#1
Me and my sister were watching T.V. and she puts on that show "To Catch A Predator". I told her to change it because I really don't like that show. She asked me why I don't like it. And I just said "I dunno, it just makes me sad watching people get completely humiliated on national television." I'm not against the show or anything, I just can't help but feel that way when I watch it. She said that they deserve it because they're dirty old pedophiles.

I've always sort of had sympathy for people a lot of people think should rot in hell. I mean, when I watch "To Catch A Predator" I always feel bad for the pedophile. I'm in no way saying that I don't think what they're doing is okay. I think it's wrong.

I'm not saying I feel bad for all pedophiles or anything, but it was like this episode of Law And Order I saw where the detectives try to get this one guy who murdered a couple of women. They couldn't arrest him because they didn't have enough evidence, so one detective offers to buys him lunch and just hangs out with him to see if he fits the type of guy that would do the crime. He learns that the guy lives alone, is very depressed, extremely socially awkward, desperate for female companionship, etc. They arrest him and everyone like the detective's partner, boss, district attorney want the death penalty, but the detective feels sympathy for him and doesn't think he deserves to die. So in interrogation he asks him questions and talks to him until he confesses and breaks down crying and he gives a heartfelt apology. Apparently in New York if that happens, you'll get a life sentence instead of the Death Penalty.

Anyways, do you guys also feel any sympathy towards people like pedophiles or murderers? I'm not saying I feel sympathy towards all people like that. For instance I don't feel sympathy for Hitler (so no Godwin's law in this thread), Albert Fish, or terrorists, but a lot of the time, I think about what could have driven people to do what they did, and I can't help but feel bad for them.
#2
I'd never heard of this show until now but I see this post as a confession. Where have you hidden the kids?
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#3
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I'd never heard of this show until now but I see this post as a confession. Where have you hidden the kids?

Don't be silly.

He's obviously murdered someone, why else would he instead make pedophilia the main example instead?
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#4
This is a very touchy subject, but if the punishment bought down by the law system is worse than the crime, ie mentally screwing with them, then it makes the whole thing a bit pointless.
...In my opinion.
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#7
I see what you mean, dude.
I feel the same way as you sometimes, even though I know they did horrible things.
And then I wonder if they were framed or something, and that makes it worse.
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#8
Thank you. Compassion for pedofiles isn't something that should be totally frowned upon. Let the legal system reform where necessary - humiliation on television is surplus.
#9
I like watching the peds get busted.
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#10
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Don't be silly.

He's obviously murdered someone, why else would he instead make pedophilia the main example instead?

Ah I see, I was just expecting him to make a new thread along the lines of
"So, my friend (who is totally not me) has kidnapped these kids right?..."
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#11
"I feel bad for them but I don't...but I do, but I don't"

Seriously dude make up your mind, no one likes to get raped or murdered.
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#13
That show is ridiculous and anyone with a conscience would feel a little uncomfortable watching it. It's funnysometimes, and I guess we should all be happy that predators are being caught, but the end doesn't justify the means. When they call that organization perverted justice, they don't know how right they are.
#14
I sometimes feel sorry for murderers, to be honest. Quite frankly, there are some people that I wouldn't mind seeing being wiped off the planet. And who hasn't wanted to kill someone before? We all know the feeling.

I can understand why you would feel sorry for pedos, honestly. I mean, I'm sure they're all pretty ashamed of what they do anyway. Our justice system is supposed to protect us from cruel and unusual punishment, which is exactly what this is. Stick them in jail, hang them, whatever. Just don't turn it into entertainment. That's when things get twisted.
#17
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"I feel bad for them but I don't...but I do, but I don't"

Seriously dude make up your mind, no one likes to get raped or murdered.
1. I don't think people like getting raped or murdered.

2. I feel bad for a lot of them, not all of them. Mainly the ones who are mentally ill or have been through a lot of sh*t in their life, or are very remorseful of what they've done.

3. I still think it's wrong what they're doing.
#18
Here's something about that show, are the paedophiles signing release forms to show their faces on TV?
#19
Yeah, I've got sympathy for quite a few "devils" but I can't be really assed with a massive debate over it. And that's what this thread will descend into
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2. I feel bad for a lot of them, not all of them. Mainly the ones who are mentally ill or have been through a lot of sh*t in their life, or are very remorseful of what they've done.


