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IRISH_PUNK13
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Okay I've heard people classify these guys as proto punk so I was wondering if there are any other bands that have a simillar sound?
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#3
proto punk... check out television, the flamin' groovies, the dictators, patti smith and the modern lovers.
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#4
Never heard of them.
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proto punk... check out television, the flamin' groovies, the dictators, patti smith and the modern lovers.

The Dictators? Really?
Iluvpowerchords
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#5
The 'Tators sound nothing like VU.

But man do I love me some Go Girl Crazy!
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Sonic Youth, anyone?

I wouldn't classify them as anything with the word punk in it, but they all had a lot to do with it. Especially John Cale.
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Quote by Iluvpowerchords
The 'Tators sound nothing like VU.

But man do I love me some Go Girl Crazy!

Me too.

Lou Reed's solo music would be an obvious thing to look into.
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#8
The Jesus & Mary Chain sound like what The Velvet Underground would sound like if they liked the Ramones and had six times as much distortion.
Buck's Student
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Quote by werty22
Me too.

Lou Reed's solo music would be an obvious thing to look into.

John Cale's Sabotage album is one of the greatest punk albums, of all time! Lou never did anything like that.
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John Cale's Sabotage album is one of the greatest punk albums, of all time! Lou never did anything like that.

Metal Machine Music is the best album in history.
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Metal Machine Music is the best album in history.

Beat me to it.
It's the very essence of punk rock. *-)
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#13
The early THOMAS FUNCTION demos sound alot like THE VELVET UNDERGROUND
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Quote by Iluvpowerchords
The 'Tators sound nothing like VU.

But man do I love me some Go Girl Crazy!


nah, i was just listing proto punk bands. truth be told, there is really very little from the proto punk era that actually sounds like the VU. if we're not limiting ourselves to that, then check out

Suicide
Spacemen 3
Galaxie 500
Young Marble Giants

Swell Maps might be worth a listen too.
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#15
I love the Velvet Underground. Television has sort of a similar feel or whatever you want to call it. Dictator's Two Tub Man- "I think Lou Reed is a creep."
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Buck's Student
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I love the Velvet Underground. Television has sort of a similar feel or whatever you want to call it. Dictator's Two Tub Man- "I think Lou Reed is a creep."

Television were a bit more... Clean. Not nearly as noisy.
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This. Lou Reed's solo stuff is shit compared to Cale's. Anybody who says otherwise is a deaf hipster.

Yeah, but we all know Mo Tucker's is the best.
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#18
Yeah, Lou Reed's solo stuff seems kind of hackneyed, but he's got some good pop songs. Transformer is a little bit interesting because of Mick Ronson and David Bowie's parts in it. And The Blue Mask is awesome just because Robert Quine played on it.

I never took the time to listen to John Cale until today. I didn't really care for it. I was hoping for something less conventional. The songs I heard from Sabotage were pretty neat though.
IRISH_PUNK13
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Well I'm a huge Sonic youth junkie, and I like Jesus Mary chain. I guess I'll check out the other bands listed...
Also I agree that Lou Reeds solo work wasn't that great, I like some of his solo stuff but it's just not as good as VU.
Thanks.
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I put a ton of my capital into SW Airlines... The next day, THE NEXT DAY these nutters fly into the WTC. What the hell? Apparently no one wanted to fly anymore, and I was like "What gives? God damnit Osama, let me win a fuggin' game!"
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#20
jesus, lou reed's solo stuff is pretty awesome. i mean, there's a lot of shit and most of it fades in comparison to the 4 VU albums (or john cale's best) but there's some good stuff. street hassle, berlin, the blue mask, transfromer, new york... he's made some great albums.

also, i reckon vintage violence is john cale's best album. paris 1919 is great too though.
IRISH_PUNK13
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Quote by xX*Zeppelin*Xx
jesus, lou reed's solo stuff is pretty awesome. i mean, there's a lot of shit and most of it fades in comparison to the 4 VU albums (or john cale's best) but there's some good stuff. street hassle, berlin, the blue mask, transfromer, new york... he's made some great albums.

also, i reckon vintage violence is john cale's best album. paris 1919 is great too though.

Well I meant that it wasn't as good as his VU work, I likke his solo work, I actually listen to his stuff quite a bit.
Maybe I worded my last post the wrong way.
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#22
Been listening pretty religiously again.


