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#81
Alrighty then. Here are a few(well, 15 to be exact) pics of the old gal. First off, let me toss in a few of the details that I know about it, which will help as you view the pics.
The top is spruce, heavily aged with a lovely patina. The back is rosewood, also aged to perfection. I'm not quite sure of the wood used for the neck, but the fretboard is ebony. The face of the headstock is veneered with rosewood. The tuners are all functioning and are original. Check out the coloring of the tuner buttons. The saddle piece is, I think, maple and needs to be replaced. The damage is shown in the pic where the saddle is slanted. The crack is at the tip of the saddle, and runs from the base to the ridge of the soundboard. There's a pic of the sticker on the inside, but what you can't see is another sticker above the main one with signatures on it and dates. Also, and this is really wild, there is a paper coating on the entire inside of the bowl. It looks just like brown shipping paper and has the same appearance as if you were to paper mache a balloon, let it dry, pop the balloon and remove it and look inside. It's really weird, but also has really protected the interior surface of the bowl wood for over a century. This is so freaking cool for me to be sharing something this old with all of you. I still can't believe I have it to be quite honest. Ok, enough talk, on to the pics!

Oh, if UG's size limits kick in, I'll just add another post to continue them. K? Here we go:













Last edited by LeftyDave at Feb 14, 2010,
#82
That's what I thought would happen. Ok then, here's the other 7 pics:













#83
1897! Looks great for the age. You said you're going to restore it right?
#84
Quote by |Long|
1897! Looks great for the age. You said you're going to restore it right?


Yep, but it's going to take some time. The very first and foremost thing that needs to be done is to get her re-hydrated. The wood is extremely dried out. My Kentucky mandolin there in the first picture weighs like twice as much as the old timer. And she's so so delicate I'm actually afraid to touch it sometimes. I'll get over that no doubt.
Notice also that the way it was made it'll be a snap to convert it to lefty so that I can actually play it. New bridge and nut and that's it. No flipping the pick guard over or tail piece.
#85
I just remembered that you're a lefty, dave. Didn't quite think about it until I just saw your Kentucky mando.
Equipment:
- Art & Lutherie Cedar CW (SOLD! )
- Martin D-16RGT w/ LR Baggs M1 Active Soundhole Pickup
- Seagull 25th Anniversary Flame Maple w/ LR Baggs Micro EQ

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#86
How does the quality of construction hold up to new ages madolins? Looks well done, but I don't know anything about them. And yup, I must say your name is fitting.
#87
^ If I were to swap both mandolins year for year and make the Kentucky 113 years old, I'd have to say it would not be in near as good a shape as the Washburn is at that age. So there's a lot to be said for old school manufacturing, glues, workmanship and so on. It(the Washburn) has stood the test of time and is still in one piece. Perhaps the most amazing part is that the neck is still perfectly straight, and that's with no adjustable truss rod. There may be an embedded one that's not adjustable, but I don't know.
Just from doing a visual on both mando's, the Washburn was made to higher standards than the Kentucky.
Now, keep in mind that this is a lower end model from Washburn, and certainly no Gibson.
Imagine a Lloyd Loar Gibson mandolin from their golden era of the 1920's. I can certainly see why those are valued today in the thousands of dollars.
#88
And yet it has stood the test of time. That's awesome.
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#89
What does everyone do for practising here? I'm trying to get a solid plan together looking at pieces from lessons

1) Notes on the fretboard, go over them a few times linearly, then pick randoms
2) Chromatics, all patterns
3) Pull off & hammer on patterns
4) Bends down the neck with each finger and string - try to bend to exact pitch (half,whole etc)
5) Scalar runs sounding out each note
...
Doing it all a few times each with up/down/alt picking.
Then playing a new song/sing. I have a hard time with that (projecting my voice)
#90
I don't really practice at all. It's why I'm rubbish at playing. I enjoy learning about the guitar more so than playing it, to be honest.

Anyway, my brother's currently photoshooting the Lowden O-35 in my room with a black backdrop as we speak. Some of these pics are amazing. Many of you will need new pants/undergarments after seeing these. I'm going to have to just post a link to his flickr. There are way too many pics for me to just post.
Equipment:
- Art & Lutherie Cedar CW (SOLD! )
- Martin D-16RGT w/ LR Baggs M1 Active Soundhole Pickup
- Seagull 25th Anniversary Flame Maple w/ LR Baggs Micro EQ

Have an acoustic guitar? Don't let your guitar dry out! Click here.
#91
I don't even know what a Lowden is! And I've just fiddled with guitar for the last 8 years, now I'm set to really practice I don't know how I went so long without even knowing the notes on the fretboard.