There are quite a few people on that show that are obviously mentally handicapped, I mean IQs so low they probably qualify as MR. One fella got caught on the show a second time and you could tell he had the mind of an 8 year old at max.

There are also quite a few foreign people from cultures where having sex with a 14 year old (especially one that's fully mature as the decoy model always really looks 18 or older) isn't frowned upon at all. Yeah these people are aware of the laws, or should be. But they're not really perverts so much as folks who grew up under a different set of moral standards.
#21
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Here's something about that show, are the paedophiles signing release forms to show their faces on TV?


They must be or they wouldn't be seen on tv? You know they don't show 75% of the busts---the ones that people don't get tricked into airing or the ones where they don't all lie down like Chris Hansen's Bitch Dateline is obviously controlling what we see to create some funny stereotype and there's no way most of the pedos there act like the ones they show.
#22
actually at first I thought the show was fun to watch and they never actually told you the conversation between the "decoy" and the ped. I just watched some youtube videos of the newer episodes and I have to admit that is bull$hit. They are literally baiting these people in by making sexual innuendos and being extremely flirty. It's illegal for me to bait an animal so I can kill and eat it but it's legal to bait a human being, arrest them and make an a$$ out of them on national television and possibly ruin their lives??

I am in no way, shape or form agreeing with sex with minors or any form of pedophilia but come on now we all know that a female reaches her physical peak (appearance wise) anywhere from 14-18 and after that its all survival and usually goes down hill lol. You take a young twenty year old KID with raging hormones that hasn't been laid in 3 years put him in a chat room where you have some tight bodied 14 or 15 year old flirting up a storm with him I mean come on. Chris Hansons old wrinkly a$$ would be all over that if he knew he'd get away with it too.
#23
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#24
My sympathy really depends on who the person is. If it's a scum bag soliciting a minor for sex and god knows what, then yea.. I hope he burns in hell...

but the mentally handicapped and those from other cultures need special consideration..
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actually at first I thought the show was fun to watch and they never actually told you the conversation between the "decoy" and the ped. I just watched some youtube videos of the newer episodes and I have to admit that is bull$hit. They are literally baiting these people in by making sexual innuendos and being extremely flirty. It's illegal for me to bait an animal so I can kill and eat it but it's legal to bait a human being, arrest them and make an a$$ out of them on national television and possibly ruin their lives??

I am in no way, shape or form agreeing with sex with minors or any form of pedophilia but come on now we all know that a female reaches her physical peak (appearance wise) anywhere from 14-18 and after that its all survival and usually goes down hill lol. You take a young twenty year old KID with raging hormones that hasn't been laid in 3 years put him in a chat room where you have some tight bodied 14 or 15 year old flirting up a storm with him I mean come on. Chris Hansons old wrinkly a$$ would be all over that if he knew he'd get away with it too.



??? Tight bodied 14-15 year old.. where are you from ??
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#26
i dunno, i feel bad for hitler and terrorists. theyre people too, they just have/had some skewed beliefs and ideologies. i feel bad that they were so jaded that killing innocent people seemed right to them. its a sad story.


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Here's something about that show, are the paedophiles signing release forms to show their faces on TV?


probably not (why would they ever sign the releases?). im sure its the same with the show COPS. since they broke the law and are considered a criminal, id be willing to bet that they dont need releases because their crimes are considered public information.

those shows most certainly cross the line between public information and exploitation for profit though.
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#27
The thread title made me think of this quote: "But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner who needed it most?"
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I feel bad for a lot of criminals. A lot of them are only in prison because they grew up around crime or had otherwise rotten childhoods and life experiences. Some of them probably wouldn't even be in prison if it society didn't deem their lifestyles taboo.
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actually at first I thought the show was fun to watch and they never actually told you the conversation between the "decoy" and the ped. I just watched some youtube videos of the newer episodes and I have to admit that is bull$hit. They are literally baiting these people in by making sexual innuendos and being extremely flirty. It's illegal for me to bait an animal so I can kill and eat it but it's legal to bait a human being, arrest them and make an a$$ out of them on national television and possibly ruin their lives??

