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#41
^more resistance!


and syk, i can just trow together a little box that goes
input -> killswitch kind of switch -> variable resistance -> output

and test out that series resistance idea
#42
^ great idea.

Quote by GODhimself37
Well the 2.4k resistor just sucked alot of tone and volume, the popping wasn't changed at all.

And SYK, if you saw the guts of my les paul, you wouldn't wanna do that haha its so crowded full of wires that trying to do anything that drastic could take hours. If was enough to move things aside and install the killswitch.

Is there any simple way to fix it? Like i different type of switch wired to something else? (something easy)
I totally get that. I pretty much expected that would be your reaction.

2k4 in parallel would suck more than a lot of tone. Basically all of it.

I can't think of anything easy to try.
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#43
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^ great idea.

I totally get that. I pretty much expected that would be your reaction.

2k4 in parallel would suck more than a lot of tone. Basically all of it.

I can't think of anything easy to try.



Is it possible to just use a DPDT switch instead of a button? Would it help?
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#44
Quote by GODhimself37
Is it possible to just use a DPDT switch instead of a button? Would it help?
Dunno. Maybe? If so, probably connect just one side of it, as if it was a SPDT.

You could try connecting the
hot from the pickup selector to one of the throws
and ground* to the other throw.
The pole connects to the output jack.

*or maybe instead of directly to ground, use a 5k (or so) resistor to ground.
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#45
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Dunno. Maybe? If so, probably connect just one side of it, as if it was a SPDT.

You could try connecting the
hot from the pickup selector to one of the throws
and ground* to the other throw.
The pole connects to the output jack.

*or maybe instead of directly to ground, use a 5k (or so) resistor to ground.



Btw, all i have right now is the hot and ground running to the jack. Would that contribute to the popping?
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#46
I'm gonna try the resistor thing, I've got two 1M resistors, so first I'll try a 1M to see if that's high enough, and if it's not I'll just put em in series to get 2M ohms. it'll be at least a day or two though. I need to get a new switch (I had to take mine out temporarily while messing with my wiring and because when I installed it a wrapped the wire around the leg multiple times it was really hard to get off. by the time it was off the plastic around the lug was melted lol. it was one of the first electrical mods I did and I didn't want it coming off)


but yea, I'll let ya'll know if the 1M is high enough.
#47
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I'm gonna try the resistor thing, I've got two 1M resistors, so first I'll try a 1M to see if that's high enough, and if it's not I'll just put em in series to get 2M ohms. it'll be at least a day or two though. I need to get a new switch (I had to take mine out temporarily while messing with my wiring and because when I installed it a wrapped the wire around the leg multiple times it was really hard to get off. by the time it was off the plastic around the lug was melted lol. it was one of the first electrical mods I did and I didn't want it coming off)


but yea, I'll let ya'll know if the 1M is high enough.


i'm really not sure where this resistor across the lugs idea came up cause i've never seen it work. on my old killswitch i had a 2M resistor across the lugs and when that didn't stop the popping i just gave up and rewired my guitar differently.
#48
Hey I want to put a killswitch in the guitar im customizing/restoring, but I am kinda confused as to where to put it. The TS was kinda unclear to me. I realize that I need to make the ground conect to the output (or at least I think, but All these electronics really confuse me since I can't find any really good explanations of anything for absolute beginners.

bassically my guitar will be like this http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=1hum_1vol_1tone

1 humbucker 1 vol 1 tone. pretty straight forward, and a killswitch.

I have a SPST switch exactly like the one pictured in the OP. can you tell me exactly where I should put it?
#49
^you're correct when you say you need to connect the ground and the output

one lug of your SPST switch should be soldered to the middle lug of your volume pot. that's directly connected to the hot output

the other lug gets connected to a ground point. in this case, you can just solder it to the back of the volume pot (which is already grounded)
#51
Quote by james4
^you're correct when you say you need to connect the ground and the output

one lug of your SPST switch should be soldered to the middle lug of your volume pot. that's directly connected to the hot output

the other lug gets connected to a ground point. in this case, you can just solder it to the back of the volume pot (which is already grounded)


alright cool thanks, that seems easy enough.

and to the dude above me, I don't know if thats even possible but if it is you can't do it with a normal gibson style switch
#54
Quote by james4


and pac man: what kind of 3-way do you have?

