#1
Here's a story. I've been playing guitar and writing songs for 2 years now. I've never been in a band even though I desperately want to. I don't know any bassists or drummers here.
So here's my plan; I've got 3 years till I go to study in the UK, and till then I want to compose as many songs as I can. When I go to ze British Land, I'll get in a band and give my best shot to break into the music industry.
Selling out large venues is what I want to achieve.
I've been closely watching world premier bands like Muse, Radiohead and U2, selling out Wembleys in a blink of an eye.
I understand that they made many gigs and played their asses off every time, but other than that what does it take MUSICALLY to write Arena Rock songs?
Strong syncopated beats to make people bounce is a thing I noticed.

If anyone could help I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
#2
You must be pretty/handsome.

So have me as your front-man
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#4
You aren't going to sell out stadiums without coverage. You aren't going to get coverage without a major label backing you. You aren't going to get a major label to back you without a HUGE following of fans in your area. You aren't going to get a following of fans until you spend every night practicing, or gigging.


In short, no.
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#5
Radiohead hardly do bouncing arena rock, and Muse/U2 have been around for years, Muse sold out Wembley (big stadium) on the Super Massive Black Hole album, which is what, their 4th album?

It takes time and talent and mature/ developed song writing to get that big and still be a credible band. From the sounds of it you just want to be famous and be a rock star, thats not how great bands get started. Also small venues are where it's at, they are way more fun shows.
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#6
you must not ask that on UG. You already failed the first step of the arena-rocker test.
What kind of songs are u writing? BTW it's not about what you play but mainly about how you play it. Management helps too.
#8
You'd probably have greater success in porn.
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#10
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Also small venues are where it's at, they are way more fun shows.


That's right. Get personal. If you go out there with an attitude like 'i wanna be the most famous mothafukin rockstar all over the world', nobody's gonna give a shit about you.
#11
Hey, this is important to me; I'll be going against my whole family on this. I'm going for accounting and finance (which I also like) and when I finish my studies, if I have a good band I'll definetely go for it.
I WANT to be a rock star, but the Matt Bellamy/Thom Yorke Way.
Pouring my heart and soul into my songs, play live like there's no tomorrow and work hard. I don't want to just be famous or get money like all those fake ******s out there.
I'll just be under some pressure from close minded parents. I'm willing to start from nothing and building a fan base, then signing to a major label and get it big in the true rock way.

**** I am inspired. I'll probably write an anthem for this shit. ROCK!
PS. I write quite epic rock. Sounds like Muse and Opeth - sorrowful and melodic.
Last edited by ingames at Jan 8, 2010,
#13
Quote by ingames
Hey, this is important to me; I'll be going against my whole family on this. I'm going for accounting and finance (which I also like) and when I finish my studies, if I have a good band I'll definetely go for it.
I WANT to be a rock star, but the Matt Bellamy/Thom Yorke Way.
Pouring my heart and soul into my songs, play live like there's no tomorrow and work hard. I don't want to just be famous or get money like all those fake ******s out there.
I'll just be under some pressure from close minded parents. I'm willing to start from nothing and building a fan base, then signing to a major label and get it big in the true rock way.

**** I am inspired. I'll probably write an anthem for this shit. ROCK!
PS. I write quite epic rock. Sounds like Muse and Opeth - sorrowful and melodic.


this is cute

but it takes a longgggg time, even if you are good.
#14
I'm laughing my ass off reading this thread.
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#15
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I'm going for accounting and finance (which I also like)
I WANT to be a rock star

I don't want to just be famous or get money like all those fake ******s out there.

I'm willing to start from nothing and building a fan base, then signing to a major label and get it big in the true rock way.

I'll probably write an anthem for this shit. ROCK!


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#16
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Radiohead hardly do bouncing arena rock, and Muse/U2 have been around for years, Muse sold out Wembley (big stadium) on the Super Massive Black Hole album, which is what, their 4th album?

It takes time and talent and mature/ developed song writing to get that big and still be a credible band. From the sounds of it you just want to be famous and be a rock star, thats not how great bands get started. Also small venues are where it's at, they are way more fun shows.


BLASPHEMY!

it's called 'Black Holes & Revelations' dude...
You who build these altars now

To sacrifice these children
You must not do it anymore
#20
Many others had the same mentality as yours. Chances are, you're likelier to end up where they are now than where you want to be.

But I could be wrong. If you have 2 years of songwriting and instrumental experience, that's definitely a start. Let us see what material you have.
#21
Never would've guessed.

Take this to the bandleading forums. Thisll get more serious (albeit harsher) replies that'll probably help a lot.
#22
I haven't got anything upped in my profile except an acoustic demo.
If you can get pass the bad quality, it's a nice song.
#23
I like your passion, dude, you're exactly how I am. I really want to become a successful musician, also. But you have to look at the reality of the music business: It's become all about fads and whats cool now. Plus, everyone who matters in the music business (like the people who work at the major labels!) I'd say 70% of them are complete dicks. You can't worry about how you wanna end up, you have to focus on what comes next. Like right now, you don't have a band. All you should be focusing on right now is forming a band with the who you think would be the perfect people for you. After that, worry about writing songs and preparing some covers. After that, worry about getting some small gigs. Once you notice more and more people are coming to your gigs, this is when you should decide to go on a small tour (like of some clubs in the states that surround you, thus building a fanbase outside of your own city and state.) Note that a manager is very important at this point. Once you get to this point, however, it's pretty much a gamble, either the major labels will start to recognize you or they won't. Hopefully all your hard work will pay off.

EDIT: Also, you should start preparing a demo sometime during this time, also. Then you go to some record companies and give them your demo, and hopefully they will like it and give you a record deal.
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#24
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You aren't going to sell out stadiums without coverage. You aren't going to get coverage without a major label backing you.
Wrong. Case in point: Dispatch. Independent-label band which sold out Madison Square Garden three nights in a row.
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#25
Well, I might get a job at a major label as an accountant so I'll have some contacts over there. Then I'll give 'em a demo since I'll be on the inside; this kinda increases chances of being recognised don't you think?

@food1010: Wow, that's impressive. Though they kinda suck :/ I don't like them.

Anyhow, if anyone knows about the musical side of things, what it takes for songs to fill venues, don't hesitate to reply/PM.
#27
Keep the dream, but recognise that there's a lot of work to be done before that. In fact, don't even concentrate on that dream as of yet. Work on yourself first, then your local area. If your local area sucks, move onto somewhere else. Once you build up a following, you'll get more label interest. It's what happened with us. That first bit is quite possibly the hardest to do, but with a good work ethic, anyone has a shot. Once you have management and a label, doors open. However, labels and management companies- and I mean REAL labels and management companies, not these working out of the basement types that offer you very little support- won't take someone on that isn't going to see them a return. Hell, the majority of studios I'm looking at won't take on projects that aren't worthwhile and will "sully" their good name.
#28
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Anyhow, if anyone knows about the musical side of things, what it takes for songs to fill venues, don't hesitate to reply/PM.



It doesn't matter at all what kind of music you write. As long as it's not like underground electronica or some really weird genre, you'll be okay.
#29
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#31



Oh god..

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#32
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You aren't going to sell out stadiums without coverage. You aren't going to get coverage without a major label backing you. You aren't going to get a major label to back you without a HUGE following of fans in your area. You aren't going to get a following of fans until you spend every night practicing, or gigging.


In short, no.

I could not have put that any better if I tried.