#1
hi,

i'm relatively new to the guitar scene so don't know much about the best accessories to grab, specifically effects pedals. i have a prs singlecut, marshall mg dfx 100 (it is a little more powerful than needed considering i play at home, but i got it at a good price) and boss dd7.

i've been listening to a lot of john mayer and wouldn't mind simulating a simlar tone if possible with either my rig or suggestions as to what i could buy (bare in mind i don't have a massive budget, probably around 100 quid at most).

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

njayj
#2
for a good blues tone, im sorry to be the one to say this, but a new amp is what you need

maybe save up a bit more and try a cheaper fender amp. maybe a vibrochamp XD or a champ 600 with an overdrive, EQ and maybe a reverb
#3
How much is a 100 quid in $s or euros ? and I like to see a pic of your singlecut if you have one. I love those guitars, I have one (pic´s in my profile). If you can afford a fender then go for it, great for blues those amps.
#4
Quote by jaybals
for a good blues tone, im sorry to be the one to say this, but a new amp is what you need

maybe save up a bit more and try a cheaper fender amp. maybe a vibrochamp XD or a champ 600 with an overdrive, EQ and maybe a reverb

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The PRS Singlecut is an awesome guitar, and you aren't making it justice with a Marshall MG100DFX.

The amps jaybals suggested are pretty good choices.

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(...) singlecut (...) I love those guitars, I have one (pic´s in my profile).

sstony, your Singlecut is gorgeous, man!
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Quote by sstony
How much is a 100 quid in $s or euros ? and I like to see a pic of your singlecut if you have one. I love those guitars, I have one (pic´s in my profile). If you can afford a fender then go for it, great for blues those amps.
You can Google it easily you know. "100 pounds in USD". It's $160.
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#6
If you save up for £210 you can get an ME70. I have one and it is well worth the money.
#7
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You can Google it easily you know. "100 pounds in USD". It's $160.

Nothing wrong with a little conversation now is it ?
#8
i'm relatively new to the guitar scene so don't know much about the best accessories to grab, specifically effects pedals.

Don't waste money just buying pedals, I'm sorry to say you wont be able to get amazing tone through an mg. Don't bother trying loads of effects with an MG, you can't polish a turd. You should save up for and amp.

http://www.dv247.com/guitars/marshall-ma50c-guitar-valve-amp-combo--67735
Or if you don't want to save up too much, try this.
http://www.imuso.co.uk/Amplifiers/Amplifiers-By-Instrument/Electric-Guitar-Amplifiers/9372-/Blackheart-BH5-112-Little-Giant-5-Watt-Electric-Guitar-Valve-Combo-Amplifier?utm_source=googleproduct
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#9
thanks for all the suggestions.

from the amp suggestions they seem to be at 5 watts, i know my watt value at 100 is probably overkill for home play, but the watt value, is that just down to how load the amplifier is or does it have some bearing on the quality?

also, is it worth me selling my current amp and maybe purchasing just a cabinet and then buying amp heads instead?
#10
For blues a small tube combo for home use would be a lot more ideal than a 100 watt solid state rig.

Depending on what type of blues tone you are after, a nice Vox AC15 or Blues Jr would likely fit the bill well.

Having a nice PRS Single cut deserves a nice tube amp imo. Or you are selling your guitar and yourself short.
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#11
I agree with most people that posted, get a new amp. Seeing your budget, you'll have to save up. If you save just a little bit, you can get this: http://www.thomann.de/gb/laney_cub10.htm

But if I were you, I'd save some more and get this http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_super_champ_xd.htm which is actually a pretty good amp. It'll get you going for some while, especially for some John Mayer tone. Next thing to get is an OD, probably a TS-9 is you're looking for those Mayer tones.
#12
About your wattage question, no, wattage doesn't equal quality.
I'd suggest you save up and get a Valve Junior, Fender Super Champ XD, or maybe another small tube combo.
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#13
Quote by njayj
thanks for all the suggestions.

from the amp suggestions they seem to be at 5 watts, i know my watt value at 100 is probably overkill for home play, but the watt value, is that just down to how load the amplifier is or does it have some bearing on the quality?

also, is it worth me selling my current amp and maybe purchasing just a cabinet and then buying amp heads instead?

Nah, watts have absolutely zero bearing on the quality of an amp - it's just a figure relating to power.

The MG isn't a great amp, it's big, loud and unspectacular and it's probably worst at blues-type tones because those are traditionally characterised by mild tube breakup...it's not out and out distortion but it's not clean either. Those sounds are the hardest ones to simulate and pretty much impossible for a typical analogue solid state amp...some of the modellers do a pretty got fist of it but they still struggle to replicate the dynamics and responsiveness of a tube amp.

Don't bother just buying a head as the cab isn't up to much either, if you're going to get a new amp then start from scratch. If you want a stop gap then you could *try* something like a Boss Blues Driver or Digitech Screaming Blues...don't buy a new one, look second hand (however, try a new one in a shop with the same amp ). They'll get you closer to the sound you want than the amp will, but if those sounds are what you want then long term you've really got the wrong amp.
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#15
sell your mg and buy a bugera v22 or v55
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#16
based on all that has been said, i feel i may have made a very bad choice when buying my marshell amp.

cheers for all the suggestions. i've got a lot of thinking to do. i'll go down to my local store and see if they have these amps in store and check them out.

thanks again for all the suggestions, much appreciated.

njayj
#18
I got the same guitar as you and can get a really great blues tone with the neck pickup using a marshall TSL60 but they're probably too expensive. Tbh i think you should save up and maybe look at getting a small tube combo like a fender blues junior or something
#19
Quote by daliksheppy
If you save up for £210 you can get an ME70. I have one and it is well worth the money.


a multi-fx into a marshall mg??? that's going to sound horrible.

TS, you aren't going to be able to get a mayer tone with any marshall amp (other than a bluesbreaker perhaps), let alone an MG.
#20
Quote by hardrockerdave9
Don't waste money just buying pedals, I'm sorry to say you wont be able to get amazing tone through an mg. Don't bother trying loads of effects with an MG, you can't polish a turd. You should save up for and amp.


Actually, you CAN polish a turd! Myth busted!

Back on topic, like many of the others have said, you're going to need a new amp. You can probably sell your MG for a decent amount too.
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#21
Quote by sstony
How much is a 100 quid in $s or euros ? and I like to see a pic of your singlecut if you have one. I love those guitars, I have one (pic´s in my profile). If you can afford a fender then go for it, great for blues those amps.


my first proper guitar (i don't really count the budget bundle pack guitar), my guitar teacher helped me pick it out. such an awesome guitar. love playing on this.

your satin singlecut look nice!
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#22
WOOHOO!!! got my fender blue's junior! cost me a bit, but so worth it!

thanks everyone for the info. now to enjoy discovering the joy's the amp.

cheers again people!

nJayJ
#23
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Quote by njayj
based on all that has been said, i feel i may have made a very bad choice when buying my marshell amp.
njayj



Don't sweat it, most people buy crappy amps their first time out. For bedroom playing a small tube combo, or lunchbox head with a small cabinet would be ideal. Throw a tubescreamer in front of a valve jr, or champ 600, and you will probably be pretty happy with the sound you get.

EDIT: guess I didn't read far enough to see that you already bought an amp lol.
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#27
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congratulating people on getting their dream amp... or just another in a long series of amps hehe
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