(if you don't care about playing give me your Martin ... it suits me better - considering my name and all
#92
Quote by captivate
I don't really practice at all. It's why I'm rubbish at playing. I enjoy learning about the guitar more so than playing it, to be honest.

Anyway, my brother's currently photoshooting the Lowden O-35 in my room with a black backdrop as we speak. Some of these pics are amazing. Many of you will need new pants/undergarments after seeing these. I'm going to have to just post a link to his flickr. There are way too many pics for me to just post.


Can my breedlove+your lowden get a group photo someday?
#93
Probably not, LOL. It's going back to its owner in a day or two.
Equipment:
- Art & Lutherie Cedar CW (SOLD! )
- Martin D-16RGT w/ LR Baggs M1 Active Soundhole Pickup
- Seagull 25th Anniversary Flame Maple w/ LR Baggs Micro EQ

Have an acoustic guitar? Don't let your guitar dry out! Click here.
#94
How sad.

I'm with you on the practicing Cap, except I do love playing guitar. I just don't really like comitting to get better at it. I'm perfectly content with my skill level right now considering how much, or rather how little, I practice. I guess it gives me hope for my future when I decide to take it a bit more seriously.
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plexi


i realize the longshot that is. little giant to humongous one.


Rest In Peace Stevie Ray
#95
I have to really start practicing now. Finger exercises, scales, etc etc. Seeing as how I plan on studying guitar in college, and my next audition requires me to play some scales. I'm more so a fan of just playing though too, preferably in a group setting more than anything else. Part of the reasons I hate auditions I guess and why I'm intending to be a jazz guitar major.
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#96
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I have to really start practicing now. Finger exercises, scales, etc etc. Seeing as how I plan on studying guitar in college, and my next audition requires me to play some scales. I'm more so a fan of just playing though too, preferably in a group setting more than anything else. Part of the reasons I hate auditions I guess and why I'm intending to be a jazz guitar major.

All my life I've wanted to play with people, but no one who played guitar had the slightest skill level to play with (not saying I'm good, but they just picked up a guitar and learned some songs ... ie, can't play on their own). My only friend who I can play with, we only jam on campfire songs - Still fun, but I like the real jam sess idea.

EDIT:

I'm chording a song, since the UG version fails - hell it's time consuming to do.
Last edited by |Long| at Feb 15, 2010,
#97
Yeah, I've always played with other musicians through school-run groups. It's pretty fun.

And I just recorded the acoustic guitar part to this song I've been working on...after finishing, it ended up being just short of 10 minute long. I'm not sure if I miscounted while playing, or if I really wrote a long song. It changes tempo a few times (once from 110 to 72, then back to 110, then back to 72 for the remainder of the song). I'm thinking it'll end with some synth/maybe clarinet? solos.
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#98
Quote by clayonfire
Yeah, I've always played with other musicians through school-run groups. It's pretty fun.

And I just recorded the acoustic guitar part to this song I've been working on...after finishing, it ended up being just short of 10 minute long. I'm not sure if I miscounted while playing, or if I really wrote a long song. It changes tempo a few times (once from 110 to 72, then back to 110, then back to 72 for the remainder of the song). I'm thinking it'll end with some synth/maybe clarinet? solos.

Post it up when you're done! I have a song that I've never recorded and only have it on memory - safe to say each time I play it it changes ... who knows that it started out as.
#99
I've still got to record singing, bass, drums, synths, and the possible clarinet, EQ it and whatnot to make it sound the best if possibly can, and all that fun stuff. And I've got to do a bunch more songs before sometime near the end of march. I'm going to be busy busy.
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#101
I like it. It's a very nice song. and the Phoenix...sounds amazing. I'm still jealous.

The other day I stumbled across Sergio Altamura (spelling?) on youtube. First one I listened to was Final Blu...and whoa...That's some pretty interesting stuff. Then I listened to Down Roma traffic...that one is rather odd...
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#102
What pic's do you all use? I can't find a retailer who sells Jazz picks, or sharps for that matter so I am forced to file lame tear drops to points. Ugh.
#103
For electric I use tortex 1mm, but for my acoustic I use a "Cactus Pick", medium size. Or I just tough it up and use my fingernails or my thumb if I'm looking for that real warm sound. or an ebow. I wanna try a cello bow sometime.
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#104
Cactus pick? I'll look that up. I use my fingers a lot, but my fingerpicking needs a tune up now. I do a lot of the ol' thump though which I find works well with my singing and gets me in my favourite groove. I want my god damn JAZZ PICKS
#106
Quote by Silverstein14
I use a dunlop thumbpick + fingernails Random tortex pick for electric.

