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Hey Pit, in my Western Civilization class I found out that some French people don't like it when foreigners pronounce Versailles anything other than vur-SIGH (true?) and having a Ukrainian brother-in-law I know that Ukrainians don't like it when people say THE Ukraine. Are there any places in your country that foreigners mispronounce and it makes you mildly irritated?
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#3
I always thought it was 'vur-says'

I only did french for a short time in school though, and that was a good few years ago, and I was never the best student...
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I always thought it was 'vur-says'

I only did french for a short time in school though, and that was a good few years ago, and I was never the best student...


the key is to pronounce the first 's' like a 'z' and to ignore the 'es' at the end.
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#8
How about we pronounce things the way those who are native speakers do?

Ergo: Versailles is not 'VURsails' but 'VairSIGH'. Birmingham is not 'BurmingHAM' but 'BURmingum'. Eyjafjallajökull is not 'Eyar whatever' but 'Eh-YA-fyat-le-yur-kootl'.
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#9
Well, it's not specific to Versailles (your phonetic rendition is roughly exact by the way), it's just irritating to hear certain words and names when they are obscenely misspelled, just like in any language.

Personally, I don't care about pronunciation as long as people make an effort to speak the language and it's understandable. And many foreign accents are cool, just like many of you would say the French accent is "cute". I actually like the English and German accents when they speak French.
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#11
americans pronounce a lot of australian places weird
ozz-tray-lia
mel-borne, we say it mel-bun
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Americans seem to think my name is pronounced K-Gel like I'm some lubricant selling rapper. I forgive them, though.
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#15
Quote by Kumanji
How about we pronounce things the way those who are native speakers do?


the problem is the difference between languages. Try to pronounce " 's gravenhage" like a dutchman does. You'll most likely fail because you have to use phonetics that don't exist in english.
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#16
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Nietzsche = "Nee-tch" in French.




All that consonant cluster reduction is why my french accent is so terrible...
#17
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Americans seem to think my name is pronounced K-Gel like I'm some lubricant selling rapper. I forgive them, though.


Well, to be fair, you do give that impression.

Anyway, English people often completely mispronounce Irish place names. It's quite funny.
#18
How DO you pronounce your name?
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Quote by watto25
americans pronounce a lot of australian places weird
ozz-tray-lia
mel-borne, we say it mel-bun

Yeah, melbooooooooooooooorne is totally wrong, guys.

Lay off the "O's" and don't be so hard on that 'R.'

We're very lazy with our R's over here.

Also I had no idea you sigged me and can't even recall where or why I said that.
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Quote by the bartender
the problem is the difference between languages. Try to pronounce " 's gravenhage" like a dutchman does. You'll most likely fail because you have to use phonetics that don't exist in english.


"ij" is a particularly difficult dipthong I've found.
#21
Seriously? Neechee? Is 'Neechuh' too hard to say? xD

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the problem is the difference between languages. Try to pronounce " 's gravenhage" like a dutchman does. You'll most likely fail because you have to use phonetics that don't exist in english.

I suppose you just have to make your best effort. Neechee and Vursails is just plain lazy.
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americans pronounce a lot of australian places weird
ozz-tray-lia
mel-borne, we say it mel-bun


I say mel-burn xD I'm somewhere halfway between I gather...
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Americans seem to think my name is pronounced K-Gel like I'm some lubricant selling rapper. I forgive them, though.

How do you pronounce it? Like Kyell?
#25
^ Kj- in Swedish is like ch- in English.

I find a lot of people also have difficulty distinguishing between a and ä, and o and ö, even though they are totally different sounds.
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Americans seem to think my name is pronounced K-Gel like I'm some lubricant selling rapper. I forgive them, though.

Seriously?
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^ Kj- in Swedish is like ch- in English.

I find a lot of people also have difficulty distinguishing between a and ä, and o and ö, even though they are totally different sounds.

How can you mistake o for ö?! Seriously wtf. Or for ø for that matter.
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Hey Pit, in my Western Civilization class I found out that some French people don't like it when foreigners pronounce Versailles anything other than vur-SIGH (true?)


That'll be true, because that's the correct pronunciation. How would you pronounce it? Ver-say-les?
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That'll be true, because that's the correct pronunciation. How would you pronounce it? Ver-say-les?


I am still convinced that even vurSIGH is wrong, since 'sigh' is pronounced with a hard 's', and versailles is prounced with a 'z' sound.
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#31
alot of dutch people pronounce word likes chord wrong

they'll say something like tsjord insteand of Kord. It can be anoying if you are a guitar player in Holland :P

oh and character is ofcourse pronounced as tsjarakturrr (emphasis on the R)
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Quote by Kumanji
How can you mistake o for ö?! Seriously wtf. Or for ø for that matter.


I don't know, and I know each scandinavian country does them a bit differently, but I always hear the politician Lembit Öpik being introduced as Lembit Oh-pik.

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I am still convinced that even vurSIGH is wrong, since 'sigh' is pronounced with a hard 's', and versailles is prounced with a 'z' sound.


All voiced /s/ is actually /z/. Most people don't realise it because of the spellings they are used to associating with the sounds.
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#33
^ The best experience I have with those vowels is checking the bit in Tolkien novels to double check how things should be said in Tolkien's novels.

Oh. Americans can't say Craig right either which is irritating. My name is Craig, not Kraig.
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Quote by Mistress_Ibanez
I don't know, and I know each scandinavian country does them a bit differently, but I always hear the politician Lembit Öpik being introduced as Lembit Oh-pik.

Heck, I didn't even realize the poor chap had an umlaut, I've only ever heard him referred to.
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Quote by Mistress_Ibanez
I don't know, and I know each scandinavian country does them a bit differently, but I always hear the politician Lembit Öpik being introduced as Lembit Oh-pik.

How would you say it then? I'd say OOO-pik... But I don't know much about those scandalous languages...
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Quote by freddaahh
That'll be true, because that's the correct pronunciation. How would you pronounce it? Ver-say-les?

It depends, really. It's most common in the US for people to say vur-'sails or ver-'says.
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Heck, I didn't even realize the poor chap had an umlaut, I've only ever heard him referred to.


I've never read it with an umlaut, either. Maybe he stopped spelling with it himself?

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Personally, I don't care about pronunciation as long as people make an effort to speak the language and it's understandable. And many foreign accents are cool, just like many of you would say the French accent is "cute". I actually like the English and German accents when they speak French.


Really? That's quite nice to know, I always hated the sound of Anglicised French, it always sounds so clunky. But I always like the sound of French accented English.
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alot of dutch people pronounce word likes chord wrong

they'll say something like tsjord insteand of Kord. It can be anoying if you are a guitar player in Holland :P


dutch accent in english is halarious :P. "I tink tat joe are not goed in joer hed"

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How would you say it then? I'd say OOO-pik... But I don't know much about those scandalous languages...


an ö is ussually pronounced "eu"
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#39
Quote by freddaahh

Really? That's quite nice to know, I always hated the sound of Anglicised French, it always sounds so clunky. But I always like the sound of French accented English.


One of my housemates from my first year at uni has a very strong Barnsley accent and tried talkng French to our French housemate.

Some gems:

Mer-see boo-cup
Champ-pag-knee
Carver bee-rut
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Quote by halo43
How would you say it then? I'd say OOO-pik... But I don't know much about those scandalous languages...



A very high very round vowel, so your lips would be in a small o-shape and your tongue would be flat at the bottom of your mouth, and it would be like a uuu sound, like How people in Northern England say book, or kind of like the vowel in 'few'.
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