Poll: What should I do with my €1000
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View poll results: What should I do with my €1000
Spend it all on a new guitar to replace my old one
1 2%
Spend most of it on a great-quality amp and mod my old guitar
39 72%
Buy a decent-quality guitar and a small tube amp/pedals to tide me over
14 26%
Voters: 54.
#1
I currently have a MIM '92 Strat with SSS pickups, and a Cube20x.

Eventually I want both a better guitar (but anyway an HSS one) and a better amp.

I only play at home and I can't crank anything really loud.

I don't want to buy used. -It's not easy where I live anyway.

Option 1: Spend the whole €1000 on one good guitar. Buy a better amp later.

Option 2: Buy the best amp I can find and a bunch of pedals, and mod my strat for HSS. Then buy a better guitar in the (distant) future.

Option 3: Buy a new guitar (my strat is a bit long in the tooth), for around €600, and spend the rest on getting a good small tube amp and a couple of pedals to tide me over until I live somewhere I'll be able to fully appreciate a good-size amp to it's full potential.

What do you think I should do?
Ibanez AF105VB
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MIM '92 Fender Strat
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and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
Last edited by finetune at May 18, 2010,
#2
Genres?
Gigging?

I would say go about half half since you aren't going to be rocking a dual rec at full volume.
Last edited by AxSilentxLine at May 18, 2010,
#3
Does your guitar play well?
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#5
No gigging. Does genre really matter? But anyway with this guitar I'd be playing everything from blues to 80's metal (i.e. not the modern stuff)

My strat does play well, but the frets are not what they used to be...
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#6
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ha ha. yes but since it's about more than just guitars I thought I should post it here.
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#7
Quote by finetune
No gigging. Does genre really matter? But anyway with this guitar I'd be playing everything from blues to 80's metal (i.e. not the modern stuff)

My strat does play well, but the frets are not what they used to be...

Well i'm not gonna suggest a Casino if you're playing Brootalz. I think a strat is gonna be your best bet
#8
Quote by AxSilentxLine
Well i'm not gonna suggest a Casino if you're playing Brootalz. I think a strat is gonna be your best bet


sorry, yeah I see what you mean.

The thing is, there really aren't that many guitars in the €1000 range that I like. Most of the guitars I like are more expensive (MIA Standard costs around €1100-€1200 for example).

But then, on the other hand, I don't know if I'll ever be able to justify spending that much on a guitar, so maybe I should just get a cheaper one to complement my strat.

I should say that the €1000 budget is fixed. It's not a case of saving up more money. I can't spend more than that on music stuff (not for at least another year anyway!).
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#9
You can get strat copies for half the cost of a MIA Fender that are still very good, don't ask me to name any though I know about as much about Strats as I know about Cold Fusion...

I know Schecter make a nice Strat copy but someone will no doubtedly suggest a better one
#10
Oh yeah, I have my sights on a whole string of strats, such as the MIM Standard, MIM Deluxe, Jimmy Vaughan signature, etc., (some of which I may have to mod to get HSS, but that's another story).

I'm just having a hard time choosing which path I should go down. There are so many permutations of guitars/amps/effects that I could get for €1000 that I decided to create a poll and see if that would help me decide. Once I decide if I take option 1, 2 or 3, then I can start worrying about which guitar (if any) and which amp (if any), cause otherwise I'm going to go nuts!
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#11
Why not just get your strat refretted/replace the neck? Then go buy a nice amp...eh? ehhh?
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#12
Both?
Maybe look into some G&L, tokai and Levison Blade.

And as for amps something like a Laney Lionheart, Egnater Rebel, Egnater Tweaker, Vox Night Train head (+cab), Orange Tiny Terror.

Then a few nice pedals.
Last edited by beckyjc at May 18, 2010,
#13
Quote by mcraddict81592
Why not just get your strat refretted/replace the neck? Then go buy a nice amp...eh? ehhh?


I guess I could do that but it's quite a bit of work and money for a re-fret. Probably cheaper to buy a new neck once the old one wears out, but I'd rather not. I've had this guitar for a long time and I'd rather it retired gracefully into disuse than break it up.
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#15
Depends what the guitar means to you. Maybe it's just me but I'd never stop using a guitar just because it gets old. I think you should get a new neck and therefrom find a nice amplifier.
#16
No I didn't mean to suggest I'd stop using it. It's just that it means a lot to me and while replacing the neck may be a very practical solution (hey, that's one thing that makes strats so great!), it doesn't really sit well with me -for this guitar.

It's not like the guitar is about to die. It's in good shape, but eventually, if I keep hammering at it, it will need either new frets or a new neck. So I'd like to get another guitar to take some playing time off it (and also because I like new stuff ).

So my question is whether I should mod it to HSS and then get another guitar later, like maybe neck year, and a good amp now, or get a decent amp, like a BHLG, and some pedals, and then another MIM strat or something.

I'm glad hardly anyone's voted for Option 1, because if I went with my heart I'd probably go out and blow all the money on one guitar, and then feel really guilty as I played it through my tiny cube20! So, buying with my head leaves option 2 or 3.

You guys are giving me the reality-check I need!
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#17
Consider something, I have an MIM from the same year, the neck is a hell of a lot nicer than modern MIM necks ive played on. Personally id go for a refret. Keep it as it is.
Buy something cheap with humbuckers. (You dont have to spend 1k on a guitar for it to make you happy)

And buy a new amp with the leftovers.

