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I will probably be looking towards a low watt tube amp in the future depending on if I can sell current gears and come up with funds. Anyway what do you think is the best low watt tube amp on the market right now. Keeping Tone, Versatility, Reliability in mind as you suggest the amp.

Needs good clean, good OD, and can be pushed to metal with right pedal.

By low watt I mean 20 watts or less. Also prefer head rather than combo.

Thanks

Limit to amps that are available in the U.S. please

Also budget would be around $350 and prefer to go used if possible.
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I've heard alot about the Jet City and it's pretty much at the top of my list considering the price. I'm also liking the Egnater Rebel 20. The Blackstar won't help me as I'm in the US and the TransAtlantic hasn't been released and is way out of my price range.
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Quote by CrackTheSkye
I've heard alot about the Jet City and it's pretty much at the top of my list considering the price. I'm also liking the Egnater Rebel 20. The Blackstar won't help me as I'm in the US and the TransAtlantic hasn't been released and is way out of my price range.

HT-5 would be an option too.
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I don't like the Krank Jr's that much.

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^No, combo only for the V22

Blackstar HT-5 is pretty versatile, as is the JCA20H. Egnator Rebel 20, Vox Night Train, Blackheart Little Giant or Handsome Devil, and Orange Tiny Terror are all great suggestions.

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He asked for a tube amp, a HT-5 is a hybrid.
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How about a Peavey Valve King Royal 8? New, they run about $200. It isn't a fancy amp, but has good sound, especially for its size and (low) wattage. Plug into one at your music store and give it a try. I think you might be pleasantly surprised with what you will hear.
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Jet City. Or Vox Night Train. Or Bugera V22. Or Marshall 18w Clone if you have that much cash.
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How about a Peavey Valve King Royal 8? New, they run about $200. It isn't a fancy amp, but has good sound, especially for its size and (low) wattage. Plug into one at your music store and give it a try. I think you might be pleasantly surprised with what you will hear.


my brother picked this up when it was on sale for $80, I would not touch it, it sounds terrible. Cleans are maybe ok, but the built in overdrive is just atrocious, and using a distortion pedal it sounds bad as well. My HT-5 sounds worlds better than it, I'd even take a solid state valvetronix or something over it.
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Dude you're shilling this thing like you're getting a paycheck, what gives? I've played through one of these things, an to be entirely honest, ive had bowel movements that sound better.

I have a BH handsome devil and can't recommend this (or other low watt Blackhearts) for metal. They're excellent for blues and hard rock but metal is a stretch without a great pedal in front of it.
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Maybe a Marshall Class 5?
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Quote by CrackTheSkye

Needs good clean, good OD, and can be pushed to metal with right pedal.

By low watt I mean 20 watts or less. Also prefer head rather than combo.
Limit to amps that are available in the U.S. please
Also budget would be around $350 and prefer to go used if possible.

do you have this pedal?
have you checked craigslist?
anyway to increase the budget?
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Quote by CrackTheSkye
I will probably be looking towards a low watt tube amp in the future depending on if I can sell current gears and come up with funds. Anyway what do you think is the best low watt tube amp on the market right now. Keeping Tone, Versatility, Reliability in mind as you suggest the amp.

Needs good clean, good OD, and can be pushed to metal with right pedal.

By low watt I mean 20 watts or less. Also prefer head rather than combo.

Thanks

Limit to amps that are available in the U.S. please

Also budget would be around $350 and prefer to go used if possible.


metal, 20 watts, and low budget don't always go together. Especially for a head AND cab.

Why 20 watts?

Greg has some good questions. Also, what kind of metal and what is your closest major city. Is the $350 just for the head. You could probably find a used Peavey XXX or Ultra with your budget but it will be a combo.
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Quote by Cathbard
He asked for a tube amp, a HT-5 is a hybrid.

Whats it matter if its not competely tube or not? If it sounds good to his ears thats all that matters.

And yes I would recommend the HT-5, it has a lot of features that other amps in the same category don't.
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Whats it matter if its not competely tube or not? If it sounds good to his ears thats all that matters.

And yes I would recommend the HT-5, it has a lot of features that other amps in the same category don't.

Except that he asked for a tube amp. That's what matters. If I ask for a pork sandwich and I'm handed a beef one it doesn't matter that it's nice beef, i asked for pork.
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Except that he asked for a tube amp. That's what matters. If I ask for a pork sandwich and I'm handed a beef one it doesn't matter that it's nice beef, i asked for pork.


a blackstar engineer insists that all the distortion clipping is done by the tubes on the HT5(the response is posted somewhere in the ht5 thread I believe), sure it has transistors, but many "tube" amps have solid state in them as well. The OP didn't ask for a "pure" tube amp, so I'm pretty sure the HT5 is an appropriate recommendation.
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a blackstar engineer insists that all the distortion clipping is done by the tubes on the HT5(the response is posted somewhere in the ht5 thread I believe), sure it has transistors, but many "tube" amps have solid state in them as well. The OP didn't ask for a "pure" tube amp, so I'm pretty sure the HT5 is an appropriate recommendation.



