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#81
Just hard wire it and be done with all this quick connect crap.

My set was all quick connect and it was such a pain in the ass, so I had it all soldered except for the pick up it self. leave that one and then you can always swap a new EMG in without having to un-solder anything.
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Jackson RR24M - EMG ALX w/ ABQ installed
Ibanez Xiphos - stock
LTD Alexi 600 - stock
Ibanex RG - Tone Zone(bridge), PAF Pro(neck)
Blackstar HT-20H
Fulltone OCD
MXR 10 Band EQ
#82
What about this Zakk Wylde pro set? How it it any different from just an 81 and an 85, it seems to cost the same?

By the way, nice thread, very informative and all that.
Last edited by Mad Marius at Mar 18, 2010,
#84
Quote by zakkwyldefan79
There is nothing special about the Zakk Wylde set anymore. It's just the regular 81 and 85 pickups. The older Zakk Wylde sets came with 2 sets of pots, long shaft and short shaft. Now it only comes with one set.
But it says Zakk Wylde on the package!
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#85
I have an active single coil in the neck of my guitar, as well as the middle position. I recently adjusted the height of them and changed the springs that where in place.

Now the neck one squeels when any gain is added, but the middle on is still fine. What might be wrong, or what can i check?
#86
So where would EMGs be best suited? I have the option of putting them in either a Les Paul or a HSH Strat (which i'll be converting to HH anyway).
#87
I would say it depends on which guitar is of worse quality due to pre-amp ( but also to which you're more likely to do shred on)


BTW: I have the ZW set Haven't installed yet.


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#88
Quote by JamesLPs
I would say it depends on which guitar is of worse quality due to pre-amp ( but also to which you're more likely to do shred on)


BTW: I have the ZW set Haven't installed yet.


I'm afraid I'm not following. What does the quality of the guitar have to do with this? Also, it's not necessarily for shredding, it's more for metal.
#89
Well the pre-amp makes the wood less important as it's already got most if its tone so it doesn't take as much from the wood - and well for chord/rhythm playing i'd use them in the lp, for lead/shread i'd use in strat.


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#90
I have to remove my pickguard everytime i change my batteries. It would be much easier if I could find a sideload battery box(18v), vertical wont fit. where can i find such a thing?
#91
Hello, I'm using the 85 81 solderless emg set and could do with some help.

The diagrams given with emgs are a bit vague..

My main concern is the switch and control buss - mainly about the wires coming from my switch to the buss - has anyone got any advice for me?

What I mainly need to know is when the pickup wires go to the buss does they ground do with the output - if not what do i do with the output?



Hope this helps you help me


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#92
soooo, I've been looking into my options for wiring two EMG 35's into my new bass...I think what I've decided to do is for each pickup have a volume and tone that operates independently, I'm also going to do the 18volt mod.

I'm all set for wiring the volum/pull switches, and I understand how to wire the two batteries in...I could use some help/explanation as to how to connect the two tones to the jack area, as well as how to connect the two pickup outputs???? After looking at some diagrams, I saw a few that had the black wire run from one tone control into the other tone and then into the jack...but does that still allow them to operate independently for their respective pickup??? and then do i just twist the two bridge output wires together??? thanks for the help so much!! sorry if this is general knowledge...I tried hard to learn on my own lol!
#93
Hey zakkwyldefan79 I'm thinking of customizing my epiphone LP custom. I'm thinking of changing my pickups into emg actives. Any views on this? Is it worth doing it? My Lp costs round 920 bucks. And I'm thinking of changing into the zw signature set. Any advice?
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#94
Yeah, it's worth doing. I've got the Zakk set in my Epi goth Explorer and I love them. I also think you should do the 18v mod. The new sets are solderless so it should be pretty easy to install them. If you have any problems just post here and we'll try to figure them out.
#95
Quote by zakkwyldefan79
The 18 Volt Mod:


This mod works for EMG's but not Seymour Duncan Blackouts. The Chief Engineer, Kevin Beller, Says that Blackouts will not be harmed using 18-volts, but the preamp is designed to provide all of the awesomeness at 9 volts. This mod does work on Seymour Duncan Livewire pickups (wiring diagrams on SD's site confirm this).


What you really need:

9 Volt battery clip
9 Volt battery
Wire strippers
Electrical tape or shrink tubing
Soldering Iron

Standard 18v Mod:
What to do:
Make sure you have enough room in your cavity for two batteries!
1. Disconnect 9 volt battery.
2. Desolder the black wire where it's circled.
3. Connect the black wire of your new clip to the lug on the jack where the black wire was.
4. Connect the red wire of your new clip to the black wire of your old clip.
5. Insulate with electrical tape or shrink tubing.
6. Attach two new 9 volt batteries, put the cover back on and enjoy.


