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#1
I have had a Les Paul for around 2 years. I can play fairly fast. However, I keep reading people saying, " if you want to play fast you need a guitar that is fast, with a thin, flat neck etc..." Is this true? I have small hands, so would getting a guitar that has a thinner, flat neck, help me play a little faster? I am kinda lost on this subject.
#2
It's all about preference.
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#3
i can say for myself that i like my necks as thin as possible.
i have rather small hands and play mostly in classical position, so a thinner neck keeps my fingers closer to the fretboard.

but thats personal preference
#4
Some necks just feel better in your hands, that you can play faster not, I can only play so fast, and it does´nt matter which guitar I´m using my PRS or my RG 1550 which probably has the best neck in the world on it, I still cant play faster.
#5
was discussing this today, its all about what you get used to i think.. if you have been playing for that long on that neck you might find a thin neck difficult, i know i do when i change over from fat to thin
its all preference though
#6
if its too thin your hand will get cramped, same as too thick. I'd go for somewhere in the middle but a bit on the thinner side

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#7
It's just about what fits your hand. Ultimately, a guitar is only as good as it's player.
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#8
I find it easier to keep a technically correct hand and wrist position on a thin neck such as that on my Ibanez however I cant play faster on the Ibanez compared to my PRS or Epi LP and they have more traditional neck profiles.
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#9
Strat neck > other necks

but that'S just me.
Some people like LP necks.
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#10
well, I prefer the neck on my cheap lp to that of an ibanez prestige . . . so ya know
it's all down to preferance
I can play just as fast on both necks and I like the prestige neck, just my lp feels alot more comfortable than the ibby (and schecter necks just make me cream tbh)
thick round necks > thin flat necks!
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#13
if you get a guitar with a really thin neck (like an ibanez or so) after you've gotten used to it i think that it might be a bit easier to play and to move your hand around the fretboard.
#14
Generally a thin neck is considered faster because there's less wood in the way to slow your hand down. The flipside is that playing chords for an extended period is agony as you get cramp a lot easier. I've become used to the thin neck on my RGT42 and I now find it almost impossible to play a guitar with a thick neck. Having said that, I don't have any desire for an even thinner neck. That Ibanez RG3620Z seems to have a ludicrously thin neck!
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#15
It's personal preference really. I prefer a thicker, more rounded neck. To me, the thickness of the neck doesn't determine speed. That's more something that's determined by the action, I'd think.
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#17
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+1

Also the Action is critical. A good setup makes it easier and faster to fret notes.
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#19
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It's preference. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.


touche. There are great players who play fast with LP, strat, ibanez, tele, u name it. Comfort is where fast comes from. U cant play fast in a neck that is pain to hold. At least not for long
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#20
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It's preference. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.

this.

I hate thin necks. they make it harder for me to fret notes properly so i play badly on them and my hand starts to ache very very fast. sure, that's my problem and not the guitar's fault, but i have no such problems when playing guitars with baseball bat necks.. even though i have quite small hands. But other people like thin necks and hate the baseball bats... to each his own.
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#21
Whatever works for a given player is fine. I like slightly oversize necks - thin gets uncomfortable after a couple of sets. As far as being fast, speed is mostly in the picking hand anyways, so fast necks are mostly a myth. But big, well crowned frets do tend to make it a little easier to fret quickly.
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#23
I think Alvin Lee would doubt that you need a super slim neck for speed. He played a 335 and was lightning fast.
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#25
Now lets talk fast necks, there is a difference between thin and fast necks.
#26
Faster necks tend to have the strings closer together and have mass between the back of the neck and the top of the fingerboard. Also, ridiculously small necks can make big hands cramp up.

It's funny - I prefer playing chords on my Ibanez's neck, but sweeping feels more comfortable on my Strat. Weird, huh?
#27
You'll hear that it's all about preference when it comes to these kinda things, and it really is. I have small hands, and I play better and faster on a thin neck vs. a medium to thick neck.
#28
its defiantly about preference, i personally find thin necks hard work and uncomfortable to play, but i can play pretty fast on my guitars which all have a pretty wide thick profile to them all.

hell if johnny hiland can play fast on his paul reed smith, its possible for others to do it with a little practice

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#29
I play fastest on my LP.
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#31
ESP Necks are no doubt my favorite, Don't like Ibanez anymore after playing the ESP. Like already metioned it's just your hand size and everyone has a preference to what kind of neck they like. I prefer a slim C neck. While the Ibanez are more like a D.
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#32
Well guys, I am considering getting a Jackson RR1, as Randy Rhoads is my all time idol. Would coming from a 60's style Les Paul to a Jackson RR1 be a drastic change? I've yet to see a RR1 in person to play it.
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#33
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It's all about preference.



right off the bat a solid post. go to a local guitar store and play some thinner neck guitars. i cant go any thinner than the neck that the gibson V has. anything thinner and my hand literally starts to hurt within a couple of minutes. ive never had a problem playing fast on LP necks. try out a bunch of different guitars and see what suits YOU best.
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#34
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right off the bat a solid post. go to a local guitar store and play some thinner neck guitars. i cant go any thinner than the neck that the gibson V has. anything thinner and my hand literally starts to hurt within a couple of minutes. ive never had a problem playing fast on LP necks. try out a bunch of different guitars and see what suits YOU best.

This is the long version. Again, QFT.

I personally can go as thin as I want - I just change my hand position. Thicker necks, I wrap my hand around. Thinner, I play in classical position.

Anyway - It's a very different feel, TS. RR1's have the typical Jackson neck - thin, but rounded. Gibson '60s necks aren't exactly boatneck-sized, but they're not tiny either.
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#35
I use a Jackson most of the time but just got a Tele and it seems just as fast, just different.
#36
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This is the long version. Again, QFT.

I personally can go as thin as I want - I just change my hand position. Thicker necks, I wrap my hand around. Thinner, I play in classical position.

Anyway - It's a very different feel, TS. RR1's have the typical Jackson neck - thin, but rounded. Gibson '60s necks aren't exactly boatneck-sized, but they're not tiny either.



oh it could be longer. 60s necks feel super comfortable though. theyre like the happy medium for me. my V is the shredder guitar for sure. stuff is effortless on it, but when i play my SG stuff fels more solid and in control. its weird but i dig it.
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#37
I know what you mean, My Epi LP has a neck not unlike a '60s neck. Very comfy neck. My other guitar basically has an ESP "Thin U" shaped neck. Not super thin, but very fast.
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#38
I can shred on a Les Paul neck or even on the necks of old russian acoustic guitars. But it's not how fast you can shred on a fast neck - it's how long you can do it. It takes noticeably less effort to shred an Ibanez Prestige neck than to shred on soviet 'Semistrunka'. But there is a reason why I don't play those anarexic thin necks. They give me the cramps. But again those are personal preferances.
#39
I play best on a medium neck, I've got quite big hands so can't play rea\lly thin necks. It's all down to prefference.
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#40
I think there comes a point where neck profiles don't hinder a person's playing as much but people will always have preferences for neck size and the like. When I was starting out, I could never play on a big neck, it felt foreign to me so I shied away from them and never thought I'd like or play as well on a big neck. Now, I only play big necks.

That's not to say that neck profiles don't matter when you're a good player. But as for thin necks = faster playing goes, I think it's mostly a misconception. Most people who shred use thinner necks which would lead some to people that maybe it's required to play fast. That's just my thought on the matter though.
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