likely impossible to survive on just because some robot brought back a plant. A plant. Is that really all it took for the denizens on that ship to leave behind eternal bliss? Just because it was the "responsible" thing to do?

Man, it was still a great film but that part of the plot was too annoying to accept.