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#1
Hey UG community.
I got tons of money this christmas....and what a musician is doing with lot of money?...THE BUY NEW AMPS/GUITARS ;P.Yeah I bought a LINE 6 POD X3 its damn cool...got tons of setting to play with ^^..no need to say its a HUUGE uppgrade since I had a crappy fender shit that I had since my beggining lol...my guitar is getting somehow old....I had it since I started to play wich was something like 3-4 years?it is a Godin model SD...its an EXCELLENT guitar for a starter but for metal playing its not the best right?So I decided to buy a new guitar soon...I'd have around 1500$in budget.I like the Gibson Les paul model,some V too...im mainly playing metal so I guess EMG's would be cool on it...anyways drop me a few advice on what kind of guitar I should take..thanks alot!
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Note:I dont need an amp/cab since I have a LINE6 POD X3....do some research before saying,GET THAT AMP because my POD X3 has over 100 amps in it and 70 cabs,all of them are high quality stuff like mesa boogie,5150 bla bla bla...look,I plug guitar in POD,which is plugged in my speakers which are good quality that works with distortion...
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#2
LTD EC-401 or EC-1000, with the new Peavey 6505 112 combo?

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#3
almost all guitars made by esp are great for metal, same with jackson, and most ibanezes
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#4
id get an esp because almost all esp ltd model guitars come fitted with two emg pickups. (batteries sold seperately)
#5
your budget doesnt really limit you at all. go to a shop and play some guitars and youre bound to find something good!
#6
I myself am buying an ibanez S5470 great guitar and falls right in your pricerange
#7
There is no definitive "best guitar" cause everything's so subjective yah-dah-yah-dah

Go to your nearest guitar store and play everything. At that price range the possibilities are copious, so try everything.

esp would be a good place to start though

I am partial to Musicman though
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#8
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There is no definitive "best guitar" cause everything's so subjective yah-dah-yah-dah

Go to your nearest guitar store and play everything. At that price range the possibilities are copious, so try everything.

esp would be a good place to start though

I am partial to Musicman though



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#9
Don't buy a gibson!
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#10
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Don't buy a gibson!


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Do not buy a Gibson!!!

You realy should find a Guitar which matches you!!
#11
EC-1000 IMO. And you'll have money left over. Don't get a Gibson.
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#12
Go play different guitars at a shop, pick the one that fits you best. I guess the named brands are a good bet and I'd like to add Schecter, Dean, BC Rich and if you want something more special look for Halo Guitars.

And... no Gibson. ;P
#13
I dont know if this was mentioned, but don't get a Gibson.

Oh wait..... .

Anyway, I had an LTD EC-1000 deluxe that was GREAT for Metal. Also take a look at Carvin...I recently scored a steal on one of their Ultra Vs, you can find them used for something like $600 and they sound FANTASTIC for metal. Alder + maple neck thru, etc. Nice and lightweight too. Here's mine:



Some of the best metal tone I've ever gotten, and the cleans SLAY too. Got a couple of crappy quality clips on my youtube as well:

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#14
ESP are pretty much perfect for metal, can you get a Horizon FRII for $1500?? maybe, its around that in the UK (£1500). but you'll need an amp as well and unless you want to try and find something on the used market i'd go for the 6505 combo, very very good for metal.
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#15
If you're using the Line 6 PODX3, don't buy a guitar with EMGs. I'd do what EndTheRapture51 said, and get an LTD EC-1000 and a Peavey 6505 112 combo. Without a tube amp, EMGs are pretty useless.
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#16
Get a gibson!!!

only joking with gibsons these days YOU have to decide if the one you are playing is worth it
#17
Schecter!

or save your money up another couple hundred and buy a mesa boogie amp, then you'll be metal
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#18
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Don't buy a gibson!



and why shouldn't a gibson be bought? cause youre an idiot who doesnt have a clue?


don't hop on stupid gibson hating bandwagons. gibson is a perfect guitar for metal. id also look into jackson, fender, and reverened guitars.


those grands wont really have emgs in them so you might be surprised at how you dont need an active pick up. gibson has the wylde signature models that have emgs in them so try those out.
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#19
I'd look into a Gibson SG or Explorer... great base for a metal guitar. You don't need EMGs for great metal tones... hot humbuckers are great. That way, you can also preserve more natural sounding clean tones. I in no way mean to discourage you from buying an EMG equipped guitar, but you shouldn't discount Gibson or any other brands that don't come with active pickups stock.