Reversible 18v Mod:
You can also do this mod without modding your current wiring at all. To do it this way you'll need 3 more battery clips. Wire the black wire from clip #2 to the red wire from clip #1. Wire the red wire from clip #2 to the black wire from clip #3. Wire the red wire from clip #3 to the black wire from clip #1. Tape or use shrink tubing on all connections. Then snap clip #1 to your original clip already in your guitar. Then connect the batteries to clips #2 & #3 and you're done. See pic below.


Wiring with Switch:
(Switch position in picture indicates 9 volt position)


Also, you can use a DPDT to put the two batteries in parallel for equal battery life when in 9V mode.
Here's how to wire it.




ok, with this mod, is it safe with the PA-2 pre-amp? and secondly, what does this mod do, exactly, in terms of sound?
#96
Quote by JamesLPs
I would say it depends on which guitar is of worse quality due to pre-amp ( but also to which you're more likely to do shred on)


BTW: I have the ZW set Haven't installed yet.


from what I understand, the quality of the guitar has NOTHING to do with changing out pups. Putting EMG's in a "synsonic's" brand guitar is fine, as long as you intend on spending the money to mod such a guitar. But, in earnest, most people would actually spend the money to mod such a guitar, but the mods DO, in fact, make the guitar a better guitar, in terms of sound and performance-wise. So, long story short, upgrading a shit-sounding guitar is the best way to make it better! =)
#97
charles_ebarb, It is safe to the 18v mod with the PA-2. As far as how it changes the sound, it's kinda hard to explain. It just makes them sound a little more like a passive pickup. Some people say "organic". I think it helps the cleans on the 85 the most. You should try it using this method.

That way, if you don't like it, it's easy to switch back. It's easy and cheap. Trying it yourself is really the only way to find out if YOU like it or not.
Last edited by zakkwyldefan79 at Aug 4, 2010,
#98
hey got anymore info on those guitarheads pickups???


they seem like a good alternative for my broke ass! lmao
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#100
hey! i was thinking about putting emg 81 and 85 in my gfs explorer that im making sexy. does this sound like a good idea? or does anyone have a better suggestion? also whats up with all this quick connect stuff? seems like the pup would just pull off mid performance if u got to br00tal or something... idk but i only trust hard wiring..... can anyone vouch for quick connect?
#102
Anyone know if you can connect a SD AHB-1 Blackout using the emg solderless system? i'm pretty sure it will work and since i screwed up soldering my first time trying it i figured i would just get the quick connect system and practice soldering on a cheap guitar i have.
My equipment:
Jackson JS30RR FR (w/ SD AHB-1 in bridge)
Peavey Ultra 112
Digitech RP350
Dunlop KH95 Crybaby
Ibanez XPT700
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#104
Quote by zakkwyldefan79
Yeah the solderless stuff should work with Blackouts too. The 3 pins on the back of EMGs & Blackouts are the same, so I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.


That's what i thought, oh well i'll buy the solderless system and wire it up and see how it works.

Edit: Turns out it works just fine
My equipment:
Jackson JS30RR FR (w/ SD AHB-1 in bridge)
Peavey Ultra 112
Digitech RP350
Dunlop KH95 Crybaby
Ibanez XPT700
ISP Decimator
Last edited by Trickle7052 at Jul 27, 2010,
#105
Just a question: is it possible to use a "custom" tone capacitor with the new EMG solderless pickups? I've seen that there is a normal wire that goes from the passive volume to the passive tone ... so where is the cap?

Thanx so!
#107
Quote by zakkwyldefan79
That's a good question, but I don't know the answer. I have not installed a set with the solderless kit yet, so I really don't know much about it. Hopefully someone else will be able to answer that one.


Thanx so much! Hope to find someone that tell us the answer ... at least i can try to contact directly the EMG support ...
#108
The solderless EMG's actually have their own little tone circuit built onto the knob. It's all SMT and actually under the metal casing of the pot, so you'd have quite a time getting to it, let alone modifying it.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9595/0924000643.jpg
In that picture, the big pins right next to my fingers, the first thing to the right is a resistor, the next one, the little yellow box, is a capacitor, then the 4 white dots after that are an IC. Sorry for the crap quality pic, but I thought it'd help.


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#109
Quote by MonkeyLink07
The solderless EMG's actually have their own little tone circuit built onto the knob. It's all SMT and actually under the metal casing of the pot, so you'd have quite a time getting to it, let alone modifying it.

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9595/0924000643.jpg
In that picture, the big pins right next to my fingers, the first thing to the right is a resistor, the next one, the little yellow box, is a capacitor, then the 4 white dots after that are an IC. Sorry for the crap quality pic, but I thought it'd help.


