#1
So I'm thinking of getting MIM Fender Strat and putting Single Coil EMG's (Active ones) in it. I just wanted to know if they're any good. I usually play Fightstar, Biffy Clyro, 30 Seconds To Mars, Guns N Roses and Led Zeppelin.
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Get a HSS strat.
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Get a HSS strat.


I don't wanna get a HSS, it doesn't look right to me lol.

Well I worked out that a MIM Strat is £350 plus the set of EMG's it would come to £550 which I don't think is too bad. I know I could get a RG for less but I don't like the feel of them. Can you suggest any guitars that could do what music I wanna do for less money?
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Dimarzio makes some nice single coils, i hear.
Paul Gilbert and Andy Timmons use singles in their guitars, i thought they were pretty versatile from the videos they posted in an interview.
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Quote by heminder
Dimarzio makes some nice single coils, i hear.
Paul Gilbert and Andy Timmons use singles in their guitars, i thought they were pretty versatile from the videos they posted in an interview.


Yes they do, I always reccomend the 12 pole single coils by Dimarzio, you have to contact them and have them custom made, but they are well worth the money, a full set of em costs $300 3 of em prewired to a strat pickguard with pots and everything.
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Quote by ethan_hanus
Yes they do, I always reccomend the 12 pole single coils by Dimarzio, you have to contact them and have them custom made, but they are well worth the money, a full set of em costs $300 3 of em prewired to a strat pickguard with pots and everything.

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#8
well Alex Westaway from Fightstar uses active single coils in his tele so it should do ok
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#9
Your in the UK Right?

Go to www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk

handwound, made in the UK, literally the best pickups i have ever used, and there are a large variety of pickups to choose from. I would recommend a calibrated set of Trilogy Suites, these have nice high output but can do vintage stuff too if you just roll down the volume, and you can order them prewired into a scratch plate of your choice, then its only a matter of switching out the scratch plate and soldering the socket!

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Quote by Talentless
Your in the UK Right?

Go to www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk

handwound, made in the UK, literally the best pickups i have ever used, and there are a large variety of pickups to choose from. I would recommend a calibrated set of Trilogy Suites, these have nice high output but can do vintage stuff too if you just roll down the volume, and you can order them prewired into a scratch plate of your choice, then its only a matter of switching out the scratch plate and soldering the socket!

If your in the UK, buy bareknuckle....... you wont regret it.

This, or look at Carvin or Godin guitars, they should fit your bill.
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If your in the UK, buy bareknuckle....... you wont regret it.
I respectfully disagree. I'm int he UK, I bought Bare Knuckle pickups... and they were terrible. As in worse than the stock pickups my crappy Rally (Chinese copy) LP had to begin with. I bought myself a set of Swineshead pickups instead and had a lovely time. However, Swineshead are on a break at the moment.

Anyway, OP, don't get the EMG singlecoils. EMG have actually done a pretty good job of making them sound like other noiseless singlecoil pickups but with the output of other active pickups - the problem with this is they sound like other noiseless singlecoil pickups with the output of other active pickups. Yes, EMG did what they set out to do - the problem is what they set out to do was a bollocks product that is useless to the vast majority of people. They have all the same problems that active pickups have with a tone that doesn't match the styles active pickups are used for. If you want a good singlecoil tone, you get good singlecoils. If you want the hard hitting output of active pickups, you're not going to want the chime of singlecoils. They're a pointless oxymoron of a pickup.

You want heavier tone out of a Strat but don't want full humbuckers? Get singlecoil-sized humbuckers. Hot Rails, Cool Rails, etc. Want Strat tone but with less noise? Get stacked singlecoils or some of those nice Lace Sensor pickups. Want singlecoil tone and low noise with high output for driving a suitable amp hard? Fender, Seymour Duncan, DiMarzio and many more companies make a wide range of nosieless singlecoils with high output but which don't quite have the tone of humbuckers. There are options out there for every use - active singlecoils are pointless at best, and guitar-ruining at worst.
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I respectfully disagree. I'm int he UK, I bought Bare Knuckle pickups... and they were terrible. As in worse than the stock pickups my crappy Rally (Chinese copy) LP had to begin with. I bought myself a set of Swineshead pickups instead and had a lovely time. However, Swineshead are on a break at the moment.



