#1
Gear Used:
Guitar= Jackson 90's RR3- Alder Body, Duncan Designed Detonators (cheap versions of Invaders) in Bridge and Neck. Tuned to Drop D.
Amp= B52 AT-112-
Settings=
Base: 9
Mids: 5
Treble: 9
Gain: 8
Contour: 10
Volume: 5

I dont use any pedals.
My tone is excessively dark and I dont like it. Its really modern when Im trying to go for a more British Vintage Heavy Metal sound. I want Judas Priest it sounds like some pointless Nu-Metal Guitarist. Can anyone help me achieve some change in my sound? On my old amp (Roland Cube 30X) I could simply turn it to the "Metal" Setting and it would get a great vintage sound, I looked into it and apparently the Metal setting is modeled after the Peavey XXX, so is there a way I could achieve that sound? If anyone can recommend ways to help alter my tone a bit whether its new settings, pedals, amps, pups, whatever, Id be really grateful.
The cheaper solutions are preferred because as you can see in my sig, Im saving for a car and its slow going.
Im looking for something like Judas Priest's "Night Crawler" or Saxon's "Crusader"
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#2
Put the contour in the middle.
Bass-5
Mid-7
Treble-7
Gain-6

Turn the volume up! Get the tubes working for you!
You should be able to get pretty close to NWOBHM tones. You may just want to tune your guitar to standard or Eb.
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#3
What kind of speaker is in your amp? Maybe a Celestion swap is in order to get the tone you want.
#4
Mids mids mids mids mids TURN THEM UP! Try B:8 M:8 T:6 and see where that gets you.
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What kind of speaker is in your amp? Maybe a Celestion swap is in order to get the tone you want.

Searched, 10 minutes later I could find no answer, but since it wasnt really advertised Id guess they're B52 Speakers.
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More mids, less treble.
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More mids, less treble.

he wants a LESS dark sound

more mids, more treble, less bass more presence more reverb
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Quote by El-Gonado
Put the contour in the middle.
Bass-5
Mid-7
Treble-7
Gain-6

Turn the volume up! Get the tubes working for you!
You should be able to get pretty close to NWOBHM tones. You may just want to tune your guitar to standard or Eb.

How loud would you recommend for a 60W? I figured 5 was plenty
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Since you don't have a master volume, I'd try it around 8-Turn your guitar volume way down and slowly bring it up. Make sure no-one is home (really fricken LOUD).
Now you should have that awesome thing called "power tube saturation".

The speaker is a B-52 12 inch. Maybe try a 2X12 or 4X12 cab with better speakers.
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Quote by El-Gonado
Since you don't have a master volume, I'd try it around 8-Turn your guitar volume way down and slowly bring it up. Make sure no-one is home (really fricken LOUD).
Now you should have that awesome thing called "power tube saturation".

The speaker is a B-52 12 inch. Maybe try a 2X12 or 4X12 cab with better speakers.


Where did you get that info? His amp is indeed a master volume amp, otherwise there would be no gain control. And TS, you're using way too much gain. Try backing off a bit, turning down your bass and turning up you mids.
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#12
Christ and Hendrix unite!

Okay now, there is NO way we can decide what you're sound really is, because we can not hear it, therefore can not decide what you must do to get thy brighter tone. Simply put everything at noon across the board, and fiddle with shit till you get what you want.
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B-52 website. The Master controls only "low res" and "reverb" for both channels. There is no "Master Volume".
I have the AT100. This has a separate "Master Volume" in addition to 3 channel volumes (clean, gain1 and gain2).
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Quote by El-Gonado
B-52 website. The Master controls only "low res" and "reverb" for both channels. There is no "Master Volume".
I have the AT100. This has a separate "Master Volume" in addition to 3 channel volumes (clean, gain1 and gain2).


Master volume just means you use a second volume control after the preamp tubes to get them to saturate while keeping the power section clean and quiet. Any amp with a gain control has a master volume.
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#15
The B-52, like most cheap tube amps, could probably stand to have the following:

- Speaker swap
- New tubes
- Output transformer swap
- Possibly an EQ in the effects loop
- Circuit mods.

They're all relatively cheap solutions (i.e. you could do any one of them for $100 or less) For me, they're all equally effective mods and affect sound in their own ways.
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#16
My bad. Didn't pay attention to gain control.
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#17
Turn up the mids up the bass and down the gain as well. I use my XXX for metal and I get great british tones out of it with my el34's. I find the amp to be middy so I never raise the mids above 6. I have the gain only like 4.5 for iron maiden. Really they use much less gain than you'd think.
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Interesting, considering how often people scream, "get a new amp," I'm almost suprised that no one has suggested this.

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I'm just going to point out the obvious here and suggest you get a new amp that is better suited for British rock tone.

EQing can only accomplish so much, you can add a ton of mids, but it's never going to sound like a plexi. And no matter how much you tweak it, you're never going to get that greasy, Marshall breakup and compression from the amp.
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Quote by Raijouta
The B-52, like most cheap tube amps, could probably stand to have the following:

- Speaker swap
- New tubes
- Output transformer swap
- Possibly an EQ in the effects loop
- Circuit mods.

They're all relatively cheap solutions (i.e. you could do any one of them for $100 or less) For me, they're all equally effective mods and affect sound in their own ways.


I think for me, this is the best option because it gives a lot of feedback and Im thinking my pre amp tubes are to blame. So what tubes would anyone recommend for some NWOBHM tones?
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Tubes are not gonna change your amp to british voiced. However try tungsol 12ax7s, they are brighter than normal preamp tubes. Or you can buy a pedal to get some marshall style overdrive.
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Quote by Raijouta
The B-52, like most cheap tube amps, could probably stand to have the following:

- Speaker swap
- New tubes
- Output transformer swap
- Possibly an EQ in the effects loop
- Circuit mods.

They're all relatively cheap solutions (i.e. you could do any one of them for $100 or less) For me, they're all equally effective mods and affect sound in their own ways.


I wouldn't start with this though yet (even though it's right). His amp isn't really right for him either but he's just doing some bad EQ'ing, when you crank your bass and contour like that your pretty much asking for Nu-Metal tone.

Keep your bass at around 4-6 with your treble somewhat high and your mids a little higher. But really you amp doesn't suit your style much, it's meant to be a 6L6 loaded Mesa Rectifier clone, you want something a little more Marshall.
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Tubes are not gonna change your amp to british voiced. However try tungsol 12ax7s, they are brighter than normal preamp tubes. Or you can buy a pedal to get some marshall style overdrive.

Any suggestions?
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Any suggestions?

Rothwell Hellbender. Watch the Proguitarshop demo of it against a marshall plexi, the thing is amazing. Also, if you want a brighter, Tung Sols are brighter, so you might wanna try some
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Rothwell Hellbender. Watch the Proguitarshop demo of it against a marshall plexi, the thing is amazing. Also, if you want a brighter, Tung Sols are brighter, so you might wanna try some

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