#1
I am a happy owner of an Ibanez RG350M.
I am an unhappy owner of an Edge III Tremolo.


I have heard about 'blocking' it, but I'm not quite sure what it involves!

So, a few questions...

- How do I do it?
- What advantages / disadvantages are there to blocking it?
- Will I still need the locking nut once it's blocked?
- Will I tune it the same way from the fine tuners once blocked?

Thanks!

(Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, just I kinda considered it as customizing).
#2
Blocking it just simple involves putting something beween the trem block and the body of the guitar.

A simple google gives you pictures and how tos,



http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/blocktremolo.htm


It prevents any movement of the tremolo, and so can improve tuning stability, and apparently sustain.

You dont need the locking nut, but you still use the fine tuners.




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#3


Like that.

It turns the trem into a hardtail (of sorts).

You won't need the locking nut, but you can still use it and adjust with the fine tuners if you want.

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#4
I put a stack of pennies in the gap...yeah the edge 3 sucks i blocked mine this morning
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#6
Doesnt matter either way.




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#7
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I put a stack of pennies in the gap...yeah the edge 3 sucks i blocked mine this morning

Thanks everyone!
Was it definitely worth blocking man?
#8
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Thanks everyone!
Was it definitely worth blocking man?


Dude...Trems generally suck anyway, block it out.
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#9
Quote by Skeet UK
Dude...Trems generally suck anyway, block it out.

Yeah, I'm on the same boat, I hate them!
I played a mate's RG350 and loved the feel of it, to me it plays like an absolute dream, better than anything I've played, that's just personal opinion!
Hate the trems though, gonna block it tomorrow, too late to use a saw to cut wood

Unless, does anyone have any other secure methods rather than wood?
Not sure if I like the sound of using coins!
#12
Quote by hetfieldaaaah
Yeah, I'm on the same boat, I hate them!
I played a mate's RG350 and loved the feel of it, to me it plays like an absolute dream, better than anything I've played, that's just personal opinion!
Hate the trems though, gonna block it tomorrow, too late to use a saw to cut wood

Unless, does anyone have any other secure methods rather than wood?
Not sure if I like the sound of using coins!


Wood is the best method.

The stack of Coins method is usually combined with a healthy dose of Araldite between the coins

Trems suck unless it is one of these, like I have, because this is a Hardtail Trem, nothing like any other Trem out there, with NONE of the issues associated with Trems.

TremKing dude.

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#13
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Deck of cards could work too

It wouldn't be great.
The primary goal of blocking the trem is to keep it from moving. The secondary goal is to transfer more vibrations from the bridge to the body. A deck of cards will dampen this more than something solid like wood or a metal block. Even a dice would be better than cards. Even coins are less desirable because they would be layered, and that can cause rattling and loss of energy transfer.
#14
Ok so I just blocked it off with coins, it seems pretty solid!
Although it seems to keep going out of tune now, only very slightly though, is this normal?
Also a tiny bit of fret buzz has occurred around 1-5 frets on the 4, 5 and 6 strings!
Any ideas?
#15
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Ok so I just blocked it off with coins, it seems pretty solid!
Although it seems to keep going out of tune now, only very slightly though, is this normal?
Also a tiny bit of fret buzz has occurred around 1-5 frets on the 4, 5 and 6 strings!
Any ideas?



Well you have just lowered your action, so you now need to se the string height again and intonate it.

You should araldite teh coins together if you can.
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#16
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Well you have just lowered your action, so you now need to se the string height again and intonate it.

You should araldite teh coins together if you can.

How come my action is now lowered?
And how do I set string height?
I suck at setups!
#17
Quote by hetfieldaaaah
How come my action is now lowered?
And how do I set string height?
I suck at setups!



Weeeeel.

The bridge floats, so by blocking it, you have lowered the back end down which has lowered your action.

Not knowing the bridge well, I assume there should be some screws on each saddle (on the top) that adjust the height of that saddle.

OK, had a look. So on each side of the trem there is a large 4mm allen bolt.
Each of these is locked in place by a 1.5mm grub screw. Loosen the grub screw, then wind the 4mm bolt to raise the action on each side, then lock off the grub screw again (apparently).

Then intonate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoZhFWWAV8Y&NR=1
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