#1
Alright, so I'm heading off to college next fall and of course I need a guitar amp to bring with me. But that is where the problem arises, I can't bring my current amp because I don't get storage for my amp. So here is the list of requirements I have for the amp:

-Has to be medium sized, I need to fit it under a bed, on the side of a bed or in a closet. Close to 1 ft X 2 ft X 2 ft. I can go a little bigger and I can definitely go smaller. The main concern is the width and height.

-Has to be loud enough for a live performance

-Good Clean channel. I don't care about distortion or sound FX, I have pedals for that

-Needs Bass, Middle, Gain and Treble controls. Reverb is optional, I would like a control for Reverb, but I could easily get a pedal

-I do NOT want a Modelling Amp. I realize they produce sounds that are similar to good amps, but that severely limits the usage of pedals I currently own and trying to find a different sound

-My price limit is $500. If completely necessary I will go higher, but I will not go above $700. Remember I must keep it in a dorm room that I don't think can lock.

And for a reference, these are the genres I play, to help you suggest:
-Post-Rock
-Post-Metal
-Progressive Rock
-Progressive Metal
-Experimental
-Thrash Metal
-Hard Rock

Thank you so much for your help! You don't know how much I need this.
#3
^^this. I've heard very good things about those amps. I know Mesa Rectifier combos go for between $650 and $750 when bought used, but that's a bit outta your price range. So its either that or the Peavey.

And actually, I'm pretty sure you can lock your dorm room. My sister goes to Texas A&M and she has a key for her room.
#4
I wouldn't go with the 6505+ for Post-Rock or Experimental. Its clean channel isn't great either. Here are some amps to look at:

Bugera V55
Peavey Valveking 50W
Peavey Classic 30
Traynor YCV40
Vox AC15
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I wouldn't go with the 6505+ for Post-Rock or Experimental. Its clean channel isn't great either. Here are some amps to look at:

Bugera V55
Peavey Valveking 50W
Peavey Classic 30
Traynor YCV40
Vox AC15

Alright, I looked at the Bugera, but I can't find anywhere that says how heavy it is or what the dimensions are. Which isn't good because I need to know that stuff.

The Peavey's are nice too, but they are way to big, unfortunately.

The Traynor is kind of on the expensive side.

The Vox is also too heavy.

I don't know, I doubt I can really get much. I mean, too many restrictions. Heaviness is somewhat of a problem, but if I can get everything else and just a heavy amp, I guess I will have to do. I have to carry it across campus, and it would be hard to do that if it is too heavy.


As for the Spider, I haven't heard anything great about those. And also they are modellers right?

Well, if anyone else can help, that would be appreciated.
#6
never tried one, but ive heard good things abput the zt lunchboxes thyere selling on musiciansfirend now?
#7
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#8
The AC4TV isn't loud enough to play gigs. The Spider is good for bedroom practice, although there are better options even for that. And don't get me started on the Spider in a gigging scenario.

TS, look up the Bugera V22, essentially the younger brother of the V55. It's gonna be lighter, as the transformers aren't as big. Also, the Peavey Classic 30 is a pretty small amp, I'd check it out again. Other than that, look for a used Crate PowerBlock, it's not the best amp, but it takes pedals well and is very very light.
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#10
No doubt get a bugera v55 with a OD/Tubescreamer or 2. It's not very heavy I played one about a week ago. can't be over 40lbs i would say and it's probably about 18" by 18" if I had to guess. Not big only being a 112. Amp sounded great btw. Also you might like the Jet City JCA20H GREAT GREAT amp! I would probably get the jet city now that i think about it.
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#11
Both of the Peaveys are little on the heavy side (approx 40 Lbs each), but the dimensions seem fine. When they say depth, which way is that? While facing the front of the amp, is it from left to right, or back to front?

Also, quick question:
The Spider IV 30. I know it is a modelling amp, but it isn't as crazy as the other ones I have used. Is it good for live performances? And how well does it handle a Boss MT-2 Metal Zone Pedal on the cleans, if anyone would happen to know that......

As for the Bugera, they are very heavy. The V55 closing in on 60 lbs and the V22 closing in on 5o iirc. So I don't think those will work, unfortunately.

Again, thanks for helping.
#12
NO to the spider they won't accept any pedals and sound very digital and cheap. Check out the vypyr tube 60 tube amp, Good effects, headphone jack if you want to play late, PLENTY loud for gigs.
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#13
it sounds more like you should try look at a head and cab alright it will be chunky but a good head and a good 1x12 should do well and you can dissmantle it
#14
A valveking combo would be ok but you need to change the speaker, OT and valves to make it sound good. If you're just playing in your room then i'd suggest a Blackstar HT5. You probably would need an overdrive pedal with it like a bad monkey or tubescreamer though

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#15
ZT Lunchbox. I'm not even kidding here.

