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Whaling has another causalty with the Ady Gil, an anti whaling ship becoming seriously damaged due to a collision between it and a Japanese whaling vessel


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8445504.stm


Pit, what do you think, who was at fault here, and do you think the Australian government should be doing more to stop this outrage
#2
Fuck you whales..
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#3
Footage here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p85GysuVOrU

Looks like they wanted to get rammed

Whales shouldn't be hunted though.
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Last edited by Kensai at Jan 7, 2010,
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Whaling has another causalty with the Ady Gil, an anti whaling ship becoming seriously damaged due to a collision between it and a Japanese whaling vessel


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8445504.stm


Pit, what do you think, who was at fault here, and do you think the Australian government should be doing more to stop this outrage


Yep. It seems we aren't getting too far with the whole "diplomatic solution" proposed by Gillard etc. They've been at it for years. They were promising to do something about this whaling at the election ffs.

Not happy Jan.

EDIT: Not sure about who's at fault. Both sides seem to have legitimate claims as to "who ran into who".
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#5
Although I strongly am opposed to whaling, I know how protesters tend to get..
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#6
The Japanese rammed em and them whalehumpers have been making em do it for a while now.

Really, if they wanna stop the whale hunt they must make it so that nobody wants to buy it anymore, not by trying to an hero yourself against a japanese hunting ship


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#7
The Australian government should stop hiding behind empty words and take action. The Japanese have breached multiple international laws and treaties, and basically attempted murder (according to the accounts of the crew, the whaling ship was heading for the part of the ship where all the crew members were and only missed it because the captain put the ship into reverse).

Whaling ships should have a military escort out of Australian waters, and the Japanese responsible prosecuted under Australian law. Australian government needs to stop making empty promises that they have for the last few years and take some action instead of being bitches and never taking action.
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#9
This was The Advertiser's headline today actually.

The Japanese hunt for whales is fucking disgusting, regardless of whose side of the story is true.


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#11
All the whale wars idiots want is to stop the fishing for whales.


well NEWS BREAK, THEY ONLY CATCH EM AS LONG AS IT'S A DESIRED PRODUCT ON THEIR MARKET.

As long as there's a demand they'll supply, simple as that.

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so true!
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#12
2 things.
What the hell is that batmobile thing?!?!

What the **** is with the music?
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#14
As much as I'm totally against whale hunting, it seems to me that these idiot protestors got what they wanted.

That whaling ship clearly has right of way (if you have any brains) regardless of the rules of the see - it's big and not very quick to turn - the speedboat could have moved with no problem. Clearly it's a publicity stunt - and if they are stupid enough to put lives at risk like that then they got what they deserved.

Edit: they haven't allowed comments on youtube either - they clearly know they are a bunch of idiots and didn't fancy being flamed.
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All the whale wars idiots want is to stop the fishing for whales.


well NEWS BREAK, THEY ONLY CATCH EM AS LONG AS IT'S A DESIRED PRODUCT ON THEIR MARKET.

As long as there's a demand they'll supply, simple as that.


From what I know, they aren't allowed to catch the whales for commercial purposes/demand from market. It says in the article "international rules allow it to continue hunting under the auspices of a research programme."
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those bastards!
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As much as I'm totally against whale hunting, it seems to me that these idiot protestors got what they wanted.

That whaling ship clearly has right of way (if you have any brains) regardless of the rules of the see - it's big and not very quick to turn - the speedboat could have moved with no problem. Clearly it's a publicity stunt - and if they are stupid enough to put lives at risk like that then they got what they deserved.

Edit: they haven't allowed comments on youtube either - they clearly know they are a bunch of idiots and didn't fancy being flamed.

In fact, the whaling ship was heading in another direction, changed direction suddenly and flanked the Ady Gil then hit it.

Moving moderately sized boats isn't easy, regardless of their power, especially when the thing that hits you is a gigantic whaling ship already moving at near full speed.
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They should blast a torpedo in the ass of those whaling ships... goddamnit!
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#20
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From what I know, they aren't allowed to catch the whales for commercial purposes/demand from market. It says in the article "international rules allow it to continue hunting under the auspices of a research programme."



Yep, cause there is a demand for the meat.

Wanna stop the huntin? Stop the demand same with poaching really.
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Yep, cause there is a demand for the meat.

Wanna stop the huntin? Stop the demand same with poaching really.

You can cull the demand by cutting off the supply, especially considering that the demand is illegal under various international whaling treaties Japan has signed.

"Whale burgers" doesn't seem like scientific research to me.
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#22
The Australian High Court found in 2008 that Japan's whaling in Australian waters off Antartica was illegal, but Japan doesn't recognise our Antartic claim so they keep doing it.
#23
Attack the source of problems and eliminate their creation, rather than trying to contain them.