My best guess for a metal guitar would be:

-Mahogany Body (for a darker tone)
-Jackson styled neck? ("faster" than other necks, but its up to you. I prefer fat lespaul necks)
-Hot Humbuckers or Active pickups
-Original Floyd Rose /w locking nut (if you're into whammy bars... if not, just get a fixed bridge)

I dunno if my information is helping you, but that's what I find most commonly with most "metal" guitars.
#20
Quote by Superstrat101
I'd look into a Gibson SG or Explorer... great base for a metal guitar. You don't need EMGs for great metal tones... hot humbuckers are great. That way, you can also preserve more natural sounding clean tones. I in no way mean to discourage you from buying an EMG equipped guitar, but you shouldn't discount Gibson or any other brands that don't come with active pickups stock.

My best guess for a metal guitar would be:

-Mahogany Body (for a darker tone)
-Jackson styled neck? ("faster" than other necks, but its up to you. I prefer fat lespaul necks)
-Hot Humbuckers or Active pickups
-Original Floyd Rose /w locking nut (if you're into whammy bars... if not, just get a fixed bridge)

I dunno if my information is helping you, but that's what I find most commonly with most "metal" guitars.



alder is also good but your pretty much on the money here
#22
Carvin. You could get a pretty tricked out guitar for that much money, and the quality IMO will far exceed anything else in that price range.
#23
^ I tend to agree

Even if you look into the real nice ESP's and Ibanez's (etc) chances are you won't find exactly what you want, and that's not including the finish, which you can never really expect to be exactly what you want on a shelf guitar. But if you want a reverse headstocked alder bodied H-H with passives for example, good luck with an off the shelfer.
#24
Have a look at the higher end Jacksons (RR5, RR24 ect.) and also ESP. For 1500$ you will be able the buy a great guitar.
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#25
get an 1958 explorer and rock out like skiwsgar\M/

or get any jackson they are all great from 400$and up
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#26
DUDE BUY AN ESP/LTD DELUXE SERIES!...check em' out in the esp home page...they are around $1000 depends on the model...YOU WILL BE AMAZED!!!
#27
You could take a look at a second hand Caparison.

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#29
Quote by Crohny
and why shouldn't a gibson be bought? cause youre an idiot who doesnt have a clue?


don't hop on stupid gibson hating bandwagons. gibson is a perfect guitar for metal. id also look into jackson, fender, and reverened guitars.


those grands wont really have emgs in them so you might be surprised at how you dont need an active pick up. gibson has the wylde signature models that have emgs in them so try those out.

Amen!

Edit: Won't get much Gibson for 1500 dollars unless he goes used though.
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#30
I think what everyone is getting at is gibsons aren't that metal. The pickups are "vintage" style for the most part and they lack the features that many modern metal geared guitars have.
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You could take a look at a second hand Caparison.


Yes yes I should.

Anyway ****ing lol to this thread, **** it cracks me up hard.

TS what do you want in the guitar?
What type of bridge?
How many frets?
What type of neck joint?
What pickup layout?
What woods?
Anything else?

Quote by Zmatt
I think what everyone is getting at is gibsons aren't that metal. The pickups are "vintage" style for the most part and they lack the features that many modern metal geared guitars have.


Pickup change mofo, and features missing? Well I'm pretty sure Gibson did produce some super strat styled guitars back in the 80's or 90's with a Kahler and have produced the M-III model with floyd rose so no Gibson aren't really lacking in the feature departments if you know what you're on about.
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#33
I'd go for a used Ernie Ball Petrucci Sig (JP6). I have never played a bad one, so this is one of the only guitars I'd be willing to buy sight-unseen.

It also holds resale value really well when bought used.
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#34
Quote by azn_guitarist25

Pickup change mofo, and features missing? Well I'm pretty sure Gibson did produce some super strat styled guitars back in the 80's or 90's with a Kahler and have produced the M-III model with floyd rose so no Gibson aren't really lacking in the feature departments if you know what you're on about.


Why would you buy a guitar that you have to change the pickups in when you can buy one that is just as good that has the pickups you want? And I don't think Gibson currently produces anything that modern. I haven't seen any new gibsons with emgs and floyds with low profile necks, but then again I don't keep up with that kind of thing. I also understand that Gibsons are overpriced.

Gibsons aren't bad, but for his needs he can certainly do better. Jackson, ESP, Ibanez and a host of others provide a much better selection of guitars that meet his needs in his price range.

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I'd go for a used Ernie Ball Petrucci Sig (JP6). I have never played a bad one, so this is one of the only guitars I'd be willing to buy sight-unseen.

It also holds resale value really well when bought used.



I've played one, it's pretty amazing. The level of playability over my strat was incredible and the pickups were fantastic.
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Why would you buy a guitar that you have to change the pickups in when you can buy one that is just as good that has the pickups you want? And I don't think Gibson currently produces anything that modern. I haven't seen any new gibsons with emgs and floyds with low profile necks, but then again I don't keep up with that kind of thing. I also understand that Gibsons are overpriced.

