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#41
I couldn't tell you in terms of notes and octaves, but I can generally sing the same notes as Myles Kennedy (with a lot less sustain and prowess on the highs) plus a silly high falsetto - think the highest distorted note in Bring On The Young by Strapping Young Lad, or the vocal air raid siren by Stu Block from Into Eternity. I need to distort my voice to sing really high though. Would anyone be able to distinguish my range if I posted a clip tomorrow?
#42
So I tried doing some new exercises last night, and they must have corrected some technique. My range rose from a D2(I can sometimes go to C, but not often)-D4, to a D2-A4. Woo.

If the notes turn out to be falsetto instead of head voice, Matt will be sad.
#43
Quote by Chaingarden
You know what, that's totally fair. I would disagree in that I think the intonation, at least in Live like A Martyr was fairly spot on (unless you can distinguish the exact Hz of each note. If you're a perfect pitch type, I guess I couldn't argue with you.) There are many off-notes in Billie Jean, and it's a fairly nasty sounding F#, but the whole song is only half serious. I think the Live Like A Martyr F# is fairly tonally rich for being an F#. But those are mostly differences in opinion.

I can't tell you you're wrong, just that I disagree with you. By classical standards, using only chest voice, I can probably only get to about a G or A below high C.

I do think though, that if you do want to talk about tone and intonation, you better provide some recordings to show that you indeed are familiar with how to produce good tone, and how to sing exceptionally in tune. Otherwise, it just comes off as idle critique.


You're right about the idle critique. Anyone can come on here and insult someone, but it doesn't really mean much unless they can prove themselves at least somewhat fluent on the topic. I don't really have any recent recordings, so I can't share them with you. But if you care that much, I may have time to record a song or two and post it, but I won't have time till school's over. And at that point this will likely have settled down.

As far as intonation and discerning pitch goes, there is a test we do at school to test the frequency we can distinguish, and I was able to distinguish between 1.5hz 85% of the time. Which is good, compared to most, but nothing really great. I don't have perfect pitch.

After hearing your voice, I believe that you could hit a G or A. Though I would be more doubtful of the low D. You have a good tenor voice, and the argument we're having is just opinion on the definition of range, which is somewhat inconsequential.
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#44
Quote by canvasDude
Actually, (after ditching the guitar for a piano as reference) my lowest usable note is G2. My highest possible not (using only head voice) is still the A6, but that note is rather forced (though not all together bad sounding). That would make my range just over 4 octaves (including chest and head voice only). I don't see the problem with this, considering a three octave range is fairly standard from what I've observed in my secondary school choir.

P.S. Thanks about the avatar, lol.
Could you please record yourself going through your whole range (or at least starting an octave from the top and bottom to demonstrate the extremes) on a scale or using melodic triads or something?
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#45
Quote by food1010
Could you please record yourself going through your whole range (or at least starting an octave from the top and bottom to demonstrate the extremes) on a scale or using melodic triads or something?



As I said in my edits, I don't have a means of recording myself at the moment (my little sister busted my only mic). But, when I do, I'll record myself through my whole range (including falsetto so that you can hear that my head voice is not falsetto).
#46
Quote by canvasDude
As I said in my edits, I don't have a means of recording myself at the moment (my little sister busted my only mic). But, when I do, I'll record myself through my whole range (including falsetto so that you can hear that my head voice is not falsetto).
Oh, alright. Sorry, I missed where you said that. I haven't really been following this thread.
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#47
Quote by food1010
Oh, alright. Sorry, I missed where you said that. I haven't really been following this thread.


Nah, that's ok. I guess I didn't realize that the range I'm claiming to have was that unusual. I have a friend who can hit (prepare for rough estimation) around a C2, he has a very deep voice, to about an F5. And my other friend (who I suspect hasn't hit puberty yet) can hit notes so high they're nearly inaudible (read "uses whistle register a lot"). Not that I have a bunch of mutant friends, it's just that I've encountered people that many on this thread would label liars.
#48
Quote by Chaingarden
You know what, that's totally fair. I would disagree in that I think the intonation, at least in Live like A Martyr was fairly spot on (unless you can distinguish the exact Hz of each note. If you're a perfect pitch type, I guess I couldn't argue with you.) There are many off-notes in Billie Jean, and it's a fairly nasty sounding F#, but the whole song is only half serious. I think the Live Like A Martyr F# is fairly tonally rich for being an F#. But those are mostly differences in opinion.

yeah I thought so.
This is falsetto (or call it head voice if you want (but this is not head voice I was taught))
One would not include such voice in vocal range
including such vocals everyone would be about 4 octaves...

