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First of all, this is not meant to cause offense to any homosexuals out there. This is purely motivated by my curiousity.

I am not sure if this is prevalent in the US, but here in the UK a lot of gay guys seem to have a very distinctive voice. Its hard to describe but if you youtube search the comedian Alan Carr you will see what I mean.

I am wondering any other UGers have observed this phenomena, and also can you shed some light on how it has arisen.

I asked a few of my mates about it origins. One of them said it was caused by too much semen on the vocal cords. This seemed plausible at first, but now I think about it if this was true then straight girls would talk like this too.

Any thoughts on this??
#4
Quote by d3adh3adch3mist
First of all, this is not meant to cause offense to any homosexuals out there. This is purely motivated by my curiousity.

I am not sure if this is prevalent in the US, but here in the UK a lot of gay guys seem to have a very distinctive voice. Its hard to describe but if you youtube search the comedian Alan Carr you will see what I mean.

I am wondering any other UGers have observed this phenomena, and also can you shed some light on how it has arisen.

I asked a few of my mates about it origins. One of them said it was caused by too much semen on the vocal cords. This seemed plausible at first, but now I think about it if this was true then straight girls would talk like this too.

Any thoughts on this??



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#5
Yeah. They seem to stress the "s" sound. That's how I distinguish the "gay" voice from the regular one.
#7
some gay people just choose to adopt that persona that is "camp". I have nothing against gay people whatsoever... but to me I find it irritating. there's no need to mince around and speak like a twat.
but, each to their own
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#10
yeah idk what causes the gay voice but its really noticeable and distinctive.
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#11
Every gay man I know that doesn't have that voice can easily fake it and make it sound convincing.
#12
i know what you mean. its not just for gays though. there are plenty of straight men wo talk that way too but they are usually more metrosexual than most. i also know a few gay people and not one of them talks that way.

what causes it? its probably a cultural thing mixed with a lisp that some people just naturally have. some have the voice though without the lisp.
#13
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some gay people just choose to adopt that persona that is "camp". I have nothing against gay people whatsoever... but to me I find it irritating. there's no need to mince around and speak like a twat.
but, each to their own


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#14
There is no gay gene. I have to say its often developed because of who they associate and hang out with. I have noticed this pattern of altering their speech with Urbanites as well however it may be just like why people talk differently down south compared to those in northern states. It's simply a different dialect!
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homosexuality is something you're born with, therefore it is genetic. I read that it's due to a difference in hormone levels between homosexuals and heterosexuals. and as we know hormones play a role in the changing of a young male's voice during puberty. so i would imagine this difference in hormone levels can have a possible role in affecting ones voice to be more lispy

p.s. i don't actually know this for a fact. just a theory of mine.

This is basically my theory. And I read this in Dr. House's voice.
#16
I had a gay friend in high school who absolutely hated other gay people who talked in that voice. He claimed it was user primarily by the gay guys who just wanted to flaunt their homosexuality.

I guess there are extremists in everything.

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#17
Maybe it's related to hormones or something like that.

^ Or what he said, maybe it's them trying to be more femenine.
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#18
I read that in Alan Carr's voice.
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There is no gay gene. I have to say its often developed because of who they associate and hang out with.

Just about every gay man I've ever met will say he's born with it and most of them would chose to be straight if they could.
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homosexuality is something you're born with, therefore it is genetic. I read that it's due to a difference in hormone levels between homosexuals and heterosexuals. and as we know hormones play a role in the changing of a young male's voice during puberty. so i would imagine this difference in hormone levels can have a possible role in affecting ones voice to be more lispy

p.s. i don't actually know this for a fact. just a theory of mine.

nah, it's more of a sociological thing than a biological one. there are plenty of homosexuals who don't speak in that way. it's purely an act some gay people put on
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#22
Thanks for the replies guys, keep the discussion going =)
Miss-mouse, I find it a little irritating too, especially when there are gay people that don't talk like that. For example my old Physics teacher was gay but he had a deep masculine voice. Its confused me a little cos I've always thought that if you were gay, you would be attracted to masculine characteristics not feminine ones :S
ShallowEndings, sorry you deem this to be offensive, it's not meant with any malice.
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#24
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Thanks for the replies guys, keep the discussion going =)
Miss-mouse, I find it a little irritating too, especially when there are gay people that don't talk like that. For example my old Physics teacher was gay but he had a deep masculine voice. Its confused me a little cos I've always thought that if you were gay, you would be attracted to masculine characteristics not feminine ones :S
ShallowEndings, sorry you deem this to be offensive, it's not meant with any malice.

this confuses me too actually, I'm not sure why they would choose to adopt a feminine way of speaking when they're trying to attract other gay guys... who knows. I've always seen it as a form of attention seeking
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#25
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Just about every gay man I've ever met will say he's born with it and most of them would chose to be straight if they could.