Attack the demand, not the supply.

Just as to attack crime we must attack poverty.

Containment method has proven time and time again to be a total and utter failure.
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#24
**** the Whales, what have they ever done for me? Nothing.
If they didn't want to be hunted then they shouldn't have evolved to be so tasty and easy to kill.

...Seriously though. If Japan wants whale meat then they should figure out a way to farm them. Hunting a species to extinction is seldom a good idea.
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Attack the source of problems and eliminate their creation, rather than trying to contain them.

Attack the demand, not the supply.

Just as to attack crime we must attack poverty.

Containment method has proven time and time again to be a total and utter failure.



The problem is that we can't really do a damn thing about Japan's internal laws. They aren't a nation of little brown people we can invade and impose rules on.


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those ****ing protestors should get harpooned. there is absolutely nothing wrong with hunting whales, if you eat meat and are against whaling you are a ****ing hypocrite because how many other animals are treated is much worse than hunting whales.

and whale meat is delicious!!



Wow what a rebel! Hunting animals to extinction is totally BADASS!
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#28
those ****ing protestors should get harpooned. there is absolutely nothing wrong with hunting whales, if you eat meat and are against whaling you are a ****ing hypocrite because how many other animals are treated is much worse than hunting whales.

and whale meat is delicious!!
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those ****ing protestors should get harpooned. there is absolutely nothing wrong with hunting whales, if you eat meat and are against whaling you are a ****ing hypocrite because how many other animals are treated is much worse than hunting whales.

and whale meat is delicious!!

Except that cows, chicken, pigs etc are not hunted. To be honest I have no interest in how they are treated (although cruelty is entirely unnecessary), the issue is with sustainability. Farming these animals is sustainable, hunting them isn't. We're too good at hunting and it's far too easy to drive a species to extinction, especially in fishing.
If the Japanese can figure out a way to farm whales, like we farm certain species of fish, then fair dues and they can continue to eat whale to their heart's content. They can't, however, be allowed to hunt whales in the unsustainable fashion that they do.

Fishermen in Europe have had to stop fishing in the ways that they did because they were driving species to extinction, the Japanese must do the same.
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those ****ing protestors should get harpooned. there is absolutely nothing wrong with hunting whales, if you eat meat and are against whaling you are a ****ing hypocrite because how many other animals are treated is much worse than hunting whales.

and whale meat is delicious!!

So its totally ok if I decide to hunt me some white rhino, despite the fact there are only 8 left in the entire world?
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Wow what a rebel! Hunting animals to extinction is totally BADASS!


show me some proof that the whales are close to extinction...
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So its totally ok if I decide to hunt me some white rhino, despite the fact there are only 8 left in the entire world?

Ya man, the horn has magical powers and shit.
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those ****ing protestors should get harpooned. there is absolutely nothing wrong with hunting whales, if you eat meat and are against whaling you are a ****ing hypocrite because how many other animals are treated is much worse than hunting whales.

and whale meat is delicious!!


Moron.

This has to stop. If they can farm whales similar to how everyone else farms cows or whatever, fine. But we're not going over to Japan and killing their animals on their territory, so they shouldn't do it to us. They have no right to come into our waters and kill whales for their own benefit.

Start bombing the whaling ships IMO.
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show me some proof that the whales are close to extinction...


Pretty sure the Minke Whale isn't but that still doesn't eliminate the fact that it is a completely unsustainable method of 'scientific research'.

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Start bombing the whaling ships IMO.


Hey, if you want to start killing japanese whalers you need to start farming them first.
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Ya man, the horn has magical powers and shit.

Psh, i'm already a wizard.
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yeah well... i have no idea how the japanese handle their quota if they are killing to many whales wich i have no idea if they are doing, then its wrong. but they probably know what they are doing i dont think their intention is to drive a species to extinction. dont get brainwashed by crazy treehuggers
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yeah well... i have no idea how the japanese handle their quota if they are killing to many whales wich i have no idea if they are doing, then its wrong. but they probably know what they are doing i dont think their intention is to drive a species to extinction. dont get brainwashed by crazy treehuggers



Their intention is to maximize profits. That means they'll kill as many whales as possible. And you'd be an ignorant fool to think we've never hunted a species to extinction before.
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Hey, if you want to start killing japanese whalers you need to start farming them first.


Why? They are not close to extinction!
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Pretty sure the Minke Whale isn't but that still doesn't eliminate the fact that it is a completely unsustainable method of 'scientific research'.


Hey, if you want to start killing japanese whalers you need to start farming them first.


Just want to kill the ships, and they're in our waters.
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