Thanx so much for the help!

But ... why there are resistor and IC??? I don't understand ...
#110
Probably just an active tone control or something, to attenuate or enhance certain frequencies. In general, just to shape the tone how EMG wants it.


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#111
Quote by MonkeyLink07
Probably just an active tone control or something, to attenuate or enhance certain frequencies. In general, just to shape the tone how EMG wants it.


Thanx so for the info! I've sent a mail to the EMG customer care and that's the answer:

"You might be able to do that, but the replacement would have to be an SMT component, and the warranty would be voided."

That's not good for me ... I love the sound of EMG pickups with Orange Drop caps ...
#112
Hmmm, it's odd, I just looked at their solderless diagrams a bit more, and it doesn't even seem like they're active tones, as there's no power going to them. You could just try getting your own 25k pots and using them as a tone,


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#113
Quote by MonkeyLink07
Hmmm, it's odd, I just looked at their solderless diagrams a bit more, and it doesn't even seem like they're active tones, as there's no power going to them. You could just try getting your own 25k pots and using them as a tone,


Probably that's the best way to solve the issue! Bah ... I don't understand why they can't let EMG user to "fully customize" the electronics easilly ...

At this point i prefer the old solder system ...

Thanx So Again!
#114
1st question
I already have a solderless kit for my EMGs except the 3 way switch. I noticed the EMG solderless switches so won't I need the tele switch for wiring up with just one volume and tone control?

http://emginc.com/content/wiringdiagrams/T3_B162rE_0230-0181A.pdf

I have my middle position totally off instead of combining the bridge and neck pickup. Will this be possible/easy with this switch?

2nd question
What is the benefit of the active tone control with non-X pickups? I see the response curve on the active tone pot but can't find one for the passive tone pot...

Active tone pot
http://emginc.com/content/wiringdiagrams/VLPF_0230-0168B.pdf

Passive tone pot
http://emginc.com/content/wiringdiagrams/Tone_0230-0162.pdf
Last edited by dizturbed at Nov 18, 2010,
#115
I don't think you will be able to do a bridge/off/neck with that switch, the connections are already made internally, so there's no switching how they connect.

And it's just a different way of connecting the tone pot, in series rather than parallel, it probably just makes it transition smoother.


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#116
I've got a quick question, not sure if its been asked before. I'm in the process of modding one of my guitars and I've been planning on getting an AHB-1 Blackout for it. I'm also thinking about changing my other guitar to blackouts as well. I only want one pickup in each guitar and I generally just use the bridge pickup. How would it sound using the designated "neck pickup" in a blackout set in the bridge position in one guitar and then the actual bridge pickup in the other guitar? Ideally I'd think it would give both guitars more difference in sound. Would putting a neck pickup in the bridge just make it sound awful or is it something people do?

Edit: For those interested, I play lead guitar in a rock/post-hardcore band, we play in drop C.
Last edited by HoppusFanboy at Nov 19, 2010,
#117
It will probably sound different, but it would work. The neck pickup is usually made for a lower output and picking up more bass than bridge pickups.


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#118
I know the EMG Afterburner/PA2 are used to overdrive a tube amp which I have. But I plan on playing more than my amp on a USB recording interface like a Line6 POD UX1 so will the EMG overdrive controls also work well with the UX1?

I have the same question about the EMG VMC tone control. Will it also work well with computer recording or am I better of using the software and saving my money for something else?
#119
I'm pretty sure that all it does is give it a boost, this will make it distort slightly more when you are playing, like if you had your (passive) pickups in series or were strumming very hard. I can't find a schematic, so I'm not sure if it actually does any clipping on it's own. I'd think that it's just a boost, so it may distort a little, but it may just be a clean boost.

The VMC should work, as it's not relying on somthing else to do it's effect, it's got it's boost and cut right in it.


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#120
Quote by MonkeyLink07
I'm pretty sure that all it does is give it a boost, this will make it distort slightly more when you are playing, like if you had your (passive) pickups in series or were strumming very hard. I can't find a schematic, so I'm not sure if it actually does any clipping on it's own. I'd think that it's just a boost, so it may distort a little, but it may just be a clean boost.

The VMC should work, as it's not relying on somthing else to do it's effect, it's got it's boost and cut right in it.


Well I have the EMG 81/60 and I'd wire the AB to the 81 only for distortion boost. But I'm wondering if they're going to work well with a pod or if I'd be better off just using the boost/OD pedal and EQ with the software.

Basically I want to know if anybody has used the EMG controls with software and did they work just as well as with a tube amp or will they be a waste of money to use with the software.
Last edited by dizturbed at Nov 23, 2010,