Gibsons aren't bad, but for his needs he can certainly do better. Jackson, ESP, Ibanez and a host of others provide a much better selection of guitars that meet his needs in his price range.


Why would I buy a guitar that I have to change pickups in? Err probably because I dislike them, you know pickups are interchangeable for a reason right?

As for Gibson being non-metal well they've just put up a big middle finger to everyone who said so

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Explorer/Gibson-USA/Tribal-Explorer.aspx
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Flying-V/Gibson-USA/Tribal-V.aspx
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Flying-V/Gibson-Custom/Zakk-Wylde-ZV-Bullseye.aspx
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Explorer/Gibson-USA/7-String-Explorer.aspx

If you're trying to say you won't be able to play metal on those guitars well then I've got words for you but I just better not put it on here.

Gibson being over priced well yeah but then again if you're comparing Gibson prices to Carvin prices then ESP guitars would also be over priced but honestly who gives a shit if you do your research and are prepared to pay for it then who can tell you not to buy an instrument.

Oh yes I'll agree as for better stuff out there but I'm just saying everyone who says Gibson aren't metal are just being bandwagoning douchebags who don't ever bother to look at the Gibson website.
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FWIW, the law of diminishing returns is very evident with solid body electric guitars. The only way I would drop $1500 on a guitar is by going the full custom route from an independent builder or perhaps Carvin.......simply no way I would spend that kind of money on a production model.

There are simply way too many good guitars at the $500-600 price point with SD's or EMG's to justify spending 3X's the amount:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--SCEC1CL
http://www.zzounds.com/item--SCEDVLCST
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Washburn-WI66PRO-Nick-Catanese-Electric-Guitar.html
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Washburn-X50-Pro-FE-Electric-Guitar-Flamed-Top-Trans-Black.html
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/jackson-dk2m-dinky-snow-white-guitar.html
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Schecter-Tempest-Blackjack-Electric-Guitar.html
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Esp-Ltd-EC1000-White-Electric-Guitar.html
#38
Quote by webwarmiller
FWIW, the law of diminishing returns is very evident with solid body electric guitars. The only way I would drop $1500 on a guitar is by going the full custom route from an independent builder or perhaps Carvin.......simply no way I would spend that kind of money on a production model.

There are simply way too many good guitars at the $500-600 price point with SD's or EMG's to justify spending 3X's the amount:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--SCEC1CL
http://www.zzounds.com/item--SCEDVLCST
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Washburn-WI66PRO-Nick-Catanese-Electric-Guitar.html
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Washburn-X50-Pro-FE-Electric-Guitar-Flamed-Top-Trans-Black.html
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/jackson-dk2m-dinky-snow-white-guitar.html
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Schecter-Tempest-Blackjack-Electric-Guitar.html
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/Esp-Ltd-EC1000-White-Electric-Guitar.html


I wouldn't say that much. $1500 opens up a lot more options for production models and such. While I would always recommend Warmoth and Carvin, they don't really have great resale value. If you planned on reselling a production guitar from a good company, then you can get more money from what you paid for.

Quote by Zmatt
Why would you buy a guitar that you have to change the pickups in when you can buy one that is just as good that has the pickups you want? And I don't think Gibson currently produces anything that modern. I haven't seen any new gibsons with emgs and floyds with low profile necks, but then again I don't keep up with that kind of thing. I also understand that Gibsons are overpriced.

Gibsons aren't bad, but for his needs he can certainly do better. Jackson, ESP, Ibanez and a host of others provide a much better selection of guitars that meet his needs in his price range.


You don't need EMGs or a Floyd on a metal guitar, or a thin neck. So Gibson doesn't have to cater to those needs as there are plenty of metal players who play on a Gibson. However, they did (as mentioned by azn_guitarist) that they have made a floyd equipped model, and a model with EMGs. The 60s neck profile is thinner than their 50s neck profile, and if it's still too thick for a player, you can have the neck shaved down till it's thin enough for your needs.
#39
Quote by SevenMetal
Hey UG community.
Note:I dont need an amp/cab since I have a LINE6 POD X3....do some research before saying,GET THAT AMP because my POD X3 has over 100 amps in it and 70 cabs,all of them are high quality stuff like mesa boogie,5150 bla bla bla...look,I plug guitar in POD,which is plugged in my speakers which are good quality that works with distortion...



but seriously, my personal choice would be an Ibanez s5470
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#40
"The 60s neck profile is thinner than their 50s neck profile, and if it's still too thick for a player, you can have the neck shaved down till it's thin enough for your needs."

And the resale value on that guitar would be?
They're already way too expensive for what you're *ACTUALLY* getting in a guitar, why pay MORE money for a mod that is going to make your monetary investment take a nosedive?
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