I can't actually see how this happened, I am a die hard supporter of BKP and use them in all my guitars and havent had a bad one yet, but im putting them into good guitars in the first place, I dunno maybe you got a bad set?

In general the pickups are amazing, got warpigs in my ibanez and the thick, complex, saturated tone i get from them is simply amazing.
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#13
EMG singles go with Gilmour's sound.
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I dunno maybe you got a bad set?
It's not like they were broken or anything. They just sounded crap. I ordered a Rebel Yell bridge humbucker and a Stormy Monday neck humbucker and honestly I couldn't tell any difference between them and the stock pickups the shitty guitar had in the first place. I sold them on to a mate who was doing a Warmoth at the time (for the record, he liked the pickups more than I did though he ended up replacing them too) and bought a Swinehsead Warthog and Condor instead (back when they were just £35 a pop - not £100 each like they are now) and as I said, I've had a lovely time ever since. I make no bones about it - Bare Knuckle pickups are the most expensive pickups I've ever bought and they're also the most non-descript, lifeless pickups I've ever used too outside of the stock pickups in an awful low-end Ibanez I once had. That's the level they were, to me. The stock pickups in my LTD SA-2 (which are just the generic stock ESP pickups) were no worse than the Bare Knuckles - and those Bare Knuckles cost me over £200. Sod that.

As a result I've ticked them off my list of top-price pickups to bother with. Right now I stick with Seymour Duncan as my basic cheaper brand, Swineshead when I want something really top-quality and Juicy when I want some one-off special made. Between those three I've got every base covered and I've not had a bad experience with any of them 'cept the SD Jazz and JB set, which were merely average (and at least didn't cost anywhere near as much as a pair of BKP costs).
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Quote by Crizzle
well Alex Westaway from Fightstar uses active single coils in his tele so it should do ok


Yeah that's what I'm looking at really but the Strat I got can knock out some pretty heavy distortion so I think I'll stick with that. I'm look at a LTD Vipercause I love the sound of EMG's.
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Quote by MrFlibble
It's not like they were broken or anything. They just sounded crap. I ordered a Rebel Yell bridge humbucker and a Stormy Monday neck humbucker and honestly I couldn't tell any difference between them and the stock pickups the shitty guitar had in the first place. I sold them on to a mate who was doing a Warmoth at the time (for the record, he liked the pickups more than I did though he ended up replacing them too) and bought a Swinehsead Warthog and Condor instead (back when they were just £35 a pop - not £100 each like they are now) and as I said, I've had a lovely time ever since. I make no bones about it - Bare Knuckle pickups are the most expensive pickups I've ever bought and they're also the most non-descript, lifeless pickups I've ever used too outside of the stock pickups in an awful low-end Ibanez I once had. That's the level they were, to me. The stock pickups in my LTD SA-2 (which are just the generic stock ESP pickups) were no worse than the Bare Knuckles - and those Bare Knuckles cost me over £200. Sod that.

As a result I've ticked them off my list of top-price pickups to bother with. Right now I stick with Seymour Duncan as my basic cheaper brand, Swineshead when I want something really top-quality and Juicy when I want some one-off special made. Between those three I've got every base covered and I've not had a bad experience with any of them 'cept the SD Jazz and JB set, which were merely average (and at least didn't cost anywhere near as much as a pair of BKP costs).


Each to their own i suppose, ive used a few different pickup brands myself, and ive found they are the best sounding pickups. I get complimented often for my tone....
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#17
Quote by MrFlibble
They have all the same problems that active pickups have with a tone that doesn't match the styles active pickups are used for. If you want a good singlecoil tone, you get good singlecoils. If you want the hard hitting output of active pickups, you're not going to want the chime of singlecoils. They're a pointless oxymoron of a pickup.