P.s. I liked your vocal very much. But your "range" is wrong...
#50
In full voice, my low range varies from an E2 to around a C2, depending on a bunch of stuff like whether I'm sick or not. For high range, right now I can comfortably sustain a G5. I haven't really tried measuring stuff like falsetto and vocal fry, I really only use my full voice.

Edit: Also, I think people need to specify in their posts whether they're talking about falsetto and other things like that, or just full voice.
#51
Quote by The Kush
In full voice, my low range varies from an E2 to around a C2, depending on a bunch of stuff like whether I'm sick or not. For high range, right now I can comfortably sustain a G5. I haven't really tried measuring stuff like falsetto and vocal fry, I really only use my full voice.

Edit: Also, I think people need to specify in their posts whether they're talking about falsetto and other things like that, or just full voice.

I would like to hear you hit either ends of that range in full voice. A G5 is what a lirico-leggero tenor is possibly able to hit. And this is incredibly high for full voice. Also, these tenors are only able to sing down to a C3 usually. Which means you can not only sing higher than some of the best tenors in the world, but you can sing an entire octave lower than them (and lower than many basses). Which makes you, sir, either very confused, or very talented.

If the latter is true you need to go audition somewhere.
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#52
^I'll put up a recording right now. Naturally I'm a bass, but I've been learning how to utilize my head voice for James LaBrie or Tobias Sammet-esque metal vocals.

EDIT: Put it up in my profile. It's called "The Killing Hand G5", it's the first one.
Last edited by The Kush at Apr 19, 2010,
#53
Quote by radioheadfreak
I would like to hear you hit either ends of that range in full voice. A G5 is what a lirico-leggero tenor is possibly able to hit. And this is incredibly high for full voice. Also, these tenors are only able to sing down to a C3 usually. Which means you can not only sing higher than some of the best tenors in the world, but you can sing an entire octave lower than them (and lower than many basses). Which makes you, sir, either very confused, or very talented.

If the latter is true you need to go audition somewhere.


Yea I would like to hear this as well. That's an amazing range for a male voice.
#54
The Kush rocks everyone's shit, you should all know that by now.
Do you have any recordings of your lower range though? Even if you're a master of mixing your upper register into your lower range you don't sound like a bass to me.
#55
Quote by The Kush
^I'll put up a recording right now. Naturally I'm a bass, but I've been learning how to utilize my head voice for James LaBrie or Tobias Sammet-esque metal vocals.

EDIT: Put it up in my profile. It's called "The Killing Hand G5", it's the first one.

again! this is head voice

UPD: ok, I had a listen to some of your songs.. well, you sing pretty high . But that G5 was definitely a head voice.
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#56
I'll try and get a recording of my lower range sometime soon... when I said C2, I meant really on the very best days, when I'm either sick or something else has happened to make my voice that low. That's the lowest I've ever hit, but it's DEFINITELY not my normal range.

Lol and thanks Cheeseman, I think I'm gonna have to sig that
#57
You would probably get more honest answers in a "post your penis size" thread
#58
I've been told I have a good and very versatile voice. I can match the vocal stylings of Sully Erna from Godsmack, James Hetfield, Randy Blythe, and Chuck Billy, and I can also sing regularly though not quite at the level of say Michael Starr or Pavarotti. Hell, with some warming up, I can pull off Judas Priest's Painkiller and Ram It Down, but that takes a while of warming up for me to do. I just prefer not to sing as I'd rather play guitar (that and I can't do both at the same time).
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#59
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You would probably get more honest answers in a "post your penis size" thread

If you're talking about me, I posted proof on my profile.
#60
i've only got about a 2 octave range not including roughly 1 octave of falsetto.... don't ask me to pick out which notes they are, i think its the B 1 octave below middle c up 2 octaves and the falsetto picks up where that leaves off i think.
#61
Quote by The Kush
If you're talking about me, I posted proof on my profile.


I surely hope you're talking about your vocal range, and not your penis size!
#62
Quote by nmartin1187
I surely hope you're talking about your vocal range, and not your penis size!

