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#41
Sounds good. That was all single tracked right? I liked the clean tone. The drums got a little borning after a while but I guess it's not about the drums right .

Can anyone give me some crits on any of these clips?

http://netmusicians.org/?search=kylendm
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#42
Quote by kylendm
Sounds good. That was all single tracked right? I liked the clean tone. The drums got a little borning after a while but I guess it's not about the drums right .

Can anyone give me some crits on any of these clips?

http://netmusicians.org/?search=kylendm



It was actually double tracked other than leads and clean the drums weren't meant to be amazing, I didn't spend the time at all on them

I"ll check yours in just a minute
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#43
Quote by Bostonrocks
It was actually double tracked other than leads and clean the drums weren't meant to be amazing, I didn't spend the time at all on them

I"ll check yours in just a minute


It all sounds good though. I think you need to bring up the volume a little.
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Ibanez RGD2127FX
Ibanez RG3120TW
Ibanez RGD7321
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Amps:
Baron Custom Amps K88
Rivera Knucklehead TRE
Fryette Sig: X
Randall RM4 /w Modded modules
Cabs:
Mesa 4x12
Bogner 4x12
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#44
Quote by kylendm
Sounds good. That was all single tracked right? I liked the clean tone. The drums got a little borning after a while but I guess it's not about the drums right .

Can anyone give me some crits on any of these clips?

http://netmusicians.org/?search=kylendm



I really liked the old school sabbath tone, a little fizzy (Try cutting 8k some or maybe just a high pass ) but you pretty much nailed it
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


Quote by bubb_tubbs
When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
#45
Quote by Bostonrocks
I really liked the old school sabbath tone, a little fizzy (Try cutting 8k some or maybe just a high pass ) but you pretty much nailed it

im going to echo this.
I've liked the Sm57 plus the v30 combo than the others
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#46
Quote by kylendm
It all sounds good though. I think you need to bring up the volume a little.



haha, ok, I'll remember that
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


Quote by bubb_tubbs
When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
#47
Quote by mexican_shred
im going to echo this.
I've liked the Sm57 plus the v30 combo than the others


Really? I thought the AKG with V30 sounded clearer than the SM57 with V30. Thanks for comments guys.
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Amps:
Baron Custom Amps K88
Rivera Knucklehead TRE
Fryette Sig: X
Randall RM4 /w Modded modules
Cabs:
Mesa 4x12
Bogner 4x12
Peavey 4x12(K85s)
#48
Can you use two mics at once? if you can try the AKG 3 feet off the grill cloth on center with the cone. Then try the Sm57 off center the speaker cone. See how you like it
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#49
Quote by mexican_shred
Can you use two mics at once? if you can try the AKG 3 feet off the grill cloth on center with the cone. Then try the Sm57 off center the speaker cone. See how you like it



+1

although I'd say put the 57 at a 45 off center. I'd also say 2 feet *shrug* personal preference
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


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When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
#50
Yeah, I can.

I'll try it with a new cab I'm getting. All my gear is at my band practice house so I have to wait until tomorrow to get it back. Thanks for the advice
Guitars:
Ibanez UV777P
Ibanez RGD2127FX
Ibanez RG3120TW
Ibanez RGD7321
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Jackson Slatxmg3-7
Amps:
Baron Custom Amps K88
Rivera Knucklehead TRE
Fryette Sig: X
Randall RM4 /w Modded modules
Cabs:
Mesa 4x12
Bogner 4x12
Peavey 4x12(K85s)
#51
I'm excited to hear em'!

Gosh I need to help out in here more, it's fun
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


Quote by bubb_tubbs
When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
#52
Quote by kylendm
Yeah, I can.

I'll try it with a new cab I'm getting. All my gear is at my band practice house so I have to wait until tomorrow to get it back. Thanks for the advice

if you can try it in a room that really really good acoustics it can sound amazing.
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#53
Quote by mexican_shred
if you can try it in a room that really really good acoustics it can sound amazing.


Well my room is not that

Two walls are bricks and the other are 1inch thick plywood but the ceiling is all insulation which is good. I made a room in my basement.

Might try my real room since it is a "normal" room haha.
Guitars:
Ibanez UV777P
Ibanez RGD2127FX
Ibanez RG3120TW
Ibanez RGD7321
Ibanez RG6003FM
Ibanez SA160
Jackson Slatxmg3-7
Amps:
Baron Custom Amps K88
Rivera Knucklehead TRE
Fryette Sig: X
Randall RM4 /w Modded modules
Cabs:
Mesa 4x12
Bogner 4x12
Peavey 4x12(K85s)
#55
Quote by DIMEBAGLIVEDON
http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/DIMEBAGLIVEDON/

Click on "Lead Tone Test Pod Farm Half Step Down".