Plus you have a real nice artcore listen in your sig, what do you want a HSS guitar for? Unless you're playing metal or something.
#18
ha ha, yes it's for metal and everything else I don't play with my artcore. I play my Ibanez about 75% of the time as I primarily play jazz. However, I've recently fallen off the wagon and gone back to playing metal as well. Hence the need for a good old H.

You're right, the MIM neck on mine is nice. Maybe I will think about it for the future.
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
Last edited by finetune at May 18, 2010,
#19
Id go for the cheap Ibby RG321 then, theyre nice guitars. Hard tail though. But good for the money. You'd have a good range of versatility in your rig then. You could probably get one for around €300 new.

And still have well enough left over for a nice amp.
#20
Thanks, I'll be sure to check them out. To be honest I hadn't really looked at cheaper-end guitars, but it's an idea. I might have to try quite a few to find one I like, but if I can then maybe I can have my cake and eat it too...
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#21
You could still go with option 4: hookers and blow.

Seriously though, cheap guitars can be great too. Like you say, you might have to look harder for a good specimen, but you can find great deals with a little effort.
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#22
i would do 2 or 3, depending on how nice your strat is.
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#23
ok my current plan is to pick out a good amp that meets all my current needs, buy any pedals I need to complement it, and then see what I can do with the money I have left.

The thing is, I had a conversation with my wife where she was asking why I would want to spend a whole load of money on a great amp if I can't really use it where I live, and then she said (this is the good part), "why don't you just spend less money on an amp now, and then buy a better amp when we move somewhere more isolated".

So, even though I've really appreciated all the responses and suggestions to this thread, I think the above statement is a bit of a 'game-changer'!! She's given me tacit approval to buy an amp now and then buy another better one in the future!

So I think I'll try out a whole load of amps but only get one that makes sense for my current situation. The BHLG I tried is winning big time at the moment. It's 5w (or 3w attenuated) so I couldn't crank it, but it has a nice big speaker, sounded nice and clean in the shop, and I've need a load of great-sounding clips in youtube where people are using pedals with it. And it's only about €250. The AC4 was also good, and similarly priced, but didn't really sound as clean. Nice to have the 1w and 1/4w settings though!

I still want to try the BH Handsome Devil and the HT5. (I think the HT5 new is a bit overpriced from what I read though.) I really liked the Blues Junior I tried as well, but that's quite a bit more money and probably isn't my ultimate amp. For that I might look at the Laney L5, which looks really good, or maybe the VOX AC15.
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#24
^ Fair enough. If that's the case, try out a Laney Cub! I tried it side-to-side against a Vox AC4TV and it beat it out, IMO.
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#25
I did try the Cub, it was a 10 I believe. I liked it and it had good cleans, but the Vox is more versatile with the on-board attenuator. I'd really like to try out the Cub12R, but I haven't found any yet.

I think the BHLG is much better than those though, overall.
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#26
Ok, final decision (most likely..) I'm going to do Option 2....mod my strat to HSS...buy a nice little tube amp and a pedal or two....and then buy a better guitar to complement my strat in a year or so...and then buy a much better amp once I move out of this place.
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#27
I say don't bother getting a 5w amp, they really aren't that much quieter they simply have less headroom. Remember, every amp has a volume knob.

Besides, a bigger amp won't sound bad on low volumes, it won't be reaching it's full potential but few amps actually sound bad on low volumes.
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#28
That's true, but I don't really need much headroom. I wouldn't rule out bigger amps though. I'm just going to get something that meets my current needs. I'll worry about the future...er...later.
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#29
I'd go with the HT-5, not the combo though, the head and cab. Great sounding little tube amp and it's pretty versatile as well. You won't be getting any crushing distortion, but I doubt you'll need that with your music preferences. This amp is great clean and overdriven though.
#30
Quote by finetune
The thing is, there really aren't that many guitars in the €1000 range that I like. Most of the guitars I like are more expensive (MIA Standard costs around €1100-€1200 for example).


MIA Standards go for about 650 second hand and can be gotten for 800 new if you know where to look What country are you in?
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#31
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MIA Standards go for about 650 second hand and can be gotten for 800 new if you know where to look What country are you in?


Spain. If you know where you can get one of these around that price new in or near Madrid, let me know!

edit: about the lowest price I've found is €1100, but that's for an SSS. HSS = more. Also, bear in mind I won't buy anything I can't play first, so that rules-out interweb shops.

Anyway, I'm ditching the new guitar idea for now. Going to mod my MIM and see what I'd like to buy like in a year or so.
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
Last edited by finetune at May 24, 2010,
#32
I ordered my MIA from the states when the exchange rate was good. Saved myself a fortune.

I modded my MIM Tele and it sounds better than my MIA Strat now.
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#33
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Nice one. Looks like those days are over.

Yeah, I'm actually really looking forward to how the strat turns out now. Gonna be new nut, new pickguard, humbucker in the bridge instead of the stock standard pup, and replaced saddle-screws to make palm-muting more comfortable. Plus, rewire it so tone 1 controls Neck and Middle, and tone 2 controls Bridge. I'm thinking about the coil-split too on the HB, but have to do some more reading on that.
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
#35
cool -thanks

would make it super-versatile. I'll definitely think about doing this.

edit: thinking out loud, is it possible to wire this into a five-way switch (i.e. the stock one)? I don't think I ever use the middle pup by itself, so I could go neck, neck/middle, middle/coil split, bridge coil split, bridge humbucker. possible?
Ibanez AF105VB
Ibanez RG2550Z
MIM '92 Fender Strat
Peavey Triumph 60
MXR-108.
and that's it. done buying stuff. probably.
Last edited by finetune at May 24, 2010,