Bravo good sir, made my day. I don't know why I didn't notice that...
#63
My range is virtually nothing. Tried to but it was hopeless, even my guitar teacher said that it was better for humanity if I would quit singing
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#64
After brief experimenting last night, mine is from two A's below middle C, to one octave above middle C. I should really take singing lessons some time...
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#66
I got really interested in this so warmed up and downloaded the Sing and See program mentioned in this thread.
Whilst singing along to a few songs I knew I got from a weak D3 to a quite forced sounding C5#, this is only using my chest voice I believe, as with falsetto I managed to reach E6 (I am female by the way, so not a lot of bass)
Just wondering if that's a pretty decent range? Hoping I can eventually manage to hit C3, and boost that C5# up a little.
#67
You're a beginner, so if you continue with practice you'll see good results.
#69
My true range is open E string to F# in the high E string. Not including falsetto or head voice. I don't know if people are doing it wrong but I find hard to believe some of these comments, some claim to sing 17 fret on high E chest voice? lol, could b possible but wow if you're a guy.
#70
Quote by cisco444
My true range is open E string to F# in the high E string. Not including falsetto or head voice. I don't know if people are doing it wrong but I find hard to believe some of these comments, some claim to sing 17 fret on high E chest voice? lol, could b possible but wow if you're a guy.
I think those people are doing it wrong.

Basically anywhere around two octaves is standard. If you have one octave, you're probably just untrained, and if you have well over three octaves, you're probably doing something wrong. If you have two octaves and a fifth even, that's pretty commendable, provided they're all strong/usable.
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#71
Male here.

I don't know anything about notes or theory, but I can sing most female pop without transposing it down any. I need to falsetto at times so I don't have to belt though. A lot of male pop even gets too low for me to sing without singing up higher (ie: The Fray).
#72
[quote="'-[NiL"]-']Male here.

I don't know anything about notes or theory, but I can sing most female pop without transposing it down any. I need to falsetto at times so I don't have to belt though. A lot of male pop even gets too low for me to sing without singing up higher (ie: The Fray).If you can find what notes on your guitar you can hit, we can help you find out what notes those are and where your range lies.
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#73
Male here, and, IIRC, I have just a little bit over two octaves... E below the Bass staff, all the way to first space F#. I do have a little trouble reaching the tips of my range, but they're all there and usable.
#74
I have somewhere in the neighborhood of F#2 - B5, I'm pretty sure.

no.
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#75
After not singing in ages I've gone back to working on my range and all that. Now my range is HEAPS GOOD! =D

I can literally belt out a high C (C5) at the start of the day, and on the very best days if I warm up a lot I can go all the way up to an Eb above high C, though I can't really sustain anything above the C# even on the best of days.
Low notes I can go down to a low A (A2) before it gets uncomfortable but if I really force it in a breathy voice I can reach a low F#. I tend to harmonize the melody up a fifth if I ever have to sing below a low B/C (C2) though, I always sound breathy or forced deep voice strained if I go lower than that.

Does that sound like a tenor range? if I'm numbering this right that should be A2-C#5 in a "comfortable" range, but to me that's anything that doesn't hurt my voice at all if I keep hitting those notes.
#76
Quote by Cheeseman07

Does that sound like a tenor range? if I'm numbering this right that should be A2-C#5 in a "comfortable" range, but to me that's anything that doesn't hurt my voice at all if I keep hitting those notes.


You'll have to look at your range again. Typically we are talking about the vocal range not including falsetto or whistle registers. This will direct you towards whether you are a tenor/baritone, and the actual range you have. So figure out where your falsetto kicks in.
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#77
nah what I meant is none of that is in falsetto, I don't think anyone would call it head voice either except maybe some classical teachers

it's all a belted chest/heavy mix voice even up to that Eb, I know what my falsetto is like and if this was falsetto I would be able to go much higher. I know I can get up to at least an A5 with a light head/falsetto voice but that doesn't sound good, what I'm talking about is just my natural voice being pulled up higher until I strain really bad around the D and just can't push any higher after the Eb.
#78
Quote by Cheeseman07
nah what I meant is none of that is in falsetto, I don't think anyone would call it head voice either except maybe some classical teachers


So you claim you have a 3 and a half octave range? Post some clips.
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#79
I've gotten a much more realistic assessment on my range, no falsetto :P

E2-A4.

I've hit a low C before, but it was really low quality, and anything about the A is just obvious straining.

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#80
I can comfortably go from a D2 to around a G4. I can push it down to about a C2 but it's probably too quiet to use, and if you count fry I can push it down to an A or something. I can push my voice to an A4 but that's my absolute limit and have to just yell really loud to get it, something I don't really like to do much. As for falsetto I can go up to about an A5, but I don't really use falsetto at all.