#1
Ok, so I've got an Ibane RGR321, and Ive heard that UG seems to have a positive opinion on this guitar.
It's quite cheap and comes with the basic qualities that you would need (24 frets, bolt on (but thin) neck, passive humbuckers, fixed bridge).

As I'm not buying a new guitar straight away, how could I mod my current guitar to make it a better metal guitar so it sounds/plays better and to make it worth more.

The only obvious modification I can think of is to install active pups, but what else can I do?
#2
You may need to do extra routing to install active pickups, you could also do the 18Volt mod to actives if you wish.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1254306&highlight=18v+mod

There is no real way that you could make your guitar worth more than what it was to start with. But you could change the hardware for better sustain / tone, and a different nut / locking tuners to help with tuning stability.

Also, look on the GB&C forum if you need help with modifcations, or more ideas



EDIT: I notice that you have a Peavy Vypyr amp? Active pickups and modelling amps dont usually sound good together. I HATE to say this but, if you want a metal tone, It would be wiser to spend money on an amp built to play metal, than new pickups.

Also, what Active pickups are you looking at? If you dont want to upgrade the amp, It would be wiser to use passives with that guitar. If your looking at good, reasonable priced pickups, look at Irongear, they have a good variety of pickups
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#3
Exactly what do you not like about the guitar? This guy as got the same guitar as you and his tone is good for metal I guess. Spending 150-200 $ to install a pair of active pickups isn't gonna do alot. Buy a new amp or practise instead.
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#4
there is always the same things to change, pickups, hardware, etc.
in your case i would recomend to change only one pickup, the one you most use to a better one and let the others, it wouldnt cos too much
#5
Imo installing actives in a guitar that came with passives will only de-value it seeing as you're cutting out wood from the guitar. Just install some aftermarket passives if you want the active sound without re-routing I;ve heard DImarzio D-activators are pretty good? But I'm not speaking from experiance so idk.
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#6
You can't make it worth more, it doesn't work like that.

What other equipment do you haev and what's wrong with your sound at the moment?
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#7
It is a great guitar but by no means special so it'll be difficult. If you're planning to sell it somewhere in the near future you'd have to modify it. Changing the exterior (add artwork or modify the paint job, hardware, etc.) or adding something of a famous brand can do the trick (nothing sells your instrument better than "DiMarzio pickups installed" or something like that). If you add straplocks and a good strap, change some knobs, add a kill-switch, I dunno, that kind of stuff, and your whole investment ends up costing 160 bucks you can round it off to 200, etc.

Keep in mind that if you want to make some money (or lose as little as possible) the trick is to look for bargains (for instance, if someone's selling a couple of 2nd hand Schaller Locking tuners for a reasonable price, that's the kind of stuff you should go for, altho I wouldn't know why you'd need those since your guitar has a locking nut) but I'd say the most important thing is for you to have fun while playing on that instrument so maybe you shouldn't bother too much about the money

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#8
Ok since when do you need to mod a guitar to install EMGs?

EMGs are a direct retro fit into the TSs guitar, and the control cavity will have enough room for one battery, may be even two.




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#9
You can upgrade the tuners and the bridge, too. And you don't necessarily have to install ACTIVE pickups. Some quality passive p/u's would be an upgrade, unless you prefer active ones.
#10
I'd recommend going with higher-quality passives if I were you. Here are some suggestions:

Pretty much any DiMarzio high-gain pickups are good. D-Activators are good at getting an active pickup feel without having to worry about routing and batteries. I'd also recommend DiMarzio Air Norton with the Tone Zone, or a set of matching Evolution pickups (which are going for pretty cheap these days).

Seymour Duncan also have some amazing passives. I'm using the JB/'59 set right now. (JB in Bridge, '59 in neck. Feels good man.)

Or... if you have some serious money to drop on pickups, go with Bareknuckle pickups.
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#11
Toss some EMG's in it... you'll legit think you have a new guitar...

and yea you don't need to route a guitar for EMG's :s ive put them in three guitars, i dunno what you lads are talking about by routing

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#12
Thanks, I think I would go for high end passives to avoid routing and all that.
So which are the good passive pickups?

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EDIT: I notice that you have a Peavy Vypyr amp? Active pickups and modelling amps dont usually sound good together. I HATE to say this but, if you want a metal tone, It would be wiser to spend money on an amp built to play metal, than new pickups.

Also, what Active pickups are you looking at? If you dont want to upgrade the amp, It would be wiser to use passives with that guitar. If your looking at good, reasonable priced pickups, look at Irongear, they have a good variety of pickups


Also this isn't true, I've played EMGs through a Vypyr, and if anything, it sounds better.
#13
IMNSHO mods you do to a guitar decrease not increase value. If you are looking for an investment look else where. Mods should only be done to make a guitar fit you. No other reason.
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#14
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Thanks, I think I would go for high end passives to avoid routing and all that.
So which are the good passive pickups?


Also this isn't true, I've played EMGs through a Vypyr, and if anything, it sounds better.


*cough* I said usually, usually they dont sound good together. I havent played those pickups through that amp, which is why I didnt say they don't sound good.
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#15
if you are looking for some high end passive pups then look at Bareknuckle's. currently im saving up for some nailbombs and im going to install them into my les paul. you can check out what some of the other pickups sound like too on youtube
#16
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Ok since when do you need to mod a guitar to install EMGs?

EMGs are a direct retro fit into the TSs guitar, and the control cavity will have enough room for one battery, may be even two.


Yes this I am pretty sure I have enough space in my RG3EX1 to fit 2 9V batteries and still have some space around for something in my cavity so the TS won't have any problems just using a single 9V battery.

And for the first part everyone either seems to think that the EMG pickups require a different route or that the battery needs to be within it's own separate route because having it in the control cavity would be too messy or it won't fit or something.

As for stuff to change some other ones that aren't really needed would be new tuners or a new nut or even new saddles or even simple stuff like changing all of your hardware over to black (not cosmo black mind you) so you have a blacked out guitar. Of course it won't make it sound any metal but it will look more metal.
#17
Active pickups aren't always an upgrade, i can't stand the sound of actives to be honest. Plus my BKP's have as much output as most actives.

You can't add value to your guitar, any modifications devalue it, in order to improve its playability maybe upgrade the bridge, tuners, nut etc, get a good setup?

To improve sound new amp and pickup swap but before the new amp i wouldn't bother with pickups.
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Active pickups aren't always an upgrade, i can't stand the sound of actives to be honest. Plus my BKP's have as much output as most actives.

You can't add value to your guitar, any modifications devalue it, in order to improve its playability maybe upgrade the bridge, tuners, nut etc, get a good setup?

To improve sound new amp and pickup swap but before the new amp i wouldn't bother with pickups.

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#20
Get a new nut, A Dan Erlewine quality refret and if it's a bolt on get a Vintique stainless steel insert style mod, Unless you're going to put tapered neck shims in.

Well, You don't have to get these but they're all good. For a casual player it can be more difficult to settle on anything... (But for a do it yourselfer, Not so hard...)
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#21
Sigh... for christ sake people...

I left this site over a year ago because everyone on here had no clue what they were talking about...

EMG's suck. End of story. There are about 25 other passive pickups out there that sound more alive then EMG's ever will. More gain =/= better sound, metal or not.

To answer the TS question. There isn't much you can do to really make the guitar "more valuable" If it means a lot to you then thats all that matters. If your content with your sound then don't worry about changing anything. Its more the guitar itself that makes it valuable. Example, old CBS strats sucked, they had huge gaps in the neck, shittly quality, and now their worth more money then any guitar I bet any of you have seen.
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