I respectfully disagree. People choose actives for more than just output.
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I respectfully disagree. People choose actives for more than just output.
The only other use they have on even the most boringly nerdy technical level is the wider frequency response that jazz players do so love. But that's only of use with a specific type of amp and is a use that clearly isn't what OP is intending nor is it something the majority of people on U-G will ever even remotely consider.

So no, in this context being a noiseless, high-output pickup is their only relevant use, both of which passive pickups can and will do better in this instance.
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The only other use they have on even the most boringly nerdy technical level is the wider frequency response that jazz players do so love. But that's only of use with a specific type of amp and is a use that clearly isn't what OP is intending nor is it something the majority of people on U-G will ever even remotely consider.

So no, in this context being a noiseless, high-output pickup is their only relevant use, both of which passive pickups can and will do better in this instance.


Not always, I would choose BKP over EMG's any day, but EMG's are not lifeless, so to speak, I've been able to pull more life out of my 81 81 set up than most people with EMG's. They do EQ a certain, and you have to get used to it, but so do passives.

But aside from that, I think the only reason TS was looking at EMG's was because he prolly heard that they are good pickups. But I still recommend the 12 pole single coil Dizmarizos over anything, they sound amazing, they almost act like a humbucker but sound exactly like a fender single coil.
#20
The EMG single coils sound OK by themselves. With an 18V mod they sound a LOT better. I'm guessing the new S(A)X versions also sound similarly better, but I haven't tried them yet. The old versions were really helped in terms of versatility by having some of the preamp modules - SPC and EXG were the ones Gilmour used I believe. That setup is good for a huge variety of tones.

The EMG T set is also excellent, but probably not of use to the OP.
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Quote by MrFlibble
The only other use they have on even the most boringly nerdy technical level is the wider frequency response that jazz players do so love. But that's only of use with a specific type of amp and is a use that clearly isn't what OP is intending nor is it something the majority of people on U-G will ever even remotely consider.

So no, in this context being a noiseless, high-output pickup is their only relevant use, both of which passive pickups can and will do better in this instance.


Not necessarily wider frequency response so much as flatter and more even, I'd say... there are tonal differences regardless.
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#22
Quote by MrFlibble
It's not like they were broken or anything. They just sounded crap. I ordered a Rebel Yell bridge humbucker and a Stormy Monday neck humbucker and honestly I couldn't tell any difference between them and the stock pickups the shitty guitar had in the first place. I sold them on to a mate who was doing a Warmoth at the time (for the record, he liked the pickups more than I did though he ended up replacing them too) and bought a Swinehsead Warthog and Condor instead (back when they were just £35 a pop - not £100 each like they are now) and as I said, I've had a lovely time ever since. I make no bones about it - Bare Knuckle pickups are the most expensive pickups I've ever bought and they're also the most non-descript, lifeless pickups I've ever used too outside of the stock pickups in an awful low-end Ibanez I once had. That's the level they were, to me. The stock pickups in my LTD SA-2 (which are just the generic stock ESP pickups) were no worse than the Bare Knuckles - and those Bare Knuckles cost me over £200. Sod that.

As a result I've ticked them off my list of top-price pickups to bother with. Right now I stick with Seymour Duncan as my basic cheaper brand, Swineshead when I want something really top-quality and Juicy when I want some one-off special made. Between those three I've got every base covered and I've not had a bad experience with any of them 'cept the SD Jazz and JB set, which were merely average (and at least didn't cost anywhere near as much as a pair of BKP costs).
Whilst I also do not understand the BKP love on these forums, I will however say that the BKPs that I've tried have generally been pretty solid, an acquaintance of mine has a set of unpotted Stormy Mondays w/ A4s in a '06 historic and I think they sound great. They're transparent and need to put in a good sounding guitar, but they're definitely at least as good as something like a set of Duncan Seth Lovers and compare pretty favorably to some other high end PAF winds like Wolfetones or RS Fralins.