I'm still working on the tone. Opinions?


Sounds kinda muffled. You could also try double tracking the leads. That makes them sound a lot fuller. Keep working on it though. I see potential.
Guitars:
Ibanez UV777P
Ibanez RGD2127FX
Ibanez RG3120TW
Ibanez RGD7321
Ibanez RG6003FM
Ibanez SA160
Jackson Slatxmg3-7
Amps:
Baron Custom Amps K88
Rivera Knucklehead TRE
Fryette Sig: X
Randall RM4 /w Modded modules
Cabs:
Mesa 4x12
Bogner 4x12
Peavey 4x12(K85s)
#56
So why do midi drums sound great with metalcore, but if i'm trying to play a punk song it sounds so fake?

Looks like I'm going to be learning a lot of crappy metalcore to have fun with drum tracks .
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#57
Quote by kylendm
Sounds kinda muffled. You could also try double tracking the leads. That makes them sound a lot fuller. Keep working on it though. I see potential.
Thanks.

How would I double-track the leads? That would seriously be a pain in the ass to track.

How would I fix the "muffled" sound? I'm assuming to add more presence?
Last edited by DIMEBAGLIVEDON at Apr 2, 2010,
#58
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


Quote by bubb_tubbs
When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
#59
Quick question on re-amping... is it this?

1) Record line-in "clean sound" from guitar
2) Use VSTi plug-in, like PODFarm or Revalver, to simulate the amp [and cab?]
3) Use cab-mic impulses for cab simulation

Essentially, could I just record the line-in signal "sound" and use POD Farm to change the sound around? Is implementing these VSTi's like using effects (I use Reaper)?

If this is what it is... it seems a hell of a lot easier than what I am doing now.
Ryan's (?) V30 impulses sound insane, too, so that could leave potential for epic recording.
#60
Re-amping is running your already recorded guitar signal through an amp, it could be an amp simulator but it could also be a real amp.
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#61
Quote by Bostonrocks


That sounds really nice! Personally, I wasn't mad for the drum sounds, something about the snare didn't seem quite right to me

But I couldn't fault the guitars, they sounded really nice, the only problem was the tapping at the end of the solo was quieter than everything else (which is to be expected). I would split it up from the rest of the solo and boost the volume to the same as the rest...what did you use to record that?
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#62
Quote by idiotbox919
That sounds really nice! Personally, I wasn't mad for the drum sounds, something about the snare didn't seem quite right to me

But I couldn't fault the guitars, they sounded really nice, the only problem was the tapping at the end of the solo was quieter than everything else (which is to be expected). I would split it up from the rest of the solo and boost the volume to the same as the rest...what did you use to record that?


yeah, I'm working on the drums sound I'll have some more later .

The guitars surprisingly were PODxt. it wast eh recto model. some patch I got of the line 6 site, supposed to sound like KSE. I like it, one of the better ones I've gotten. it's all double tracked. and yeah I'll fix the tapping bit, I'm not completely happy with the end there and the playing. (Arnold voice) *I'll Be Back*
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


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When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
#63
Hi!

I am going through a mid-life thing. Years back I played guitar a little, but could never afford the toys.

I recently got a lot of new toys. B-52 AT-212, Les Paul Standard VCB, BR-1200, pedal board, LOTS of pedals! Got an old Shure wireless, and a Radial Dragster to adjust tone.

Does anyone out there have info about the line out of a B-52 100 watt amp? I would love to be able to play and practice different combinations of pedals...without disturbing anyone. So, you can't install a headphone jack I guess, BUT, I have read that some people use the line out to record to a computer! I am afraid to try it, but I read that you can turn the master volume all the way down and then just use the channel volumes. So, if I can do that, I should be able to run through a mixer or recorder, right? And I am wondering if the line out is a closed circuit, so there is no external sound.

Thanks,
Mike
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#64
Quote by mikespi8
Hi!

I am going through a mid-life thing. Years back I played guitar a little, but could never afford the toys.

I recently got a lot of new toys. B-52 AT-212, Les Paul Standard VCB, BR-1200, pedal board, LOTS of pedals! Got an old Shure wireless, and a Radial Dragster to adjust tone.

