#1
OK i cant order my 6505+ combo 112 becouse the shops in the nearby countries dont have it..

and the bogner alchemist combo is available to me NEW at really nice price which is like 800$(if im correct)

did anyone try it?is it good for Deftones,tool,inflames,killswitch,ratm etc stuff?
also is it too digital sounding?
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#2
Bogner, not bonger.
They are nice, expensive and hard to get a hold of.
That's all I know.
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#3
It's a good amp, but it really won't do any kind of metal without a boost. Not digital sounding at all though.
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#4
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As above, but I have a heard they can be a little unreliable.


yes they are "china-made " i believe.but that dosent matter really the important thing is i get a good tone.
#5
The only thing out of those it might be good for is Rage. It doesn't have enough gain/tightness for the others on its own.
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#6
How about a Bugera 6262 or 6260 or the triple x clone.is it worth buying some of this stuff or should i wait until the 6505+ is avaliable?
#7
I'd wait for the 6505 but the 6262 is a decent amp if you don't want to. Just make sure it has the warranty.
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#8
I Owned 1 You'll need a Boost for metal.....Change ot the Phase inverter It's a Med Gain 12AX7B it will help. The reason I let mine go the Cab rattled bad........Mine Could have just been a Bad one.
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#9
I don't know where people are getting the idea from that the Bogner Alchemist can't do Deftones? In Flames and Killswitch - maybe not, not without an overdrive pedal.

Let me find a clip on the net of a Bogner Alchemist.

It's not particularly digital sounding, no.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNbwvGJg3qU

If this isn't metal, I don't know what is.

It's more of a Soldano crunch - tight. Not a Peavey 6505/ENGL Fireball saturated mush.

Stick a second-hand Fulltone OCD in front of it and you'll really drive it to fucking max.
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#10
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I don't know where people are getting the idea from that the Bogner Alchemist can't do Deftones? In Flames and Killswitch - maybe not, not without an overdrive pedal.


I don't know how the tones in the second video were achieved. I spent literally an hour with the Alchemist at my local Best Buy, and I clearly remember it having even less gain than my Egnater. Maybe a tube change/front end boost? Regardless, it's a really nice amp.
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#11
I played an Alchemist head through a Bogner 2x12 and it had plenty of gain as above the one you tried must have had dud tubes or something. Maybe not death metal but plenty for most modern metal styles especially in the mix with a band
#13
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I played an Alchemist head through a Bogner 2x12 and it had plenty of gain as above the one you tried must have had dud tubes or something. Maybe not death metal but plenty for most modern metal styles especially in the mix with a band
Definitely in a band situation, the valves are working a lot harder and therefore clipping more. There are loads of clips online of people playing the Alchemist without a boost getting some nasty crunch tones.
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#14
I tried out a Bogner Alchemist 112 at the store and loved it. For that price, I would really consider buying it. It had plenty of gain on tap - Might want a boost for KSE/In Flames, but give it a try.
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I tried out a Bogner Alchemist 112 at the store and loved it.


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