#1
Now the first person who replies i don't wanna hear its all about the amps. Well duh, i know that kirk uses randalls and James uses Diezel amps and thats where most of their sound comes from. I just want to know what pedals and effects can get me close to the black albums tones.

thanks for any help
#2
well...what gear are you using currently?
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#3
Dude, their amps go waaaaaaaaayyyyy further than that. Theres mesa boogies thrown in there, dual rectifiers and triaxis, i dont even think kirk uses his randall live.
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#4
esp ltd kh-602 some old g21 pro effects system (it nails the clean tones) and a 1965 fender bassman with none original cabinet (different speakers for bttr metal tones)
#5
i realize eyeofthestorm id be typing for days if i did. but kirk uses randall for recording
#6
Check out YouTube demos of the Digitech TL-2 distortion pedal, it should be good for Metallica.
#8
Obviously invest in a distortion pedal to fit Metallica's sound. Your amp has fantastic cleans, but lacks dist. obviously.

I'll recommend:

Radial Tonebone Hot British
Tech 21 Sansamp GT-2
TC Electronics Nova Drive
Blackstar HT-DISTX

All these pedals can pull of a Metallica tone. Just scoop the mids, and boost the bass and treble and you got a Metallica tone.
#9
They have used tons of amps over the years..i think they also use multiple amps at once to give a thick sound, plus every guitar they have pretty much ever used as had emg actives. Plus for lead stuff you need a good wah
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#10
Quote by camaross427
They have used tons of amps over the years..i think they also use multiple amps at once to give a thick sound, plus every guitar they have pretty much ever used as had emg actives. Plus for lead stuff you need a good wah

Yep.

Nothing you can do, except get a stupid high gain amp (IE something that emulates a Recto) and work from there.
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#11
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pretty impressive but i sounds a little on the a7x side


Well you can always back off the gain a little.
#12
My bugera 333 nails metallica tones without even trying.
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#13
Don't they use a lot of rack gear too?
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#14
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i realize eyeofthestorm id be typing for days if i did. but kirk uses randall for recording


No he doesn't.

The Randall is his backstage practice amp...
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#15
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No he doesn't.

The Randall is his backstage practice amp...


Exactly, I think kirk uses practicaly the same amps as james for recording, I can never tell the guitars apart untill the solos, especially on death magnetic
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#17
That band is freakking old and they didn´t just use one brand.

Your best bet is:
Take amp
Scoop Mids
Boost highs
Add gain, but not too much.
Add dist. pedal if you have one.

Hum-bucking pickups.
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#19
What people have suggested here is true.

In order to nail Metallica's tone, while, good luck to be honest.

However, if you want a tone in the ball park of Metallica, using your current gear, I still stick to my word to get a distortion pedal, or sell your amp for something better voice for metal.
#20
spend $100 on a digitech metal master it \s heavey metal distort but has a morph knob to change from wolfmothr to metallica slayer sounds etc!
#21
I use a Digitech Distortion Factory on the Metal Zone setting (shut it) and I get a great metal tone. I use it with my bass and mids on 4, and treble on 6, then play around with the EQ on the pedal. You could prolly do it with the TL-2 though. Ive also heard great things about Metal Muff too.
#22
Quote by Lucd
spend $100 on a digitech metal master it \s heavey metal distort but has a morph knob to change from wolfmothr to metallica slayer sounds etc!


Talk about crappy tone. That pedal has the most unbearable tone I've ever heard from a pedal, and I used to own a BOSS MT-2, so that's saying something.
#23
Quote by eyeofthestorm08
Exactly, I think kirk uses practicaly the same amps as james for recording, I can never tell the guitars apart untill the solos, especially on death magnetic

That's because James records all of the rhythm parts, and Kirk records most of the soloing.

TS, Metallica's guitars are heavily layered. I believe there were 80-some layers of overdubbing on Master of Puppets, so good luck getting that guitar tone. They pretty heavily scooped the mids from Kill 'Em All through Master of Puppets, ...And Justice For All had NO midrange, it was all highs and lows, and they started using the midrange pretty heavily since 1991. They've also backed way down on the gain since the 80s.
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