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I have always been interested in WW2 reenacting and as I arise in ages I have chosen to join 10st Airborne and 9th SS, so I was wondering,

Do any of you Reenact?.. What era/Unit?.. Any expireiences?...

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#6
I did greek and medieval reenactments for a while. It was fun but I got injured a few too many times and too seriously to carry on and still consider myself sane.

I would think world war two reinactments are a bit safer in that respect because you don't have people running at you with maces, spears, swords and axes all the time...
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stop that


DIEDIT: i was in the real world war though


Ok I will stop saying ty and now end my threads with: Thankya kindly...
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I did greek and medieval reenactments for a while. It was fun but I got injured a few too many times and too seriously to carry on and still consider myself sane.

I would think world war two reinactments are a bit safer in that respect because you don't have people running at you with maces, spears, swords and axes all the time...



just machineguns, artillery, red barons

and according to my favorite history documentation (blackadder) wooden sticks.

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#9
I reenact it in video games.

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#10
I was in Oklahoma D-day which is kind of a reenactment. It's the world's largest scenario paintball game and you do WW2 battles all week which lead up to the big battle of D-Day. Not exactly the same but close. It was fun as hell though.
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#11
I'm trying to become a Civil war recreationist. But I have yet to succeed. WW2 recreation sounds bad ass though. Machine guns? What?
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Quote by Silver-spear94
just machineguns, artillery, red barons

and according to my favorite history documentation (blackadder) wooden sticks.

Actually, the swagger stick is encased in leather, so it's not just a wooden stick. And you wouldn;t want to face a jerry machine gun nest without one, what?
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Quote by Silver-spear94
just machineguns, artillery, red barons

and according to my favorite history documentation (blackadder) wooden sticks.


Yes but all those things will be firing blanks.
Don't get me wrong, blanks can be dangerous. I know a guy who lost an arm during an English civil war reinactment when some idiot set the powder off too early but still there is no physical contact involved in firing blanks at eachother. On the other hand, you can blunt a sword or an axe or a spear but it is still a heavy and sometimes still quite sharp piece of metal being swung about. Not to mention maces, that are just as deadly on a reeinactment field as they were on ancient battlefields because they are meant to be blunt.
In fact people with maces are the thing that injured me most. I was knocked out and concussed at least four times by somebody misjudging their swing with a mace. I also lost two teeth and suffered a fractured jaw from one but that was because it flew out of somebody's hand and into my face...
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#17
Paintballing count?

I'm considering buying some Airsoft gear, one of my friends is into it so I might try to get a group of us out in the woods by my house.
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#18
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I'd rather not reenact the deaths of thousands of people in the name of capitalist imperialism, actually.


WW1 and 2 weren't imperialist from the allied perspective, they actually weren't imperialist from the central powers in ww1.
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WW1 and 2 weren't imperialist from the allied perspective, they actually weren't imperialist from the central powers in ww1.

Note - capitalist imperialism. They were a war of economies, a war of the owners of production - elites using the poor and the exploitable for their own means.
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Note - capitalist imperialism. They were a war of economies, a war of the owners of production - elites using the poor and the exploitable for their own means.


The communists had just as much imperialism as the capitalists. Communism is just as much about using the poor for work, the only difference is that in a communist system, everyone's equally as poor.
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WW1 and 2 weren't imperialist from the allied perspective, they actually weren't imperialist from the central powers in ww1.


Yes they were. The allies did some pretty terrible things during world war two in the name of keeping their intrests intact for when the war was over. The reasons for the allies going to war aren't even a just as everyone likes to believe either. Before Germany started to threaten their power, most of the allied nations would gladly have jumped into bed with Hitler to stop the spread of communism. As it turned out they ended up jumping into bed with Stalin to stop facism.

World war one was even worse in that respect. It was a war between empires over territory. Nothing more.
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Fascism was about conquering and creating a master race under Hitler. In that case, yes I would happily take part in killing racist, evil pawns.
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The communists had just as much imperialism as the capitalists. Communism is just as much about using the poor for work, the only difference is that in a communist system, everyone's equally as poor.

Absolutely, it was just as disgusting.

Sorry, what's your point? Both world wars were horrible horrible incidences in our human history and I find it deeply distasteful for them to be reenacted and glorified.
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Absolutely, it was just as disgusting.

Sorry, what's your point? Both world wars were horrible horrible incidences in our human history and I find it deeply distasteful for them to be reenacted and glorified.


I see it as educating the masses and yourself on life of a soldier in that time period(to an extent) the reason it is called living history lol
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I see it as educating the masses and yourself on life of a soldier in that time period(to an extent) the reason it is called living history lol


I see it as the same. I abhor war in all its forms but wars have shaped the past and they continue to shape the future. History is important and reinactments are a good way of teaching people about their history.
To be honest, if I were to get back into it, I wouldn't go back to doing battles. Not only because it is too dangerous but also because I don't like the idea of fighting anymore.
Reenactments aren't just about the battles after all. The living history projects are just as important.
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I see it as the same. I abhor war in all its forms but wars have shaped the past and they continue to shape the future. History is important and reinactments are a good way of teaching people about their history.
To be honest, if I were to get back into it, I wouldn't go back to doing battles. Not only because it is too dangerous but also because I don't like the idea of fighting anymore.
Reenactments aren't just about the battles after all. The living history projects are just as important.


