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#1
As a few of you may have seen me mention in the guitar wood thread, I'm planning to make an electric for my year 12 major work, including neck and fretboard. I've made a body before but this will be my first time doing a neck and fretboard. Ahhh new experiences!

I was going to do a Les Paul style body but have since decided I'd rather do a superstrat resembling the Ibanez S, but with a thicker body. Neck will be 24 frets and 25.5" scale length.

Here are pics of my timber and my scale drawing on MDF:





For the body I'm using Tasmanian Blackwood, Queensland Maple for the neck, and New Guinea Rosewood for the fretboard. I'll probably make the neck 3 piece with a strip of left over Makore down the middle.

I should be starting the build in the coming week, which will probably be spent making some practice necks out of pine.

A couple of questions I'd like to ask here though:

As I'm planning to make it string through body, where can I get some ferrules? I've looked through StewMac and some australian luthier sites and haven't been able to find any. Unless I've missed them?

Also, what pickups would you UG users recommend? I'd like to get a heavier sound for metal, but similar to Adam Jones from Tool, though I know he gets most of his tone from his 3 heads.
Last edited by Steve Holt at Jun 12, 2010,
#2
You can find ferrules on Stew-Mac here. Good luck with the build
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#3
Oh wow! How on earth did I miss that?

Thankyou!

And in terms of pickups, another sound I'd like to come close to would be Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth's
Last edited by Steve Holt at Jan 28, 2010,
#5
Quote by Steve Holt
Oh wow! How on earth did I miss that?

Thankyou!


You would not believe the amount of time I've spent on StewMac (and other parts sites) familiarizing myself with available parts. Glad I could help
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#6
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Sounds awesome man, post pics when done


Haha thanks. Might be a bit of a wait, I have three terms to do it until the end of HSC
#7
luthiersupplies.com.au
thats where i get all my stuff
they have ferrules
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#9
looks sweet man but I'm pretty sure the s series is a little smaller than what you have drawn there. Ether way this looks good I'm gonna watch this
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#10
Yeah I just used my strat copy as a guide and tried to change it to be more of an S style, it's not perfect though, but I like the body to be larger. It's gonna be a carved top as well, which should be an interesting thing for me to try.

I'm fairly sure I'll have a double period in the woodwork rooms tomorrow so I'll have some time to start on a practice neck. Should be fun

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#11
Quote by Steve Holt
Oh wow! How on earth did I miss that?

Thankyou!

And in terms of pickups, another sound I'd like to come close to would be Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth's


For Mikael Akerfeldt's tone, best pickups I've found for it are either the PRS Tremonti set, or a set of Bareknuckle Nailbombs. Personally I'd go for the latter though. This build looks like it could be very good
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#12
Hmm. I'm thinking that if I have time left over after I finish, which is likely, I'll probably make a guitar case and pedalboard/case out of spare wood in the storerooms as side projects, could be some additional fun .

Thanks for the displays of interest everyone!

Sadly I was supposed to have double industrial tech for my first two periods today, but since it was the first day back times got screwed around and we didn't get to start anything. Going to cut my template and start on a practice neck on monday though, so I'm pretty keen for the weekend to pass

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Sounds awesome man, post pics when done

Don't worry about pictures, I have to document pretty much every process I do in photographs for my folio, so all my progress photos will also go up on here
Last edited by Steve Holt at Jan 29, 2010,
#13
So I'm drawing up my neck template and I've come up with a question. Does the size of headstock and positioning of pegs matter at all? Or am I good to freehand the headstock?

Edit: Here's the template with headstock

Last edited by Steve Holt at Jan 30, 2010,
#14
An ideal headstock shape has the strings staying relatively straight from the nut to the peg, aside from that it just has to be strong enough to take the string pressure. Which that one surely will be
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#15
That headstock is fine; assuming 3x3 tuners arranged in a traditional Gibson pattern.

Doesn't really fit the body IMO but oh well. Whatever floats your boat
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#16
I'd probably go with a 6-inline blade headstock but there's nothing wrong with the one you've got there.

Are you looking to paint this or leave it natural?
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#17
Yeah the tuners are gonna be 3x3, I might decide to change the headstock yet, not sure.

And I'm definitely staining this badboy, probably a red burst, though since it'll be my first burst it may be a bit tricky

If the grain of the blackwood isn't all that nice then I'll just thin it and throw a nicely figured cap on there.

