Spaz91
RIP Terry
Join date: Mar 2008
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#1
Allow me to being with a short lecture/rant/drunken ramble. A lot of shit-talking goes on on this board (and this website and pretty much the whole internet) about guitars and basses that are commonly believed to be rubbish and this is probably 90% based on assumptions (like that figure) that cheaper is worse, Chinese made is worse and Epiphone is worse. As my review will later show, basses can be lucky dip; obviously if you're buying online you can feel safer buying an MIA Fender or some boutique bass but you shouldn't use this as an excuse to dismiss cheaper guitars. My main bass is an ATK300 and (in my opinion) it has kicked the shit out of all the competition but it's made in Korea and cost me only £340. This EB3 cost me £195 but in the same shop on the same amp I played basses worth 4 times as much.

tl;dr - Go to guitar shop and try out basses, you may be surprised (pleasantly or otherwise).

RIGHT onto the review.

The Epiphone EB3, mahogany body & set neck. 34" scale. Rosewood board. Sidewinder (mudbucker) and Mini-humbucker each with separate volume and tone with a 3-way selector switch. Gibson 3 point bridge. Classic style tuners.





This is by no means a perfect bass so I'll get the crap out of the way first. The mudbucker is useless, it goes beyond muddy and into inaudible. In fact its so boomy that my Lomenzo Hyperdrive has difficulty tracking. The three point bridge...



...is just damn retarded. Its not attached properly, (it relies on tension from the strings to stay in place, which themselves are kept in place my their own tension) its very low mass, top loading and its only contact is with the 3 bolts it hooks onto, essentially its on stilts. Feel free to start clapping very slowly.

The electronics are also a bit odd, the tone pots' tone changing abilities aren't exactly consistent. Not sure how to word that in a way that human's will understand.

Yes it neckdives horribly as the body is small and light and the headstock is massive. This is solved by having a good, wide strap.

However, these things are irrelevant to me as I solo the bridge pup and I plan to replace the Gibson bridge with a Hipshot Supertone (which will also solve the balance.)

Onto the good bits. Regardless of being made in some sort of sweaty sweatshop in the far east the QC on this is superb. Everything is solid, nothing rattles, nothing wobbles, the tuners are brilliant and the general craftsmanship is better than many costlier basses I've played.

I love the neck, I generally dislike gloss finishes but this one doesn't feel sticky at all and within a few weeks I'll have worn it down to something more satin-like anyway. It feels like something between a precision and a jazz neck.

The mini-humbucker is the reason I bought this bass. I love the sound it makes, loads of high mids, plenty of growl. A little lacking on the low lows but that's easily solved with a little EQing. There's very little tinny highs (a good thing in my opinion, dunno about you) which is surprising as its placed right next to the bridge. Overall its a great sound for anything but metal. This must be a disappointment for the thousands of route-note playing mids-scoopers who looked at it and when "OOH! POINTY!"

Once I wiped off a few months worth of said people's greasy fingermarks (its been in the shop a while) I saw a gorgeous glossy finish which really compliments the straight grain of the mahogany. I didn't buy this based on looks but that doesn't mean it isn't gorgeous, it's rekindled my fetish for SGs (caused by listening to nothing but Black Sabbath for 2 years).

I give it 8/10, would I use it without a backup? No, it IS the backup. If stolen, would I buy it again? If I found one made to the same quality then yes, but I wouldn't so no.

I wouldn't ask you to buy this based on my advice but I will say give the cheaper basses a chance. No I'm off to go drink the money I saved by not buying that shitty Fleabass.
Wood doesn't affect tone. Grow up.
Spaz91
RIP Terry
Join date: Mar 2008
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#2
Just thought I'd ask for a few opinions/ideas.

Other than the bridge, what other upgrades could I add? Is there a replacement pickup I could use instead of the flat-as-a-fart mudbucker?
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epy
Upright Bass Player
Join date: Jan 2006
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#3
Does the Eb-3 have the baritone switch like the rivoli? If not you could consider looking into a electronics mod to add the baritone switch.....the rivoli has the mudbucker but when you turn on the baritone switch you get a wicked balanced tone.


otherwise, you could look into putting a darkstar pickup into that spot......they're expensive but awesome.
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Spaz91
RIP Terry
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#4
No baritone switch and I thought those pickups were for semi-acoustics?

For anyone interested, I'll be making a video at some point so you can hear it. I'll post it here when I'm done.
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Tostitos
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#5
Dimarzio makes a drop-in replacement for the mudbucker, but I have no idea how it sounds.

Congrats on the new bass! While I generally don't like Epiphones, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments in that once in a while, a fantastic bass can come randomly out of a cheap line.