It sounds real sterile, but it's 200 watts and has a headphone jack. I imagine with an OD you could get it sounding somewhat tube like.
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it sounds more like you should try look at a head and cab alright it will be chunky but a good head and a good 1x12 should do well and you can dissmantle it

Any suggestions as to which head/cabinet? I know nothing about using head,s unforutnately.

As for the Peavey Vypyr 60, the only problem I have is that it is a modelling amp. I feel weird using presets. I like to use my own pedals to make my own sounds. If it has an awesome clean channel and can handle distortion pedals well, then I will check that out.

EDIT: Everyone keeps saying OD. I'm fairly new to amps and guitars, what does that mean exactly?
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#17
If you're looking at heads/cabinets perhaps the Blackstar Ht5 ministack

Epiphone Wilshire
Orange Rocker 30
Harley Benton 212 (w/Greenbacks)
Ernie Ball Vp jr
Swollen Pickle fuzz
Maxon OD808
Danelectro Vibe
Line 6 Tap Tremolo
Line 6 Verbzilla
EH Memory Man Hazarai
Boss RC20XL


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#18
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EDIT: Everyone keeps saying OD. I'm fairly new to amps and guitars, what does that mean exactly?


An OD is an overdrive pedal.
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#19
Unfortunately, it isn't loud enough for live play. That's my main concern.

@Raijouta: What is the catch with the Lunchbox? Can you lower the wattage? Because 200 is way overkill. Also, what do the controls: Ambience and Tone, do? Do they supplement for Bass, Middle and Treble? Is this thing really worth it?

It definately fits all of my criteria, and it worth the test. The only quesiton left would be, would Guitar Center have distortion pedals available for me to test out with this amp so I can truely see before I buy it?

EDIT: I kind of figured out what OD was after I posted that. I meant OT.
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#21
OT is output transformer, referring to a mod for Valvekings which is gaining some popularity (namely, the output transformer swap)

Ambience is reverb as far as I can tell, and the 'Tone' knob is essentially Bass, Middle and Treble in one knob. It has a headphone out so you can play quietly when you need to.

I figure if you're getting all your sound from pedals, it would make a good, cheap, loud, clean amp. Down the line, though, you might want to get a speaker cabinet.
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#22
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so you're in the market for basically a 1x12" combo..... honestly, look at some Fenders if all you want is a good clean. How big gigs are we talking?

College Gigs and Concerts. I have to join a "band" as part of the requirements and coursework. I currently have a 100 Watt at home, but it is too big because I don't get storage for non-orchestra instruments. And I want to join a separate band there too. But again, just college gigs.

What Fenders do you recomend?

@Raijouta: I just want to know few more things:
1. It says 200 watts at full volume, I assume. So if I lower the volume, how far down would be good for a live performance? Because 200 watts would over power the other instruments. I really only need like 50-100 watts non-tube amp. I'm really bad with amps if you haven't noticed already.
2. What are some cabinets that you would recommend?
3. You mentioned added a cabinet. Does that mean the lunchbox is a head? Or can any amp act like a head? Because, to be honest, I'm not sure of hte difference.

Again thanks. And sorry if these are nooby questions, but I haven't been playing long enough to know a lot of this information.
#23
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A valveking combo would be ok but you need to change the speaker, OT and valves to make it sound good. If you're just playing in your room then i'd suggest a Blackstar HT5. You probably would need an overdrive pedal with it like a bad monkey or tubescreamer though



I agree with this

blackstar would be lovely but get a OD pedal or a TS pedal and a 1x12 cab

can you mic at your gigs?

id imagine you could do
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#24
1. I've got no idea. Wattage doesn't directly translate to volume, and there are a lot of other factors to consider, such as the size of the venue. The Lunchbox has a 6.5 inch speaker, which is pretty small as far as guitar speakers go (considering the 'standard' size speaker is 12 inches).

2. Avatar, Emperor and Zilla cabs are all custom builders who are well respected on these forums. As for non-custom builders, Mesa/Boogie, Orange and Marshall (to a lesser extent) are great cab makers.

3. The Lunchbox has a speaker output in addition to a headphone output.
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#25
So, I'm going to check out the Peaveys and Bugeras mentioned on the other page along with the Lunchbox.

Just wondering about heads now, so I have more then a few options too look at. What are some good heads with reasonable wattage? If I understand Heads correctly.
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So, I'm going to check out the Peaveys and Bugeras mentioned on the other page along with the Lunchbox.

Just wondering about heads now, so I have more then a few options too look at. What are some good heads with reasonable wattage? If I understand Heads correctly.


If you buy a head, you will need a cabinet with it.

I wouldn't go for the Lunchbox, although I haven't played it, the youtube demos really don't seem all that good, and pushing 200watts out of a Six inch speaker seems pretty weird to me.
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#28
So I've been looking into the ZT Lunchbox, and I really like it. I just have one question: How does it work with Cabinets? I don't think I understand Cabinets very well. Do the Cabs have to be the same wattage?