Solid State rectification still = full tube. the HT-5 however is more than just rectification.

TS meant full tube, you can just tell by the post.
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re-reading, a used H&K edition tube would likely fit the bill. they go for $350-400 used.
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Quote by ninjab
a blackstar engineer insists that all the distortion clipping is done by the tubes on the HT5(the response is posted somewhere in the ht5 thread I believe), sure it has transistors, but many "tube" amps have solid state in them as well. The OP didn't ask for a "pure" tube amp, so I'm pretty sure the HT5 is an appropriate recommendation.



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What's your point.

I mean, I'll check right now if I can make it metal...what type of metal sound are you looking for TS?

The Orange AD5 might be the best low watt tube amp under 400 I've ever found and I played tt, night train, ac4tv, jca20, blackstar, all that stuff.
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Quote by ninjab
a blackstar engineer insists that all the distortion clipping is done by the tubes on the HT5(the response is posted somewhere in the ht5 thread I believe)
I've looked a a schematic and if the schematic (and my interpretation) was correct then I would say that engineer is lying. It clearly appeared to be using an op-amp with clipping diodes to get distortion.
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Quote by ninjab
my brother picked this up when it was on sale for $80, I would not touch it, it sounds terrible. Cleans are maybe ok, but the built in overdrive is just atrocious, and using a distortion pedal it sounds bad as well. My HT-5 sounds worlds better than it, I'd even take a solid state valvetronix or something over it.

Bummer. Sounds like he might have got a hold of a bad one; that happens. I have a Royal 8 and run a PodXT and Grunge pedal through it (not at the same time). I’ve got great Clean and great OD, both, when I want it... and my neighbors haven’t yet called the police (ha ha). Sorry to hear about you brother’s bad experience.
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Lol I've heard the HT-5 and I do kinda like it although I would like something with a little more than 5 watts though incase I ever start gigging.

I'm looking for a lower watt tube amp because as of now I am a bedroom player and can't really crank an amp. Don't want to piss off the parents or the neighbors.

Largest major city is Lexington KY, Knoxville TN, may also could do Louisville KY. Possibly Nashville TN if they'd be willing to meet halfway. I really love high gain tube amps as well as a nice british sound ala ac/dc, zeppelin, etc.. The heaviest music I would be playing would probably be Killswitch Engage or Lamb of God or something along those lines. Also music like Baroness, The Sword, Mastodon. But mostly I play classic rock type music and just dabble in metal every now and again. I have my phases

i might could do more than $350 but would really like to keep it around there. This would be just for a head.

Hopefully I answered/provided everything lol
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Quote by Cathbard
He asked for a tube amp, a HT-5 is a hybrid.
It's got some transistors in it, so does a JCM800. The HT-5 is a tube amp.
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Unmentioned amps so far: Jet city Picovalve (5 watts), Blackheart Little Giant and Handsome Devil (5 and 15 ?)


EDIT: ^ apparently the HT-5 has no power tubes
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And yes I would recommend the HT-5, it has a lot of features that other amps in the same category don't.



features are not at all important. Sound is important.

Who the hell cares about built in features on an amp, anything you need done can be done BETTER with a stand alone pedal.



that's my amp's control panel, it doesn't need features.
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hey im not sure if it helps but what you think about vox valvetronix against blackstar ht 5???
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I would honestly recommend the Tiny Terror. I bought one new off ebay for $420 so Im sure you could find one in your budget if you were patient. Its perfect for classic rock. With the gain all the way up and the OD808 set to a slight overdrive it also gets a smooth metal sound. I wish I had a recording device or else I would post some sound clips or a video to show you what I mean
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Quote by ch0
It's got some transistors in it, so does a JCM800. The HT-5 is a tube amp.
The JCM800 uses op-amps to adjust some levels but they sit inside an otherwise straight tube amp.
The Ht-5 only has 1W tubes in it and produces 5W - because the power amp is not tube, it's SS. THAT makes it a hybrid, not just the presence of a few transistors here and there - the amp that drives the speakers is SS. If it's a tube amp then so is a Marshall AVT.
I have nothing against the HT-5 as an amp but ffs stop calling it a tube amp people.
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