Hmmm, after your review I'm considering buying an EB for modding purposes. It would look quite scrumptious in white
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Captain Insano
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#6
A Bass of the Monh?!?!?! It's been ages!

I've always been a fan the SG body, and it does look quite fit. I think a Precision pickup in the middle position woul be ballin'.
shinhoman
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#7
billy sheehan uses a dimarzio in his yamaha's and his sound isnt muddy. maybe try one of them.

x

edit: shit i was beaten to it... oh well its called the model 1 anyways if you are interested.
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anarkee
oh the horror!
Join date: Aug 2006
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#8
I like the look of the EBs just not the playability of one. Always thought Jack Bruce looked smart playing his.
Spaz91
RIP Terry
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#10
Quote by jazz_rock_feel
I think it's great that you like it, but to me you've pointed out way too many things wrong on the bass within, what? a couple days of owning it?


But like I said, these flaws either don't affect me or are easily fixed.
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Deliriumbassist
UG's only DB
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#11
Quote by jazz_rock_feel
I think it's great that you like it, but to me you've pointed out way too many things wrong on the bass within, what? a couple days of owning it?

Whatevs, the cartoon made me giggle.


I think it's rather refreshing as opposed to the "straight 10" reviews.
Razgriz_101
Rage
Join date: Oct 2007
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#16
Epiphone design some rather sexy basses, all they need to do is adress some problems mainly the pups and bridges and it would make a world of diffrence.

My t-bird is like a tank compared to some basses i have tried and i like the feel of the neck overall the guitar is finished excellently but the downer is that the pups are rather weak and muddy and neck dive (easily fixed) kinda bring down the overall design.

Its refreshing to see a bass like this,maybe thats cause some of the guys i know from college are fender *****s

Overall about 60% of Epi's i have tried have felt well built its just some of their design choices really bring them down.
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fatgoogle
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#17
"Im here standing on her bed shets, shes my diamond in the rough"

Quite nice by the way, Good gloss finish.
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Spaz91
RIP Terry
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#18
I prefer Airbourne's "I can't get enough of your diamond in the rough."
Wood doesn't affect tone. Grow up.
creepingjesus73
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Join date: May 2007
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#19
That is indeed, a nice looking EB. Congrats.

I've had a serious hankering for a Jack Casady Epi for a while now - I wonder if the pup and vari-tone circuitry from that could be shoehorned into your EB? Mind you, it strikes me that the neck pup is about the same size as a Ricky one. I wonder if that would go?
lorrythebassguy
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#20
i have an EB3 and its great... except for the backache it gives me after playing two songs... hence i havent used it live for three years =[
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Spaz91
RIP Terry
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#21
Quote by creepingjesus73
That is indeed, a nice looking EB. Congrats.

I've had a serious hankering for a Jack Casady Epi for a while now - I wonder if the pup and vari-tone circuitry from that could be shoehorned into your EB? Mind you, it strikes me that the neck pup is about the same size as a Ricky one. I wonder if that would go?


It might fit but the string alignment might be off and they're really expensive.

Quote by lorrythebassguy
i have an EB3 and its great... except for the backache it gives me after playing two songs... hence i havent used it live for three years =[


I think its light as a feather mind you that's compared to my ATK and using a wide Levi's strap.
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creepingjesus73
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#22
Quote by Spaz91
It might fit but the string alignment might be off and they're really expensive.


I wouldn't be so sure: Lemmy's original Ricky had a T-Bird pup in the bridge, so maybe they're interchangable. And besides, the magnetic field is continuous across the width of the pup, plus a bit more.
Ask SkaterDan where he got the replacement pups for his Ricky copy - they weren't as pricey as Ricky or Bartolini's ones, and they sounded good.
lorrythebassguy
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#23
Its not the weight thats the problem, its the neck give, i get back ache supporting the neck. I use a 3" wide strap if that makes any difference to your thought process.
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Spaz91
RIP Terry
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#24
^ Ah fair enough. As you can probably see from the photos, the weight added by the bass wouldn't mean much to me anyway
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Spaz91
RIP Terry
Join date: Mar 2008
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#25
Just an update, I put on some Roto 88s (the black nylon wounds) and it really does sound amazing. Both pickups on full with a bit of tubey fuzz - wonderful. Unfortunately, this has royally ****ed over the action, intonation and bow so its going back to the shop for a setup next week.
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Last edited by Spaz91 at Apr 9, 2010,
Razgriz_101
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#27
Quote by JacoVictorKing
Isn't it a 30.5 neck?
im sure the EB-3 is a standard neck scale and the EB-0 is the shorter scale one.
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