#1
I am looking to put a new set of pickups in my Epi. Les Paul Standard. The stock ones are a little on the muddy side, of course.

I really want a Patent Applied For tone out of them, I was looking into WCR Crossroads, or Barekuckles, but 300+$ is more than I want to spend.

With a budget of ~200$, what are my options here?
#2
BKPs are only ~$260 a set at AxePalace.com (they went up a bit, but still the cheapest).

Also, check into BG and Motor City Pickups
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#3
Duncan Antiquities are actually pretty damn good IMO. Sheptones are around $200 though so I might go with those.
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#4
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#5
Quote by Beffyyy

He's in the US


Also... how come your profile says your name is Bethany and your pictures clearly show you're a girl... but on your band's profile, it says your name is John Greenhill?

I are confused
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#6
Quote by MatrixClaw
He's in the US


Also... how come your profile says your name is Bethany and your pictures clearly show you're a girl... but on your band's profile, it says your name is John Greenhill?

I are confused

it's a TRAP
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#7
Definately give RockMonkey a look, I've got the Smooth Heritage and Vintage Original and they both sound really good.

http://rockmonkeyguitars.com/
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#8
Quote by mmolteratx
Duncan Antiquities are actually pretty damn good IMO. Sheptones are around $200 though so I might go with those.


The Sheptones seen pretty good, 125$ for a single or 225$ for a set for his tribute model seems decet, although a little more than I was looking to spend. What does it mean when it asks for a 2 wire or 4 wire model?

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The Blues engine seems to be to my liking, and the price is quite modest. I don't know if I like this more or less then the Sheptone yet, but I am not in the UK, and that might be an issue.
#9
i'm really liking bg right now.
Wolfetone marshallhead or legends are great as well
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#11
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it's a TRAP

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#12
Quote by whitenihilist

The Blues engine seems to be to my liking, and the price is quite modest. I don't know if I like this more or less then the Sheptone yet, but I am not in the UK, and that might be an issue.


even with shipping to the us, its still going to be cheap.
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#13
Quote by holycow
even with shipping to the us, its still going to be cheap.


This.

Ill vouch for Iron Gears quality too, I use a Steamhammer in the bridge of my AP2 Super Strat and have used their Hot Slags [sic!] too. Very nice pickups and easily on par if not better than the established brands.

Just email Axetec, he's a great guy and will advise you on shipping costs to the US.
#14
Okay so I am looking at 2 options:

BG Bucker Clear Top Limited Dual Pole in Bridge postion

$100.00

These have a great tone from the clips, and they are limited to only 100 made.
Info: This set is wound like a stock set of BGBs but they are wound on 2 NOS screw pole clear T-Top bobbins from the old Gibson Kalamazoo factory. Also this set use 2 A4 magnets specifically tuned for this set.
I could just go for the normal BG bucker, but this sounds like it's overall quality is higher.

and a Iron Gear Blues Engine in the neck.

What do you think if this combo? Or should I just get both pickups from the same set?
#16
emg's at 18 volts, or emg x
i like 81/60 combo
dont listen to the active pickup haters, theres a reason most of my favourite bands use em
if you have a tube amp active pickups are where its at.
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#18
Quote by Harvesterofsrrw
emg's at 18 volts, or emg x
i like 81/60 combo
dont listen to the active pickup haters, theres a reason most of my favourite bands use em
if you have a tube amp active pickups are where its at.

Sorry, but only someone who has never tried a good passive pickup would say this
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#19
if u get two different pickups, u'd have to pay shipping twice. why not get the same brand for both pickups?
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#20
Shipping is like $5. Why not get 2 different brands if that gives him the tone he wants?
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#21
Quote by MatrixClaw
Sorry, but only someone who has never tried a good passive pickup would say this

ive tried every passive pickup ever made pretty much and ive owned over 20 guitars and swapped pickups in all of them many times over, goes to show what you know
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#22
Quote by Harvesterofsrrw
ive tried every passive pickup ever made pretty much and ive owned over 20 guitars and swapped pickups in all of them many times over, goes to show what you know

Shows what you know. You apparently didn't even pay attention to the OP's needs. He's looking for a PAF voiced pickup, and you named EMGs.

BTW, exaggeration much? EVERY passive pickup ever made?
#23
Quote by whitenihilist
EMGs are great and all, but don't have the PAF like tone I am looking for.

yeah i kinda skipped that part and didint catch on when you said patent applied for tone lol
why not just get a dimarzio 36th anniverary paf then?
if you want a paf thats probably the closest your gonna get
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#24
Quote by forsaknazrael
Shows what you know. You apparently didn't even pay attention to the OP's needs. He's looking for a PAF voiced pickup, and you named EMGs.

BTW, exaggeration much? EVERY passive pickup ever made?

yeah my bad i missed the paf part, as for me trying every humbucker known to mankind i pretty much have and im not exagerating
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#26
Quote by Harvesterofsrrw
ive tried every passive pickup ever made pretty much and ive owned over 20 guitars and swapped pickups in all of them many times over, goes to show what you know

Something tells me you've only tried Duncans and DiMarzios
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#27
After a disappointingly low paycheck ( It was about 100$ less that I expected) I decided to go with Irongear since they have a good price range for what I am looking for. Thanks for all the help guys.

Since I have never done anything like a pickup swap before ( no time like the present to learn amirite?) I will probably be begging for help soon.
#29
Quote by forsaknazrael
Why not wait until the next paycheck?

There are tons of diagrams on the 'net, and tons of people in the GB+C forum who can help.



The next few are tied up in bills and such ****ing bills.
#30
Quote by MatrixClaw
Something tells me you've only tried Duncans and DiMarzios

add bill lawrence, bareknuckles, rickenbacker, fender, dean, lace, rockfield, prs, shadow, fernandez, gibson, kent armstrong, motor city and many others
when something new comes out i try it asap.
if there are any humbuckers i have not tried its a very short list
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Esp Ltd KH-603, Schecter c-1+ and Epiphone Les Pauls
Carvin amps, Sperzel Trim-Lok, Emg active pickups only, Tonepros bridges.
#31
Wolfetone? Rock Monkey? Throbak? WCR? Hi Order?
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Feel free to express yours so I can make an informed judgement about how stupid you are.
#33
there are wiring diagrams in the irongear website
http://www.irongear.co.uk/irongear_038.htm
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Fender Blues Junior III Humholdt
#34
I had a set of WCR Crossroads. I'd look into Wolfetones if you want something slightly cheaper maybe. My Crossroads and Wolfetone PAF copies (basically Dr. Vintage set with aged A5 magnets) were very similar sounding.
#35
Quote by Harvesterofsrrw
yeah i kinda skipped that part and didint catch on when you said patent applied for tone lol
why not just get a dimarzio 36th anniverary paf then?
if you want a paf thats probably the closest your gonna get



Quote by Harvesterofsrrw
add bill lawrence, bareknuckles, rickenbacker, fender, dean, lace, rockfield, prs, shadow, fernandez, gibson, kent armstrong, motor city and many others
when something new comes out i try it asap.
if there are any humbuckers i have not tried its a very short list



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Hapas Sludge 7 FF / Hapas Leviathan
Anderson Baritom / Motorcity Nuke BKP Sinner Anderson H2+
Warmoth Baritone / BKP Piledriver
Ibanez Rg2120x / BKP Nailbomb

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