Does anyone out there have info about the line out of a B-52 100 watt amp? I would love to be able to play and practice different combinations of pedals...without disturbing anyone. So, you can't install a headphone jack I guess, BUT, I have read that some people use the line out to record to a computer! I am afraid to try it, but I read that you can turn the master volume all the way down and then just use the channel volumes. So, if I can do that, I should be able to run through a mixer or recorder, right? And I am wondering if the line out is a closed circuit, so there is no external sound.

Thanks,
Mike
mikespi8@sbcglobal.net
mikespi8@sbcglobal.net


I've got no experience with B-52s at all...they never really came to the UK

However, on how line outs normally work I can't see that you would be able to use it as a headphone. You might be able to record like you said with the master all the way down, cause it says the line out has it's own volume control. Although, if you can spare the cash...I would recommend against this. Like I said, I don't know about the B-52s, but I've never been impressed with using a line out to record on any amp. If you have the option I would always recommend micing up the cab, I've always found I've had better results doing it that way....

All you can do is try it...you'll need a cab sim though, grab something like lepou lecab and use Ryan's (CatharsisStudio's) impulses...I believe there's a guide at the start of this thread. And don't worry about damaging your amp, as long as there is a load connected (the speaker) you're fine, just don't unplug the speaker

Oh and Boston, that sounds awesome for a patch from a Pod...I swear everytime I hear the results people can get from Pods and Pod Farm when they know what they're doing, it really makes me want to spend more money I don't have! I'm still recovering from the DSL100 I bought on impulse
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Cab: Framus FR212
Last edited by idiotbox919 at Apr 3, 2010,
#65
Quote by idiotbox919
I've got no experience with B-52s at all...they never really came to the UK

However, on how line outs normally work I can't see that you would be able to use it as a headphone. You might be able to record like you said with the master all the way down, cause it says the line out has it's own volume control. Although, if you can spare the cash...I would recommend against this. Like I said, I don't know about the B-52s, but I've never been impressed with using a line out to record on any amp. If you have the option I would always recommend micing up the cab, I've always found I've had better results doing it that way....

All you can do is try it...you'll need a cab sim though, grab something like lepou lecab and use Ryan's (CatharsisStudio's) impulses...I believe there's a guide at the start of this thread. And don't worry about damaging your amp, as long as there is a load connected (the speaker) you're fine, just don't unplug the speaker

Oh and Boston, that sounds awesome for a patch from a Pod...I swear everytime I hear the results people can get from Pods and Pod Farm when they know what they're doing, it really makes me want to spend more money I don't have! I'm still recovering from the DSL100 I bought on impulse


+1 Ryan's stuff is great.

1. you can call me Brett

2. I have a more uhh finished version up in just a minute

EDIT:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2974259/Song%2038.wav
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


Quote by bubb_tubbs
When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
Last edited by Bostonrocks at Apr 3, 2010,
#66
Quote by Bostonrocks
+1 Ryan's stuff is great.

1. you can call me Brett

2. I have a more uhh finished version up in just a minute

EDIT:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2974259/Song%2038.wav


Hi Brett, I'm Russ *shakes hand*

It sounds real good, the leads aren't quite cutting through as much as I'd like though. The first solo in particular in the second part kinda gets buried underneath the rhythm guitars. 3 solutions:

1) Make them louder, but this can often lead to them being really loud and ruining the mix

2) EQ them to keep them seperate to the rhythm. Rhythm is quite low (pitched) so I reckon a boost somewhere between 3-7 khz could work. I would start around 5 and see, the problem here is it can sometimes end up being really cutting and harsh.

3) Female vocal compressor. This, I have no idea how or why it works....Mark told me to do it one time and it worked wonders so now I do it

Other than that, it sounds awesome, I really like your lead style too, nice and pretty quick, without being overly showy. The only other thing I would change is make the kick drum louder.
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#67
Quote by idiotbox919
Hi Brett, I'm Russ *shakes hand*

It sounds real good, the leads aren't quite cutting through as much as I'd like though. The first solo in particular in the second part kinda gets buried underneath the rhythm guitars. 3 solutions:

1) Make them louder, but this can often lead to them being really loud and ruining the mix

2) EQ them to keep them seperate to the rhythm. Rhythm is quite low (pitched) so I reckon a boost somewhere between 3-7 khz could work. I would start around 5 and see, the problem here is it can sometimes end up being really cutting and harsh.

3) Female vocal compressor. This, I have no idea how or why it works....Mark told me to do it one time and it worked wonders so now I do it

Other than that, it sounds awesome, I really like your lead style too, nice and pretty quick, without being overly showy. The only other thing I would change is make the kick drum louder.