Well it'd just be a normal 3-way toggle so the specific type doesn't matter. I'm only planning it right now so I know what I need to do when I get around to it. Whichever one is easiest to do this with, I suppose. I don't know a lot about the different types.
#55
my crappy p-bass, with a momentary mini toggle:


Hey man! How does the toggle switch work out for you? Does it come loose, or is it strong? Sorry, I'm a n00b in the world of guitar mods, so I want to know .
#56
it's worked just fine for me so far..I've had it in for quite a few years, but keep in mind that I don't play bass as often as I play guitar, and I'm usually not doing morrello-style stuff with it, anyway

it's held up fairly well so far, though if you want to do fast on/off stuff, I'd suggest getting a push button style switch rather than a toggle
#57
Quote by james4
First of all, get your hands on a very high resistance resistor. Usually, you can find a 2M2 (2.2Meg, or 2200000 ohms) resistor fairly easily, at almost anywhere that sells electronic components.
in a little while, I (or anyone else, if you want to volunteer) can play around with different resistor values to see how low (resistance-wise) you can go, but ..if the value you use is too low, you'll experience some treble and volume loss, which is never nice.

What happens if the resistor is too high? I can get 10M ohms, is this too high? Or is it a case of the higher the better?
Here they are, are these suitable?
#58
Question

I've seen a lot of pictures around of different wiring diagrams. But some have it wired to the Jack and some are wired to the master volume.

But does it matter which one you wire it to?
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#59
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Question

I've seen a lot of pictures around of different wiring diagrams. But some have it wired to the Jack and some are wired to the master volume.

But does it matter which one you wire it to?
nope. whichever is most convenient.
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#61
what guitar are you putting it in?

it's pretty much just drilling a hole the appropriate size, and make sure theres enough room in the control cavity

that switch looks a bit big to fit in a guitar, though :/
#62
My Les Paul...Think its too big?

EDIT- Probably is know somewhere were i can get a smaller one in white?
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#63
well, the switch is 65mm tall, take off maybe 2mm of height for the button assembly

I'm not sure you'll be able to fit it, man :/

measure the thickness of your body if you want to be sure, though
#64
Yep too tall...looking for one that will fit though is gonna be hard i would love for it to be a cream color.
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#65
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Epiphone Les Paul Prophecy GX
Ovation Celebrity 28CC
Marshall JCM 2000 TSL
B-52 AT112
#66
Is it not advisable to drill a hole in my LP?
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#67
^the first one isn't actual buttons for sale..its clipart

the second one should work well though

and its all up to you if you want to drill a hole in it
resale value'll go way down, but if thats not an issue, then...well, it's not an issue
#68
So guys, I have EMG 81 wired directly to output. How to connect a SPDT on/off toogle switch,with 3 lugs?

Do I have to use ground from the input jack, orfrom the bridge?
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#69
Hi
I am a bit annoyed of the "pop" I get when unplugging my bass to save the batteries. Is this the same sort of pop that you get using a killswitch without the resistor? And is there a way to use the resistor idea, but modified to stop the pop when unplugging?
#70
Sorry for being nooby, but what do I wore where if I have 3 single 1 vol 1 tone and a 2 way toggle switch (it has 6 "prongs") I guess it's a duel throw.

Thank you!
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#71
Quote by nowa90
Sorry for being nooby, but what do I wore where if I have 3 single 1 vol 1 tone and a 2 way toggle switch (it has 6 "prongs") I guess it's a duel throw.

Thank you!


Well, since I assume you mean wire, not wore, as this is not a dressing up thread

It should be in a 2x3 array:

A-D
B-E
C-F
Wire A to ground, which should be the back of the pot or the sleeve of the jack.
Wire B to the wire coming from the middle lug on your volume pot
Wire C to the tip of your jack.

Leave D, E, and F blank.

The tip of the jack is the lug that continues down into the jack and is "sandwiched" in the middle, then is attached to that long metal, arm thing.


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#72
Quote by MonkeyLink07

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The tip of the jack is the lug that continues down into the jack and is "sandwiched" in the middle, then is attached to that long metal, arm thing.

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#73
Here ya go, not sure on the kind of 5 way, but this should be how your guitar is wired:


EDIT: The little triangle things are grounds. connect them all to a single spot, either at the back of a pot or the sleeve of the jack.


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#74
Thank you very much
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#75
i'm putting in a SPDT switch, just double checking some stuff. the ground goes into the pole, yes? and does it matter which throw i put the other wire on?
#77
i decided to put the killswitch on my bass instead of my guitar. however, the wiring's a bit different, instead of a volume and tone knob there's a neck pickup volume, a bridge pickup volume and a tone knob. here's a picture. would the wiring be any different since i'm working through two volumes?
#80
it shouldn't, and I don't really see how it would, unless you were throwing them around and hit stuff.


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