Eh, I'm bisexual (homosexual dominant, however), and I'd have it no other way.
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#26
that's funny cause all people from UK sound pretty gay to me.

no offense though.


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#27
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i wondered this myself. but i know a few gay people who denied they were gay until they were 18 and the other was 20, bu they both have the voice.

also remember everyone has different levels of hormone in their blood, so i would imagine someone who is homosexual is MORE likely to express the hormones such as estrogen in a higher concentration to result in the changing of their voice.

well, maybe the higher oestrogen levels would cause them to behave in a more feminine way. I guess that makes sense.
still, I'm not sure if there are varying degrees of gay, as such
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#28
Maybe it's a way for gay people to let other gay people know that they're gay, saving them from awkward situations with hot straight people.
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#29
Quote by Wesseem
homosexuality is something you're born with, therefore it is genetic. I read that it's due to a difference in hormone levels between homosexuals and heterosexuals. and as we know hormones play a role in the changing of a young male's voice during puberty. so i would imagine this difference in hormone levels can have a possible role in affecting ones voice to be more lispy

p.s. i don't actually know this for a fact. just a theory of mine.

Shut the fuck up.

I have no clue what causes the voice, or why they talk in that voice.. But, OP/TS, it's all over the world. Not just in the UK. Don't worry.
#30
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I wish homosexual girls had a distinct voice too


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#31
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true, but if being gay is genetic then it will likely causes changes in many other things, not just the one hormone. so say for example there were 10 things it changed, one of them being a change in estrogen levels. that change in estrogen is not sufficient to result in a person being gay, but it does play a role and a 'side-effect' is altering the voice. So people who are gay but don't have the voice may be expressing the other 9 out of 10 traits but not the 10th one at a high level which is why their voices aren't lispy.


Again, this is just a bit of an educated theory but i have no proof for this. just something to consider i guess?

well it does seem to make sense that higher oestrogen levels could result in more effeminate ways of thinking, which could in turn affect behaviour, so what you're saying does make sense. but, this is assuming that homosexuality has a genetic cause, which I'm pretty sure hasn't been proven yet. I do believe that genetics play an important role in sexuality, but there are sociological and psychological factors to take into consideration too. both of these can also explain camp behaviour
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#32
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Shut the fuck up.

I have no clue what causes the voice, or why they talk in that voice.. But, OP/TS, it's all over the world. Not just in the UK. Don't worry.
Why should he? His reasoning is wrong, but why the forceful language?



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#33
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^wanna do us a favour and edit that so it doesn't take a whole page.


nah

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are you one of those people that think people choose to be gay?


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#34
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Shut the fuck up.


well reasoned argument there mate...
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#36
Well, the reason that the widely adopted "homosexual lisp" has come into such prominence is because it allows queers to communicate amongst themselves in an underlying high frequency pitch that heterosexual's cannot hear.
#37
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it's just my opinion that it's genetic. i don't actually know if it is. you're right my entire theory is under the assumption that it is genetic. whether it actually is or not still has to be discovered.
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#38
No idea what causes it, but the voice annoys me greatly. I know 2 guys who go against the general trend, though - one is straight (apparently) but is uber camp and greatly exaggerates the voice. The other is gay, and only has a moderately gay voice but there's nothing else camp about him.
The thing is, the first guy has had the voice since he was 12, so I can't really believe he put it on after deciding to be metrosexual
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#39
I actually know more gay guys that dont speak like that than ones that do. Is the voice actually connected to gays ...I always thought the only gay guys that talk like that were the diva valley gays. Just like diva valley girls talk different.
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#40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD3NMJNdyec

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it's just my opinion that it's genetic. i don't actually know if it is. you're right my entire theory is under the assumption that it is genetic. whether it actually is or not still has to be discovered.


haha What the hell??

You can't have an opinion on whether or not something is fact.

That is like saying: "well in my opinion, gravity exists."
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