Alot of female vocal compressors I've seen work like multi band compressors so they are compressing multiple frequencies. Usually female voice frequencies will be in the "solo" range of guitars.
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#68
Quote by mexican_shred
Alot of female vocal compressors I've seen work like multi band compressors so they are compressing multiple frequencies. Usually female voice frequencies will be in the "solo" range of guitars.


haha well that explains it then!

Thanks man, you certainly know your stuff
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#69
Haha you give me too much credit. I've just been playing around with alot of audio production stuff and music technology things as of lately.
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#71
Quote by DIMEBAGLIVEDON
Hey guys, another clip up. This time it's rhythm only, as that's basically what I've been told (and I want to) improve on tone wise.

http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/DIMEBAGLIVEDON/

Clip is called "Tone Test Line 6 Pod Farm Half Step Down". Added more presence.

Seems a little distant but when you hit the end of the phrase it feels closer up. Its better but i'd work on getting it as a whole "closer up". What amp model, cab and others things are you using in pod farm


I've got one i did with pod farm. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4291735/untitled857.wav

There no post fx's minus a compressor. I think i need to turn down the gain a little and fill some of the fizz. Any other thoughts?


heres an acoustic guitar mix i did recently.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4291735/charlie%20gore.wav


playing and singing is not mine. guy that is, is a local artist named charlie g.(just check the url if you want his full name, he's on myspace and has other songs up), so all credit to him for singing and guitars and songwriting. I did the mixing
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#72
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2974259/Song%20Mix%203.mp3


any better?

I threw a compressor on the lead tracks and brought drums up 2db.
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


Quote by bubb_tubbs
When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
#73
I liked the lead track better. The snare on the drum was a bit overbeairng though
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#74
yeah I just fixed that. gonna fix it in a minute
Quote by gregs1020
Brett has been saving for a splawn for 4 years
countries have been toppled in the time it's taking, revolutions won got a black pres

yawn


Quote by bubb_tubbs
When he finally gets one it'll probably be televised like the Berlin Wall coming down.
The end of an era
#76
Quote by mexican_shred
Seems a little distant but when you hit the end of the phrase it feels closer up. Its better but i'd work on getting it as a whole "closer up". What amp model, cab and others things are you using in pod farm


I've got one i did with pod farm. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4291735/untitled857.wav

There no post fx's minus a compressor. I think i need to turn down the gain a little and fill some of the fizz. Any other thoughts?
Thanks for the advice. How would I make it sound more "up-close" like you did?

I personally liked your clip. It's a little boomy though, and I agree on the "fizz" thing. However, the fizz isn't terrible.

I'm using the SLO Model and Marshall JCM 800, both boosted with the screamer. I'm using the noise gate, cavernous reverb, EQ, and compressor as well.

My cabinet's on both are the 4x12 1996 Brit Celestion V-30's, with a 50% room setting, and my mic setting is "On Axis Shure SM57".
Last edited by DIMEBAGLIVEDON at Apr 3, 2010,
#77
Quote by mexican_shred
Seems a little distant but when you hit the end of the phrase it feels closer up. Its better but i'd work on getting it as a whole "closer up". What amp model, cab and others things are you using in pod farm


I've got one i did with pod farm. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4291735/untitled857.wav

There no post fx's minus a compressor. I think i need to turn down the gain a little and fill some of the fizz. Any other thoughts?


heres an acoustic guitar mix i did recently.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4291735/charlie%20gore.wav


playing and singing is not mine. guy that is, is a local artist named charlie g.(just check the url if you want his full name, he's on myspace and has other songs up), so all credit to him for singing and guitars and songwriting. I did the mixing


Hey what drum software do you use?
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#78
Quote by tr3nt
Hey what drum software do you use?

I used to use EZ drummer and my fantom x8, but i recently got superior drummer. So im playing around and using my fantom x8 as well.
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#79
Quote by mexican_shred
I used to use EZ drummer and my fantom x8, but i recently got superior drummer. So im playing around and using my fantom x8 as well.


So in that KSE clip your using superior?

Do you get your midi from Guitar Pro?
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#80
Quote by tr3nt
So in that KSE clip your using superior?

Do you get your midi from Guitar Pro?

I got lazy and used a backing track from a website. I still have yet to post something with superior. Ill try to upload something in 2-4 weeks when school gets out and i have all my gear at my disposal and the time to.


But usually ill tab it in GP or finale, and then export the midi into my DAW and run the program vsti on the track. im still trying to buy some roland or Alesis v drums to make things a little easier on myself.
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Last edited by mexican_shred at Apr 3, 2010,