#1
I have 400$ budget to get something good. I need tips on what to get, my aim is something metalcore, near Bullet for my Valentine or Avenged Sevenfold.

Currently I have:
Ibanez RG2EX1 Guitar (V7/V8 Passive Pickups)
Boss DS-1 Distortion Pedal
Marshall MG-10 Amp (Failure Amp)


What I had in mind.

Choice #1:
Roland 80x 80watt Combo Amp (399$)
Votes:1


Choice #2:
Roland 20x 20watt Combo Amp (199$)
A set of 81/85 EMG Pickups (180$)
Votes:1


Choice #3:
Roland 20x 20watt Combo Amp (199$)
A set of 81/81 EMG Pickups (180$)
Votes:0


Choice #4:
Blackheart HT5 (599$)
Vote:1



Choice #5: Peavey 6505 Tube Halfstack (599$)
Vote:1


Please submit some tips on what to buy and try to help me choose from those to get a metalcore sound.
Last edited by Imapinkboi at Dec 24, 2009,
#3
Why not with choices 2 or 3?
Do pickups make a REAL big difference or not? I was curious.
#4
It saysup there

Currently I have:
RG2EX1 Guitar (V7/V8 Passive Pickups)
Boss DS-1 Distortion Pedal
Marshall MG-10 Amp (Failure Amp)
#7
Quote by Vitor_vdp
Active pickups with cheap solid state amps are a BAD idea.


ah thanks
#8
I'd go with choice 1.
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#10
Couldn't you save another 200 to get a Blackstar HT5?

It'd give you better tones than any of those choices there...
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#11
Quote by ragingkitty
Couldn't you save another 200 to get a Blackstar HT5?

It'd give you better tones than any of those choices there...



Roland's are bad? I've heard alot of good things about them though.

Blackstars HT5's? I'll look up on them right now.
#12
depends how loud you need your amp. you need to get a valve amp to get the full benefits of active pickups. If you want that amp it will sound decent anyway so you could maybe hold off on the pickups until you could afford a better amp. maybe a peavy vypyr would be a better idea. the are of similar price and will sound good with emg's.
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#13
Quote by sammo_boi
depends how loud you need your amp. you need to get a valve amp to get the full benefits of active pickups. If you want that amp it will sound decent anyway so you could maybe hold off on the pickups until you could afford a better amp. maybe a peavy vypyr would be a better idea. the are of similar price and will sound good with emg's.



Thanks for the advice...

was wondering if this is the right one.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Peavey-Vypyr-30-30W-1x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp-104922869-i1413606.gc
#14
emg and all other active pickups are pretty much pointless on Solid state amps like the rolands
are you gigging? you could get a tube combo liek the blackstar ht5 and use a good distortion pedal or boost it
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#15
Quote by Imapinkboi
Roland's are bad? I've heard alot of good things about them though.

Blackstars HT5's? I'll look up on them right now.


Rolands aren't bad. In fact they are pretty good practice amps.

However, if you have access to $400 now, why not save up another $150 - $200 and get a tube amp. The Blackstar HT5 is a pretty good upgrade from a practice amp into the low end of the mid range amps.

Since you already have 60% of the budget, make an upgrade, not a lateral movement.

Sure the Peavey Vypyr and the Roland Cubes are great practice amps, but you're moving from one practice amp to another. Yes, its a significant improvement, but improving from 1 practice amp to another practice amp isn't a massive leap in terms of tone.

Saving up $200 is easy as seeing you already have $400. Saving up $600 is gonna be a stretch.

Just so you know, an EMG still won't sound great on a modeling amp.
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Last edited by ragingkitty at Dec 24, 2009,
#16
I'd also check out the vypyr.
+ I won't buy active EMGs, but that's just my taste. I'd buy a pair of seymore duncans (the jeff becks are quite nice)
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#18
Quote by ragingkitty
Rolands aren't bad. In fact they are pretty good practice amps.

However, if you have access to $400 now, why not save up another $150 - $200 and get a tube amp. The Blackstar HT5 is a pretty good upgrade from a practice amp into the low end of the mid range amps.

Since you already have 60% of the budget, make and upgrade, not a lateral movement. Sure the Peavey Vypyr and the Roland Cubes are great practice amps, but you're moving from one practice amp to another. Yes, its a significant improvement, but improving from 1 practice amp to another practice amp isn't a massive leap in terms of tone.

Saving up $200 is easy as seeing you already have $400. Saving up $600 is gonna be a stretch.



oooh, thanks for the advice
#19
EMG's + Cube is not a good combo.

If you want to use EMG's, get a tube amp.
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#20
if you save up another $200 then you could get a peavey 6505 1x12 combo which would do everything you need
i know michael padget uses a boosted peavey 6505 for the studio and probably live
you could use your DS-1 as a boost?

or maybe look at used 5150
only useful buying pickups when you have a good guitar a good amp and theres still something missing from your tone
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Last edited by superfish1232 at Dec 24, 2009,
#21
yeah that is it. they sound so much more natural than the cubes. and 30 watt is more than enough for just home use. maybe you could consider some other pickups too. seymour duncan and dimarzio make great passive pickups for metal. if you have the chance go and try out some different combinations at guitar center or wherever you go.
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#22
Oooh, I was looking onto the Vypyr and it looks good, but it doesn't sound good with active pickups? ((

Well I'll probally save up for a stack then.

Was hoping on Blackheart one or the Blackstar HT5
#23
Improve your amp first. Then think about pickups.

The Blackstar HT5 will be a smarter purchase over a modeling practice amp.

The 6505+ 112 would be also a pretty good choice too for the BFMV sound.
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Last edited by ragingkitty at Dec 24, 2009,
#24
Quote by ragingkitty
Improve your amp first. Then think about pickups.

The Blackstar HT5 will be a smarter purchase over a modeling practice amp.

The 6505+ 112 would be also a pretty good choice too for the BFMV sound.



6505

there so expensive! lol.
#26
Quote by Imapinkboi
6505

there so expensive! lol.




http://www.guitarcenter.com/Peavey-6505-Plus-112-60W-1x12-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp-582106-i1445921.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Blackstar-HT-Series-HT-5H-and-HT-110-Guitar-Mini-Half-Stack-105154439-i1435429.gc

They're the same price.

When you make the upgrade to EMGs later, the impact would be that much greater with a tube amp.
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#27
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Oooh, thanks for the tip, the 6505 looks alot better.
#28
Peavey 6505/5150 is a good amp, however the cleans leave a lot to be desired.

Take a look at Bugera (I've recently had them recommended to me) if you want metalcore sound on a budget. 6262 is likely to do what you need, but the 1990 gives a pretty good sound as well.

Of course you could look at the Valveking, but you will probably need a tube screamer to boost the sound and get the tightly overdriven sound you're looking for.
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#29
can't go wrong with the Blackstar ht5 or 6505. Both better than those dreadful cube amps and they will take your pedal better