If its about teaching people history why not have holocaust re-enactments?
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Yes they were. The allies did some pretty terrible things during world war two in the name of keeping their intrests intact for when the war was over. The reasons for the allies going to war aren't even a just as everyone likes to believe either. Before Germany started to threaten their power, most of the allied nations would gladly have jumped into bed with Hitler to stop the spread of communism. As it turned out they ended up jumping into bed with Stalin to stop facism.

World war one was even worse in that respect. It was a war between empires over territory. Nothing more.



That's a pretty hotly disputed issue. I don't completely disagree with you, but you shouldn't present it as fact.

EDIT: Also, so off-topic it hurts.
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That's a pretty hotly disputed issue. I don't completely disagree with you, but you shouldn't present it as fact.

EDIT: Also, so off-topic it hurts.


Just to clarify, which part are you refering to when you say 'hotly disputed'?

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If its about teaching people history why not have holocaust re-enactments?


Because that would be in horrible taste. Living history works well for some things and not at all well for others. The holocaust is one of the latter.
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#30
you know guys, it'd be pretty easy to re-enact WW1.

dig a big hole and fill it with water, lice and rats, and get some beer bellied guys in tank helmets to shoot at you 24 hours a day from fixed machine guns.

second world war would be harder, because there was no defined front line. While we were fighting the nazis, the US was fighting japan. The russians were running covert ops and so were the US and the UK. so it would be kinda hard to re-enact.

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#31
Quote by Silver-spear94
you know guys, it'd be pretty easy to re-enact WW1.

dig a big hole and fill it with water, lice and rats, and get some beer bellied guys in tank helmets to shoot at you 24 hours a day from fixed machine guns.

second world war would be harder, because there was no defined front line. While we were fighting the nazis, the US was fighting japan. The russians were running covert ops and so were the US and the UK. so it would be kinda hard to re-enact.


They don't reenact the whole war, just specific battles. It's popular in America to do with the Civil War.
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#33
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I'd rather not reenact the deaths of thousands of people in the name of capitalist imperialism, actually.

Right, the axis fought against capitalist imperialism, not tried to create an empire. Get your head out of your ass.
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Right, the axis fought against capitalist imperialism, not tried to create an empire. Get your head out of your ass.

Most of the axis powers were fascist.

We could analyse in excruciating detail what it means to be fascist but you can't deny that fascism merges the business interests with the political elite. Fascism was dedicated to creating a vast imperial economy - we need look no further than German territorial ambitions of Lebensraum in Eastern Europe. (indeed, the very term 'Reich' is analogous to 'empire' and all it entails) The foundation of this new economy was to be based upon union of the owners of the means of production, on of the utterly mistaken view that this would create a better society for all - the fascist economic system was a tool for social engineering, in short - a conspiracy against the 'people' as such. Hence why it was utterly ideologically opposed to the USSR brand of communism which was dedicated, in theory, to supporting above all else the interests of the proletariat.

Thus fascism is not a traditional imperial force but, and I chose my words very carefully here, a capitalist-imperialist force.
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Most of the axis powers were fascist.

We could analyse in excruciating detail what it means to be fascist but you can't deny that fascism merges the business interests with the political elite. Fascism was dedicated to creating a vast imperial economy (indeed, the very term 'Reich' is analogous to 'empire' and all it entails) based upon the union of the owners of the means of production because of the utterly mistaken view that this would create a better society for all - the fascist economic system was a tool for social engineering, in short - a conspiracy against the 'people' as such. Hence why it was utterly ideologically opposed to the USSR brand of communism which was dedicated, in theory, to supporting above all else the interests of the proletariat.

Thus fascism is not a traditional imperial force but, and I chose my words very carefully here, a capitalist-imperialist force.

USSR.

EDIT: you meant the axis wanted capitalism then eh?
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USSR.

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EDIT: you meant the axis wanted capitalism then eh?

Undeniably. Behind all of the folklorique rhetoric of fascism it was committed in no uncertain terms to maintaining a capitalist system, I don't think we can deny that.
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The allies weren't fighting for imperialism, as they weren't the aggressors. And the USSR was certainly not fighting for capitalism. I didn't read ur post before i posted because it was all wall like.
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The allies weren't fighting for imperialism, as they weren't the aggressors. And the USSR was certainly not fighting for capitalism. I didn't read ur post before i posted because it was all wall like.

Right, read it and maybe we can discuss properly? The distinction between Axis and Allies is largely, I think, academic and far away from the actual point, anyway. The war was vastly and disgustingly profitable for the European elite in all countries and vastly detrimental to the poor everywhere.
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Re-enact wars? Sounds fucking stupid.

Kind of agree.

What i don't get is, how do you know when you are hit? I am assuming you pretend to die, but with things like paintball, you think "ok, if i get hit, its gonna hurt, and i will miss out on the action of the rest of the game", so thats the driving force, but with re-enactment, surely its just like, ok, they pointed the gun at me, fired some blanks, now i fall over and lay down for a bit.
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