#1
Hi guys, wonder if you could help.

I've recently brought a Fender Stratocaster USA (well, given) and now believe i should begin the saving of a new amp. I was thinking head and cab. Although many seem expensive and make me want to just keep my amp that i have.

So your question:
What amp (head and cab) is a good make, well built, nice sound which is as cheap as possible?

I've heard Marshalls fit this bill but, i like the look of a Fender or maybe a Peavey or even another Vox. Basicly, im lost, help me out!

Thanks guys

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Amplifier:
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Vox Valvetronix VT30

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#2
What music do you play/want to play?

Do you have a budget?

Where do you live?

Do you gig/play at home/both?

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#3
Why in particular do you want a stack?
also music style? price range?
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If you want versatility, look up Randall's MTS series. Most versatile amp ever made, bar none.
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Why in particular do you want a stack?
also music style? price range?


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What music do you play/want to play?

Do you have a budget?

Where do you live?

Do you gig/play at home/both?


Thanks guys. I play blues/rock/heavy rock. I suppose similar interests to Gary moore, Eric Clapton although Metallica is always there.

My budget is none as such but cheap as possible. If you just give mewhat you think i can check it out and decide

I do both. Hopefully begin gigging soon.

Cheers Guyss

Guitar:
Gibson Les Paul Studio (Goldy)
Fender American Stratocaster (Blacky)

Amplifier:
Orange Dual Terror Head W/ Orange 1 x 12 Cab
Vox Valvetronix VT30

Pedals/Extras:
BOSS ME-70
BOSS Micro BR

Youtube: DaveTheOriginal
#6
if you don't need too much versatility, this head is great:

http://www.valvepower.co.uk/

with an overdrive pedal as a boost, i can hit 80s metal (especially if i use two boosts ) with it. I would add, though, that I use humbuckers, and your guitars seem to have single coils- that's going to lower the gain a bit.

It is a clone of a marshall 18 watter, though, so it does tend to sound like a marshall most of the time (though it's not a million miles off a voxy tone, either), and it doesn't have a ton of headroom. the tone is awesome, though.

if you can find somewhere where you can try the marshall 1974x (the normal, non-tremolo channel of it), that'd give you a fair idea of what it sounds like. Bear in mind, though, you'd have to crank it up to get distortion (and that's another reason why the valvepower is more versatile than the marshall version, it has powerscaling so you can get a cranked-up sound at low volumes).

the cab would be up to you- you should be able to get a decent 2x12 cab for around £200-£300 or so, i'd have thought.
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A real max budget would really help us, but as long as we have no budget I'd get a Splawn Superstock
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#8
Blackheart Handsome Devil sounds like a great option for you, it will need a boost to be able to do metallica though.

Other amps that could work

Blackstar Ht-5
Vox Nighttrain
Orange tinyterror
Egnater Rebel 20
Peavey Classic 30
Peavey valveking
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#9
maybe a bugera v55 or v22
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if you don't need too much versatility, this head is great:

http://www.valvepower.co.uk/

with an overdrive pedal as a boost, i can hit 80s metal (especially if i use two boosts ) with it. I would add, though, that I use humbuckers, and your guitars seem to have single coils- that's going to lower the gain a bit.

It is a clone of a marshall 18 watter, though, so it does tend to sound like a marshall most of the time (though it's not a million miles off a voxy tone, either), and it doesn't have a ton of headroom. the tone is awesome, though.

if you can find somewhere where you can try the marshall 1974x (the normal, non-tremolo channel of it), that'd give you a fair idea of what it sounds like. Bear in mind, though, you'd have to crank it up to get distortion (and that's another reason why the valvepower is more versatile than the marshall version, it has powerscaling so you can get a cranked-up sound at low volumes).

the cab would be up to you- you should be able to get a decent 2x12 cab for around £200-£300 or so, i'd have thought.
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A firm favourite around here, and with good reason. I gig three nights a week with an almost identical amp, playing the sort of stuff you like, and it's perfect.
#13
Jet City JCA20H and the matched cab would work well for you, although you may need a boost and/or overdrive pedal to get into Metallica territory.
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Jet City JCA20H and the matched cab would work well for you, although you may need a boost and/or overdrive pedal to get into Metallica territory.

+ 1000000

The Jet City amps are fantastical. Correct about the need for a boost as well. Nonetheless, an amazing tube stack for the price.
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Thanks guys. I play blues/rock/heavy rock. I suppose similar interests to Gary moore, Eric Clapton although Metallica is always there.

My budget is none as such but cheap as possible. If you just give mewhat you think i can check it out and decide

I do both. Hopefully begin gigging soon.


OK, you're going to have to think tradeoffs here - if you want a head that does cleans or mild OD up through metalica, and sounds really good doing it, and that is top-notch reliable, you're looking at a lot of expensive amps. If the amp needs to be able to do all that at the touch of a footswitch (no nob turning to get different tones) then it's even worse. Stuff like Bogner Ecstacys, Soldano SLOs and Lucky 13s, Splawns, CAE OD100s, and so on. All are easily four figures, even used.

If you don't want to spend that much, then you need to think about what you're willing to give up. Are cleans not a big deal? Then maybe a Peavy 5150/6505 would work. Willing to give up the high gain? Maybe a non-MV marshall head and a pedal would work. Don't give a shit about reliability? Then buy a Bugera. Willing to spend a half hour turning knobs and changing tubes to dial in each sound? Think THD Flexi. Don't really care about the nuances of tone? Then get a POD and however much mosfet power amp you think you'll need.

Only you can decide what tradeoffs if any you're willing to make to bring the price down.
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You might want to have a look at the Laney VH100R. Of course the ubiquitous Marshall JCM800 (or even 900) shouldn't be discounted either.
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#17
Quote by Dave_Mc
if you don't need too much versatility, this head is great:

http://www.valvepower.co.uk/

with an overdrive pedal as a boost, i can hit 80s metal (especially if i use two boosts ) with it. I would add, though, that I use humbuckers, and your guitars seem to have single coils- that's going to lower the gain a bit.

It is a clone of a marshall 18 watter, though, so it does tend to sound like a marshall most of the time (though it's not a million miles off a voxy tone, either), and it doesn't have a ton of headroom. the tone is awesome, though.

if you can find somewhere where you can try the marshall 1974x (the normal, non-tremolo channel of it), that'd give you a fair idea of what it sounds like. Bear in mind, though, you'd have to crank it up to get distortion (and that's another reason why the valvepower is more versatile than the marshall version, it has powerscaling so you can get a cranked-up sound at low volumes).

the cab would be up to you- you should be able to get a decent 2x12 cab for around £200-£300 or so, i'd have thought.


+1203453, These are really great amps especially for classic rock!!!
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#18
cheers, jak and kyle

even bigger d makes a very good point, too

that jet city might be worth a try, too- i haven't tried it, but the soundclips i've heard have been fairly good, and they were flavour of the month over at HC a while ago (though i'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing ).
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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