You like the thumbpicks? I can't stand those, they feel so unnatural.
#108
Quote by Silverstein14
Sure do! Havent used anything but for years now so. I love them.

I prefer the flesh of my thumb - I think it's more so because I have more control over the tone that way (much like nails > flesh for picking). What ever works though! I need new files to work these picks down haha.
#109
Oh but once you get used to the thumbpick, tone control isnt a problem! I guess it just takes time. The reason I dont use my thumbnail is because it feels like I have to hold my hand at an awkward position to actually get contact. Who knows, maybe Ill just eventually make my way to using my thumbnail
#110
Quote by Silverstein14
Oh but once you get used to the thumbpick, tone control isnt a problem! I guess it just takes time. The reason I dont use my thumbnail is because it feels like I have to hold my hand at an awkward position to actually get contact. Who knows, maybe Ill just eventually make my way to using my thumbnail

Maybe it's my hand position at my attempt at classical haha, but when I use the thump/slap my hand is pretty normal ... heh just found out that I can do pinch harmonics with my thumb (no nail) ... I need a FL on this bad boy now
#112
Quote by Silverstein14
Ive been working on this song for about 2-3 hours now, at approximately 1:45. So fun to play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PopKVxY_lvw

Im loving Craig D'Andrea these days. His stuff always seems super easy, but I always get deceived.

Wow, wow ... wow. His ability to keep the bass note and play the upper notes is much likes a classical player - but inverted. New artist to worship!

And that is by no means easy in any way - wish it was.
Last edited by |Long| at Feb 16, 2010,
#113
I'm using a Red Bear pick. It's synthetic tortoise shell. The damn thing cost me $20, but it was well worth the price. I haven't used any other pick for the last year.
Equipment:
- Art & Lutherie Cedar CW (SOLD! )
- Martin D-16RGT w/ LR Baggs M1 Active Soundhole Pickup
- Seagull 25th Anniversary Flame Maple w/ LR Baggs Micro EQ

Have an acoustic guitar? Don't let your guitar dry out! Click here.
#114
Quote by captivate
I'm using a Red Bear pick. It's synthetic tortoise shell. The damn thing cost me $20, but it was well worth the price. I haven't used any other pick for the last year.

20$ for a pic! that's instense. But the ultex are tortoise too, so I bet they are the same price.
#115
Quote by captivate
I'm using a Red Bear pick. It's synthetic tortoise shell. The damn thing cost me $20, but it was well worth the price. I haven't used any other pick for the last year.

I don't think I could ever bring myself to spend $20 on a pick. I lose them so often that I'd end up spending a fortune :P

I've always just used the meat of my fingers for finger-style. However I've been thinking of growing out my nails to see the difference. Any recommendation on length?
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It sounds good, it plays great, it's cheap as hell, why not? I don't care if it's made out of cardboard as long as it does what I need it to.
#116
Quote by clindage
I don't think I could ever bring myself to spend $20 on a pick. I lose them so often that I'd end up spending a fortune :P

I've always just used the meat of my fingers for finger-style. However I've been thinking of growing out my nails to see the difference. Any recommendation on length?

http://nadercg.com/nails.html
#118
Wow, that's a good site. Thanks
Quote by PSM
It sounds good, it plays great, it's cheap as hell, why not? I don't care if it's made out of cardboard as long as it does what I need it to.
#119
Quote by clindage
I don't think I could ever bring myself to spend $20 on a pick. I lose them so often that I'd end up spending a fortune :P

I've always just used the meat of my fingers for finger-style. However I've been thinking of growing out my nails to see the difference. Any recommendation on length?


I bought a key chain pick holding pouch so that I don't lose it.

Anyway, it's the best pick I've EVER used. I've tried all the common brands... dunlop nylons, jazz, tortex, ultex, etc. None of them compare to this thing. The depth of tone is just incredible.
Equipment:
- Art & Lutherie Cedar CW (SOLD! )
- Martin D-16RGT w/ LR Baggs M1 Active Soundhole Pickup
- Seagull 25th Anniversary Flame Maple w/ LR Baggs Micro EQ

Have an acoustic guitar? Don't let your guitar dry out! Click here.
#120
The best read that I've ever gotten with regards to nail length, filing, shape, and "theory" were some photocopies of (I believe) Pepe Romero's method. It was very complete, very informative, and very detailed if I remember correctly!

IMO, the polishing/final filing of the nail with the highest grit paper possible (found at hardware store) is the make or break when it comes to sound. You can INSTANTLY hear the difference between a polished nail and an unpolished one, and it gives you about 100x more control over the dynamics of the music.
My God, it's full of stars!