#1
hey guys!
i recently bought a tube amp. they told me i cannot connect my head to cab with a regular instrument cable, i must use a speaker cable or whatever or it will tear it up. SO, since it is harmful to do that, is it bad to use a speaker cable to pluge my tuner into the dry out on my whammy pedal (running through fx loop on amp) or my tuner out on the back of my amp?

also, when i bought my amp they said i needed to turn on the stand by switch for at least thirty seconds before i played it. i was also not aware of this...so since i have to let it warm up on stand by, do i need to put it on stand by for a certain amount of time before i turn it off as well?

sorry if these are silly common knowledge questions, but ive only owned solid state my whole life so i didnt know.
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#2
I don't know why it would be bad to use a speaker cable to go to a tuner out, I also don't know why you would, unless you didn't have an instrument patch cable,,
also when powering off the amp let it sit in standby for a little while just as when you turn it on.
#3
using a speaker cable shouldn't be a problem for running into your tuner. and yes, you should leave the amp on standby for like a minute before putting it on play. if not, your tubes won't last long
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#4
im out of instrument cables...and i have the speaker cable from my solid state amp that im using to run my tuner out XD and i had been leaving it on stand by before i turned it off, but i wasnt 100% sure
thanks for the help guys!
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hey guys!
i recently bought a tube amp. they told me i cannot connect my head to cab with a regular instrument cable, i must use a speaker cable or whatever or it will tear it up. SO, since it is harmful to do that, is it bad to use a speaker cable to pluge my tuner into the dry out on my whammy pedal (running through fx loop on amp) or my tuner out on the back of my amp?

also, when i bought my amp they said i needed to turn on the stand by switch for at least thirty seconds before i played it. i was also not aware of this...so since i have to let it warm up on stand by, do i need to put it on stand by for a certain amount of time before i turn it off as well?

sorry if these are silly common knowledge questions, but ive only owned solid state my whole life so i didnt know.
thanks ya'll!
bi-ah!


only downside to using a speaker cable for your instrument chain is susceptability to noise, but since it is used for a dead-end to your tuner, go for it. using an instrument cable for your speaker load can damage the output transformer though.
turning your amp on it is reccommended to have it on standby at least 30 seconds, but turning it off you do not need to do any waiting
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#6
wouldn't using an instrument cable to connect to a speaker burn before the output transformer burns?
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#7
^they would happen at the same time pretty much because when there isnt a speaker loud on the head, the output transformer goes
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#8
the scary part for the OT is when the output shorts i think... yes, if there isn't a speaker load, it can blow. but it doesn't happen in like 0.5 second. it takes a bit of time to blow out an OT without a speaker. since i've turned on my amp without my speaker once, for like 30 seconds. it still works, and it doesn't sound bad.
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only downside to using a speaker cable for your instrument chain is susceptability to noise, but since it is used for a dead-end to your tuner, go for it. using an instrument cable for your speaker load can damage the output transformer though.
turning your amp on it is reccommended to have it on standby at least 30 seconds, but turning it off you do not need to do any waiting

wait i dont need to turn it to standby to turn it off?
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#10
When turning it off just reverse the order of how you turned it on, but you don't need to wait.

Flick standby, flick power.

You only need to wait when you turn it on so it can warm up
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#11
you should wait three seconds in standby when switching an amp off. or just hit the power switch and turn it right off. this will not damage your amp. your thinking why 3 seconds??? cause you'll hear a POP coming from the speaker if you do it too fast. no sure if this is bad for the amp but its not good for the speaker.
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When turning it off just reverse the order of how you turned it on, but you don't need to wait.

Flick standby, flick power.

You only need to wait when you turn it on so it can warm up

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#13
Wait, are you saying you want to run a speaker cable into a tuner and then into the cab? If that's what you're saying, do NOT do that.
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Wait, are you saying you want to run a speaker cable into a tuner and then into the cab? If that's what you're saying, do NOT do that.

ive got it on the dry side of my whammy??
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#15
This can be explained very simply and it has been covered pretty much.

A speaker cable can carry more current than an instrument cable. Turn up the amp when using an instrument cable - centre core of cable blows. This creates an open circuit which in turn blows the output of the amp - in milliseconds
An instrument cable is designed to eliminate as much noise as possible using electrostatic shielding. Using a speaker cable on a signal (especially a small signal like what comes from a guitar) will be noisier. You might get away with it fine on a tuner but it won't track as fast and could give errors at times if in an electrically noisy environment (like around amplifiers and lighting)
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#16
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you should wait three seconds in standby when switching an amp off. or just hit the power switch and turn it right off. this will not damage your amp. your thinking why 3 seconds??? cause you'll hear a POP coming from the speaker if you do it too fast. no sure if this is bad for the amp but its not good for the speaker.

???? Never heard a pop in my life. Just flick off both switches at the same time. That's the way I've done it for 15+ years and dozens of tube amps. Never heard a pop or had a problem.
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you should wait three seconds in standby when switching an amp off. or just hit the power switch and turn it right off. this will not damage your amp. your thinking why 3 seconds??? cause you'll hear a POP coming from the speaker if you do it too fast. no sure if this is bad for the amp but its not good for the speaker.


some amps have that pop, some dont
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