Pale Blue Eyes is pretty much perfect, I'd passed over that third album in favour of &Nico (her voice irritates me nowadays) and WLWH back when I had my last VU phase, but it's got some great bits on it.
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Quote by DanRev
Been listening pretty religiously again.


Pale Blue Eyes is pretty much perfect, I'd passed over that third album in favour of &Nico (her voice irritates me nowadays) and WLWH back when I had my last VU phase, but it's got some great bits on it.

Yeah at first I thought her voice was good, but now I can't stand her...
I've been listening to their self titled album alot rescently.
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I put a ton of my capital into SW Airlines... The next day, THE NEXT DAY these nutters fly into the WTC. What the hell? Apparently no one wanted to fly anymore, and I was like "What gives? God damnit Osama, let me win a fuggin' game!"
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#24
I never liked Nico's singing, but I don't skip her tracks anymore.
I need to get the self-titled album still. I have the first two & Loaded.

I rock White Light/White Heat the most. "Here She Comes Now" and "Sister Ray" are my favorites, for completely opposite reasons.
IRISH_PUNK13
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#25
I always liked 'Here she comes now', and 'What goes on'..
'Heroin' has to be my favorite just cause the song structure.
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#27
I like a few Nico songs. Most aren't good. And she's awful at singing.
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Yeah, I don't like Nico much. All Tommorrow's Parties is a kewl song, but I think I'd like it better with Lou singing.
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My favorite John Cale albums are Words For The Dying (I'm a huge Dylan Thomas fan) and Paris 1919.

It's is worth mentioning Songs For Drella, the Cale/Reed collaboration. Brilliant.


Sabotage, The Island Years (Three albums in a two disk set), and Paris 1919. I pretty much like his entire seventies works, including collaborations.

...but, I'd never put Lou Reed down, other than he's always "tough guy", and he's written some of the most pansyassed stuff ever. I mean that in a good way. Satellite of Love is a great song.

Note on Nico: She was huge in Europe, or at least France. She was reduced to traveling in a station wagon before her death.
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IRISH_PUNK13
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Quote by Buck's Student
It's is worth mentioning Songs For Drella, the Cale/Reed collaboration. Brilliant.


Sabotage, The Island Years (Three albums in a two disk set), and Paris 1919. I pretty much like his entire seventies works, including collaborations.

...but, I'd never put Lou Reed down, other than he's always "tough guy", and he's written some of the most pansyassed stuff ever. I mean that in a good way. Satellite of Love is a great song.

Note on Nico: She was huge in Europe, or at least France. She was reduced to traveling in a station wagon before her death.

Did you seriously just say that Lou Reed is always tough guy?
I've never though of him like that.
But I do agree about the way he writes...
I guess that's what makes him so great.
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Quote by IRISH_PUNK13
Did you seriously just say that Lou Reed is always tough guy?
I've never though of him like that.
But I do agree about the way he writes...
I guess that's what makes him so great.

He generally tries to put on a macho act. Or, at least his attitude is usually "**** off, don't mess".
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#33
Nico's 3 (or 4) songs on The Velvet Underground & Nico are great and it really annoys me when people say they suck.
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#34
eh, i'm a nico fan but here voice is pretty hit and miss. there are moments in songs like femme fatale where i'll think "wow, the timbre of that is pretty gorgeous", in some other songs her voice is just grating.
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#35
I like "The Marble Index" the John Cale / Nico collaboration album, but its not very accessible.

I love Lou Reed and Jonathan Richmond. Jonathan and the Modern Lovers are definitely in the proto punk arena. And seeing Jonathan live is really, really fun. He's incredibly accessible as an artist. And check out Jonathan Richmond's other major influences--the early Stooges and the MC5s.
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...It's Richman.

Grammar police?

I never cared for the Modern Lovers, but love Jerry Harrison. I think his work in Talking Heads is so overlooked. Great guitar player.
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#38
Quote by werty22
Me too.

Lou Reed's solo music would be an obvious thing to look into.

Transformer is really great. OHH IT'S SUCH A PERFECT DAY
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Nico's 3 (or 4) songs on The Velvet Underground & Nico are great and it really annoys me when people say they suck.

"I'll Be Your Mirror" is killer.
"discos are preparing our youth for the reaction speeds neccessary for world war 3."