#1
Hello! I own a VOX VT 30 and I am going to sell it tomorrow because it just doesn't sound good for me. It's got tone and effects-saving flaws and it's so damn complicated to set up and use.

Now I'm looking for a metal practice 30 watt amplifier. My choices would be:
1: Roland Cube 30x
2: Line 6 Spider III 30

I don't know if that matters, but I own a high-end guitar equipped with EMG 81/85 active pickups.

So which amp offers more quality, reliability and versatility?
#2
Not a big fan of the cubes, so I'd take the Spider between those two. But IMO the Vypyr is the bestt of the modeling amps, but they aren't very user-friendly from my experience, but sound pretty good.
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#3
Get the Roland Cube.

I've got one, and it's one of the best solid state practice amps i've ever played.
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#4
None of them will work well with EMGs.

Both of them will sound as good/bad as your VOX or even worse.
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#5
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None of them will work well with EMGs.

Both of them will sound as good/bad as your VOX or even worse.


You know I played a Marshall MG 100 before(I know it's the shittiest amp ever) and a roland micro cube and honestly the cube sounded alot better than the marshall. Too bad it lacked an equalizer. But overall awesome stuff. And the acoustic simulator just left me speechless
#7
I would recommend the cube, i have 1 n i really prefer it to all the SS amps iv played. But, for the first time in my life i am gonna say listen to Jesus haha, jesuscrisp is right. I played a Schecter Hellraiser with EMGs through my Cube 60 and it sounded worse than my Schecter B1 blackhawk with stock pickups.

You would be better sticking with your Vox or looking into a small tube amp IMO
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#9
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TS, you're basically selling your current amp to buy another similar amp.


I state the same
#10
roland kick the biggest ass, line 6 are bollocks, just traded my floor pod in, good riddance, now i just have to put up with a spider 3 head until i get a peavey, at least i have my trusty boss me 50
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#11
Quote by Steel8909
TS, you're basically selling your current amp to buy another similar amp.


True, but the Cube is far superior for higher-gain stuff.
TS: Cube, Cube, Cube, Cube, Cube, Cube, Cube.

Personally, I prefer them to any low-end moddelling amp (including the Vypr). They're simple, and sound pretty decent as long as you're not a monkey with an EQ
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Buy a real amp instead.
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#13
The cube is okay for a modeling amp. Although, it's not a big step up from a Vox modeling amp even if it suits you more.
#14
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Buy a real amp instead.

I said a practice amp dude. And I told you guys why I'm selling the vox. Too complicated and unreliable. So I'll just take the cube. Saw some reviews that said it's rock solid and I'm gonna have no problem with it
#15
Don't get the Spider, it's really not that good.
The Cube is okay, but it was a bit lackluster when I played it.
I didn't like the Vypyr too much either, but it's the best for metal and second-best (next to the Vox VT) in the modeling amps of that low-range.

I think you would like the Vypyr, but if you have to choose between the Spider and the Cube.
Get the Cube.

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^The Vox is unreliable...? My brother in law has had his ADVT for five years, and it's been to hell and back (dropped down two flights of stairs, tossed around in truck)... it still works like it did when it was new.

Don't go off reviews online. Try the amps out in-person... if you can, that is.
Last edited by dudey5691 at Dec 27, 2009,
#16
the cube is better than the spider.

But really keep the Vox and learn to EQ properly. How is it complicated to use? Just go to "Manual Mode" and choose ur amp model and then eq, then play. THats it.

also listen to this, he's getting a pretty nice metal tone with the Vox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87rYo8e2M5E
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#17
Allright, I recognize, the VOX is a great amp but I don't know if it's just me but it saves improperly the sounds I add to the bank and the effects. For example if the reverb knob is halfway, I turn the amp off, I turn it on(the reverb knob is still halfway), the amp takes the reverb like it's 0. I have to move the knob just a lil bit so the amp will recognize the reverb knob. That's only one example. That's why it is unreliable. Can't trust it on stage.
And I'll take the cube...it's got a tuner, an awesome acoustic simulator, power squeezer blablabla. Thanks guys for helping me make my choice

And about the youtube clip...yeah the vox has got 22 amp models, each one with 3 options. That's 66 amp models. Pretty good
Last edited by DethDroogie at Dec 27, 2009,
#18
Quote by DethDroogie
Allright, I recognize, the VOX is a great amp but I don't know if it's just me but it saves improperly the sounds I add to the bank and the effects. For example if the reverb knob is halfway, I turn the amp off, I turn it on(the reverb knob is still halfway), the amp takes the reverb like it's 0. I have to move the knob just a lil bit so the amp will recognize the reverb knob. That's only one example. That's why it is unreliable. Can't trust it on stage.
And I'll take the cube...it's got a tuner, an awesome acoustic simulator, power squeezer blablabla. Thanks guys for helping me make my choice

And about the youtube clip...yeah the vox has got 22 amp models, each one with 3 options. That's 66 amp models. Pretty good



i think u are in the preset mode or one of the saved channels. The channels are saved with no reverb. So when u turn the amp off and turn it back on, the reverb will be at 0 cuz it was saved at 0. If u want the reverb to stay at halfway, u have to save it. Hope thats not confusing haha
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#19
Quote by holycow
i think u are in the preset mode or one of the saved channels. The channels are saved with no reverb. So when u turn the amp off and turn it back on, the reverb will be at 0 cuz it was saved at 0. If u want the reverb to stay at halfway, u have to save it. Hope thats not confusing haha


Yeah, you're right. Sucks to be on stage and wake up with no reverb for example, when you know it's halfway. And the effects have so many setups...like 3 for each one. You'll get mad trying to set it up. I did
The Roland is what I want. Pretty simple stuff, simple effect setup, on-board tuner. Can't wait to get it
Last edited by DethDroogie at Dec 27, 2009,
#20
Quote by DethDroogie
I said a practice amp dude.

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Can't trust it on stage.


Why can't I reconcile these two statements?
None of them are going to give a stage quality tone or anything like gigging volume. I'd keep the Vox and save for something of better sound quality.
If you really have the new amp itch (no disrespect, we all get it) then the Cube is built like a tank.
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#21
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Why can't I reconcile these two statements?
None of them are going to give a stage quality tone or anything like gigging volume. I'd keep the Vox and save for something of better sound quality.
If you really have the new amp itch (no disrespect, we all get it) then the Cube is built like a tank.


Well I'm like intermediate level but my teacher, sometimes takes me with him to sing live
So that's why I need to rely on it
#22
Take the Cube by far.
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#23
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Why can't I reconcile these two statements?
None of them are going to give a stage quality tone or anything like gigging volume. I'd keep the Vox and save for something of better sound quality.
If you really have the new amp itch (no disrespect, we all get it) then the Cube is built like a tank.


Exactly what I was thinking. Why get a practice amp to be used for gigging.


TS: In terms of tone, neither of the amps you mentioned will sound any better than your Vox. You're better off keeping it and using it for a practice amp and spending your money to get you something giggable so you don't have to use a practice amp in gig situations.
#24
Dudes I just bought the Roland 30x and It's insane. It's miles away from that crappy VOX. And the mesa-rectifier just blows you away.
So stop talking shit about VOX being better than roland cuz it ain't that way. The vox only has more features. But the roland has an incorporated tuner which is so helpful...
#26
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So all I can say is that you are a bunch of useless assholes, unable to give right advices

And you're a whiny little twerp.

The Roland doesn't sound significantly better than the Vox, you've just decided it does because that's what you wanted to happen.
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#27
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So all I can say is that you are a bunch of useless assholes, unable to give right advices


Better close this thread then, since it's useless.
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