I am in no way, shape or form agreeing with sex with minors or any form of pedophilia but come on now we all know that a female reaches her physical peak (appearance wise) anywhere from 14-18 and after that its all survival and usually goes down hill lol. You take a young twenty year old KID with raging hormones that hasn't been laid in 3 years put him in a chat room where you have some tight bodied 14 or 15 year old flirting up a storm with him I mean come on. Chris Hansons old wrinkly a$$ would be all over that if he knew he'd get away with it too.


Aye. In a normal criminal "string", this sort of thing would be entrapment, and any evidence gained through it would be inadmissable.
#29
One minute I hate them and want to slice their dick off for the horrible things they've done, but then I think about it and feel terribly sad for them.
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actually at first I thought the show was fun to watch and they never actually told you the conversation between the "decoy" and the ped. I just watched some youtube videos of the newer episodes and I have to admit that is bull$hit. They are literally baiting these people in by making sexual innuendos and being extremely flirty. It's illegal for me to bait an animal so I can kill and eat it but it's legal to bait a human being, arrest them and make an a$$ out of them on national television and possibly ruin their lives??

I am in no way, shape or form agreeing with sex with minors or any form of pedophilia but come on now we all know that a female reaches her physical peak (appearance wise) anywhere from 14-18 and after that its all survival and usually goes down hill lol. You take a young twenty year old KID with raging hormones that hasn't been laid in 3 years put him in a chat room where you have some tight bodied 14 or 15 year old flirting up a storm with him I mean come on. Chris Hansons old wrinkly a$$ would be all over that if he knew he'd get away with it too.


Yeah, I agree. Except for the last sentance.

If they believe a 14 or 15 year old gives consent, why is it such a terrible thing? Sure, they're a year or two below the legal age, but what is the big difference between 15 and 16? The way I see it, this show completely sets people up. Are they pedophiles? Probably not. They aren't luring children with candy, they're trying to have consenting sex with people who would be legal in a year's time anyway. Do I agree with them? No, I don't at all. But I understand that doing this to a person and then selling it as entertainment is more than a little sick.

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#31
I think it's hard to hate someone when you haven't experienced their crimes firsthand. Maybe it's because the police seem more aggresive that makes us look at them as the "bad guys". I see what you mean though, I feel the same way sometimes.
#32
i feel bad for how their lives must have been, and what was goin through their minds
#33
I don't think Charles Manson is any worse than George Bush. Sometimes I feel bad that he's going to die in prison, but I cannot decide whether I think his punishment befits his crimes. A lot of what he says in his interviews is very accurate, too, if you can step over the fact that he's got a silver tongue. I mean, even if they do let him out, everyone just thinks he's crazy and wouldn't take him seriously.

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#34
Pedophiles and murderers are still people, too. Every single person in this thread has done something at one point or another that some people would find morally questionable. I bet you don't think YOU deserve to have that shown on national television.

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If they believe a 14 or 15 year old gives consent, why is it such a terrible thing? Sure, they're a year or two below the legal age, but what is the big difference between 15 abd 16? The way I see it, this show completely sets people up. Are they pedophiles? Probably not. They aren't luring children with candy, they're trying to have consenting sex with people who would be legal in a year's time anyway. Do I agree with them? No, I don't at all. But I understand that doing this to a person and then selling it is entertainment is more than a little sick.

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#35
While I don't feel bad for rapist's that get registered as sex offenders for the rest of their life, I do feel bad for someone who gets caught "sexting", and gets registered as a sex offender for the rest of their life. Or gets it on with his girlfriend, and get's reported for rape by the girl's parents, even though it was completely consensual, and gets registered as a sex offender for the rest of their life.
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#36
Sometimes. Like when I witnessed in a trial against two guys who had raped a minor. They both looked so fucking ruined, and I couldn't help but feel sorry for them and their destroyed lifes.

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While I don't feel bad for rapist's that get registered as sex offenders for the rest of their life, I do feel bad for someone who gets caught "sexting", and gets registered as a sex offender for the rest of their life. Or gets it on with his girlfriend, and get's reported for rape by the girl's parents, even though it was completely consensual, and gets registered as a sex offender for the rest of their life.

That's practically the same thing as what we're currently discussing.
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