I'm so keen to start this tomorrow

Edit: Another question on pickups. I'm very interested in these nailbombs, but I'm under the impression that they're absolutely brutal. So I'm guessing if I wanted to do cleans then I'd have to have another pickup with less output? Or would I still be able to do nice cleans with a pair of nailbombs?

And would nailbombs cover a Mastodon-esque tone?
Last edited by Steve Holt at Jan 31, 2010,
#18
Small update

Finally got to do some practical work in class, so here's the always enthralling cutting of the templates!



My serious face:






Yeahboi:


Neck template:


Sanding down the neck profile:


More to come over the next week!
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#19
The Nailbombs have enough output to blow an old Crate practice amp They ARE absolutely brutal, but if your amp is biased and EQed properly, you can coax some cleans out of it, or just wire a parallel switch for it, or even just simply use a neck pickup for cleans.
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#20
Nice Apron, and like shin said, a parallel switch would be a good option.


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#21
Gotta love the aprons.

Got some more done today, though it was only a short class, since my school is fairly retarded.

Here's some wood porn after thicknessing:







As you may have seen, the ****ing thicknesser decided to dig into one of the pieces in a couple of places , luckily I still have about 4mm allowance.

And regarding the nailbombs. I am really bloody keen, but including shipping it comes to about $350 Australian for a covered set

I was thinking about getting some handwired by Mick Brierley in Australia instead. Decisions decisions....
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Last edited by Steve Holt at Apr 30, 2010,
#22
ha, got your wood from Anagote timbers I see

I was in Sydney for the weekend and I went there for a few hours and bought some timber, I love that place!

This build is looking nice to!
#23
Yeah I was pretty pleased with Anagote. Was tempted to buy some wenge for neck strips but it's bloody expensive! The blackwood came with a slight warp, but nothing a thicknesser couldn't fix.

Might still go get some wenge, not quite sure. I think we might have some Jarrah at school that I can use, anyone know if it'd be a good choice for a neck strip?
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#24
Jarrah will be fine for a neck strip.

They have a nice lot of Wenge there, I was so tempted to buy a slab of wenge and a slab of zebrano, but, like you said, its pretty expensive.

EDIT: I just remembered, Anagote have a piece of wenge, 700x70x20mm which may be big enough for your neck strip, instead of getting him to cut up a big slab of wenge.
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#25
Damn! Why does it have to be such a drive from the North Shore

Edit: Just getting my order from Aus Luthier Supplies ready. Damn their timber is expensive. Glad I got all mine for under $200.

Are carbon nuts any good? I was thinking of ordering a graph-tec nut from stewmac when I order my fretpress, though I dunno if I could take the waiting. Anywhere more local I can get a press?
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Last edited by Steve Holt at Feb 22, 2010,
#26
Graphite nuts are the shit. So is Tusq XL.
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#27
A shop near me [like 10 miles] has an online price of 153 GBP for a set of open Nailbombs.
I am so tempted its not even funny. =]
I really wanna know what all the hype is about, I've never heard anyone slag them off
#28
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A shop near me [like 10 miles] has an online price of 153 GBP for a set of open Nailbombs.
I am so tempted its not even funny. =]
I really wanna know what all the hype is about, I've never heard anyone slag them off

They're frikkin great, man A Bridge model Mule goes great for a neck pickup compliment to the Nailbomb too. And if you have an old shitty Crate and want to blow it up, play the Nailbomb through it! True story.
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#29
Finally got a bit more progess in, disappointed though. You'll see why soon enough.

So I decided on a 5 piece neck, Queensland Maple with two Jarrah strips.
Queensland Maple = 2x 28mm thick and 1x 10mm thick. Jarrah = 2x 6mm thick

I would have gotten Wenge or something like, but I found the Jarrah in the storeroom at school and figured it would be useful. So moving on.

Cutting the maple! I was forced to use the bandsaw because our school's tablesaw, it turns out, couldn't get the whole way through the maple without jamming three times. On the plus side, burnt maple smells amazing.


Here are the strips:







But whats this....?



So sadly.... The Jarrah I had was enough for about 5 of the 6mm strips, and the first strip cut fine, thicknessed fine. I cut a second strip, and just as I'm about to thickness it I noticed something. The god damn bandsaw had decided not to cut straight, despite my use of a guide, and had instead cut a curve at about the halfway point of the strip, making it about 3-4mm at the thinnest point, rendering that piece useless.

No biggie, I thought, so I cut another... Same thing again. Finally I decided I had about 10mm of Jarrah left to work with, and I would just take 4mm off with the thicknesser. Well it turns out the Jarrah had that horrible knotting on the last piece I was left with, and to me it looks like a bit of rot maybe?



I think I should still be able to use it though, seeing as it's one of the middle strips and the knot will be invisible. I'm not ruling out getting some other timber to use though. What do you guys think, should I keep it?

Edit: I might be able to glue the two ****up strips back together and thickness them down to 6mm... It's worth considering I think.
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Last edited by Steve Holt at Mar 15, 2010,
#30
Well. Been a while, still haven't been able to do much but today I did a bit of minor gluing:



NECK LAMINATES!!!!



It's a sandwich of Qld Maple, Jarrah, Maple, Jarrah, Maple

...Hopefully the glue lines won't show D:

In other news, since our school is lame and doesn't have a jointer, I tried to cut flat gluing surfaces on the two sides of the body with the table saw. The ****ing thing did not give a straight cut. I spent the rest of the lesson trying to plane both faces flat with a handplane, resulting in much rage and blisters. Hopefully next week I'll get it right
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#32
Duuuuuuuuuude If you did a full thickness LP with Tassie Blackwood you'd wanna be buying a nice thick padded leather strap. You're probably gonna be glad you went the other shape. My yr 12 DT work weighs like 9 kilos and it's about 5mm thinner than an ESP B series (bass) and only the wings are Tassie Blackwood. Nice neck btw, with that much Jarrah in it you shouldn't have many worries with warping.

Oh and this should be orgasmic when done. But if you do anything past staining it, I will hunt you down because just oil will make that blackwood pop.
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#33
Haha. I'm hoping the neck works out alright. I'm still contemplating chambering the Blackwood and throwing a cap on there with an f-hole sort of thing. All ideas at the moment though.
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#34
Even at a little thicker than an S series you should be within reason weight wise The body will be smaller than mine was and thinner + your bridge won't weigh over 250 grams alone. hahaha
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#35
Great progress today.

I'll let the photos speak...

Inspecting my gluing job: LOOKS GOOD





Balls to the bandsaw...





Look at that sexy Maple/Jarrah combination


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#36
NOBODY LOOK AT MY FACE






And that's as far as I got today. Truss rod routing, fretboard gluey-oning and possibly shaping happening next week

Things I have learnt so far:

-Queensland Maple smells amazing when burnt

-Tasmanian Blackwood smells (and tastes, according to my bold friend) like smoked ham.

-Jarrah, when burnt, smells like chocolate.

-Never count on a bandsaw to cut straight

-Never count on an old thicknesser to not dent your wood at random intervals

-If you're going to use a hand plane to get two surfaces flush for gluing. For the love of GOD set it to a minimal cutting depth and check for square REGULARLY. Otherwise you will be working fruitlessly for hours.
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Last edited by Steve Holt at Apr 30, 2010,
#38
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NOBODY LOOK AT MY FACE

-Queensland Maple smells amazing when burnt

-Tasmanian Blackwood smells (and tastes, according to my bold friend) like smoked ham.

-Jarrah, when burnt, smells like chocolate.

-Never count on a bandsaw to cut straight

-Never count on an old thicknesser to not dent your wood at random intervals

-If you're going to use a hand plane to get two surfaces flush for gluing. For the love of GOD set it to a minimal cutting depth and check for square REGULARLY. Otherwise you will be working fruitlessly for hours.


Yes, yes, yes, I too learned that, not that though. (all in order)


Damn apart from your fretboard you've used exactly the same woods I did for my yr12 build. It's gonna be one pretty guitar.
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#39
I can't wait to start on the body!

And for the fretboard I'm gonna end up staining it so it looks like the usual Rosewood you would find

How did yours turn out? What kind of mark did it get?
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Last edited by Steve Holt at Apr 30, 2010,
#40
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I can't wait to start on the body!

And for the fretboard I'm gonna end up staining it so it looks like the usual Rosewood you would find

How did yours turn out? What kind of mark did it get?


The DT major work probably saved me from utter failure as I didn't hand a finished assessment in twice. (My own stupid fault) But I finished up with high 70's for HSC mark and my teacher suspected my folder+build was a band 6 which was nice because my assessment mark was brought down to like the 50's by the two assessments.


I got lucky with my tassy oak it was slightly figured.

But same woods as you but with a Jarrah fretboard (lets face it it's certainly hard enough).

edit: Danish oil finish btw.
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