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#1
My band parted ways with one of our guitarists a little while back. He hadn't been putting forth any effort to improve his playing and learn songs. He would just sit there during practice and many times asked me for the chords in the middle of a song live. It was supposed to be purely professional. No friendships broken, nothing personal.

Then things got out of hand.

He got really defensive and begged for his spot back into the band. He insulted our lead singer/rhythm guitarist and cut off their friendship. He took it all very personally, getting really down on himself and very very defensive. Since then, very little contact has been made with him. About a week ago, he posted a facebook status saying he was looking for a guitarist, drummer, and maybe keyboardist for a band, which we all heartily lol'd at.

The whole issue had been dormant until a few days ago. He sent our bassist and lead singer a message on facebook. He said how we owed him money. He wasn't able to be at a few shows we played due to various conflicts, and he expected payment. None of us at the moment are getting any profit from this band besides a meal here and there. He also expects compensation for us using his truck to travel while he was in the band.

tl;dr: We kicked out our guitarist and now he wants us to pay him and is going way too far...but you should seriously read the whole thing.

So Pit, discuss. We don't think we owe him anything..what should we do?
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#3
I guess you could kick him in the face.

Or you know, talk to him?
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#4
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I guess you could kick him in the face.

Or you know, talk to him?

We've tried talking to him and being reasonable, but he gets so defensive and emotional. :\
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#5
no you dont
hes an ass
just ignore him
he cant do anything
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#7
Well I wouldnt worry about it,

he has no legal rights over you, not only this but if he has severed contact with you guys just block him on facebook?

or if worst comes to worse give him a tenner and just say that its petrol money for the lifts?

Also dont be dicks about him wanting to start a new band, why shouldnt he?

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#8
Moon him and ignore him. Eventually he'll grow up (hopefully).

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#9
even if you did owe him anything he wouldnt be able to do anything about it. a judge would laugh in his face if he asked to sue you for 20 bucks, a hamburger and gas money.
#10
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Well I wouldnt worry about it,

he has no legal rights over you, not only this but if he has severed contact with you guys just block him on facebook?

or if worst comes to worse give him a tenner and just say that its petrol money for the lifts?

Also dont be dicks about him wanting to start a new band, why shouldnt he?

It just feels like he's trying to start one to try to get back at us. The whole reason we parted ways with him was that he had other priorities and wasn't putting forth effort.
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#12
There's not exactly much you can do. he's got no legal right to any money, so don't give him any. Just ignore the guy, or if he gets up in your grill and physical, kick his ass.
#13
You used his truck.

Gas isn't cheap.

Pay the ass and be done with it.
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It just feels like he's trying to start one to try to get back at us. The whole reason we parted ways with him was that he had other priorities and wasn't putting forth effort.



Or because he enjoyed playing in a band?

Hence why he was so desperate to get back with you guys?

Anyway,


give the guy some gas money, apologise and be done with it.

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#16
Quote by JRib1216
It just feels like he's trying to start one to try to get back at us.

If that's true, and you let it bother you, he wins.
If it's not true, and you let it bother you, he wins.
If it's true and you ignore it, you win.
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#17
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You used his truck.

Gas isn't cheap.

Pay the ass and be done with it.

haha that's probably what we'll do..even though we payed for the gas we used while traveling with it.. :\ he wants us to pay because of the miles we put on it....
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#18
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haha that's probably what we'll do..even though we payed for the gas we used while traveling with it.. :\ he wants us to pay because of the miles we put on it....

Dude wat? Did you take a cross-country trip or something? Because if he's bitching about a hundred miles or two tell him to cut back on his trips to the store and he'll make it back up.

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#19
Well, how many miles was it? If it was maybe 100 at most, he's being a dick. If it was a thousand or so you ought to pay up, because that basically cuts resale in half.

Also how much does he want?
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#20
Who decides to drive a gas guzzling truck to gigs, really?
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#21
ya thats crazy he wants compensation for shows he never played for...

he can join my band lol, I wanted to try and get out but they are taking my "I will play until you can get another guy going" too lightly and put it on the back burner after a week of looking... They make good money, but he has to learn 50+ songs


but seriously, just explain they only compensation he would deserve is fuel and thats if you never put any in his truck... other wise if you are all going to the same gig - why would it be an issue?
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#22
Your ex-bandmate seems to be an idiot. I wouldn't take this issue seriously. Those reasons he mentioned are not even sufficient for him to sue you.


BTW, TS what is the guy's name in your avatar?? I've seen him paint the most awesome pictures but I can't remember his name..
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#23
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BTW, TS what is the guy's name in your avatar?? I've seen him paint the most awesome pictures but I can't remember his name..

Dude, you don't know remember Bob Ross's name?
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#24
Quote by necrosis1193
Well, how many miles was it? If it was maybe 100 at most, he's being a dick. If it was a thousand or so you ought to pay up, because that basically cuts resale in half.

Also how much does he want?

It wasnt that many at all..not sure how much he wants, i didn't get the message he sent out, it only went to our bassist and lead singer. He just said we owe him money. Oh and another thing, he started our band's facebook page so now we can't remove him as an admin...
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#25
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Who decides to drive a gas guzzling truck to gigs, really?


+1

And, besides... Its not like you made him drive at gunpoint.
#26
Quote by JRib1216
It wasnt that many at all..not sure how much he wants, i didn't get the message he sent out, it only went to our bassist and lead singer. He just said we owe him money. Oh and another thing, he started our band's facebook page so now we can't remove him as an admin...


Start another page. Change your name if you need to, it worked for Jefferson Airplane... Kind of...
#27
Tell him you're not going to pay him a cent. Report the facebook page if he won't get off it. He's bluffing - he has no bargaining power.
#28
Quote by BigBigWater
Who decides to drive a gas guzzling truck to gigs, really?

We just needed something to haul our system across the state :\
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#29
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#30
Whomp him.
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#31
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Well, how many miles was it? If it was maybe 100 at most, he's being a dick. If it was a thousand or so you ought to pay up, because that basically cuts resale in half.

maybe if you want the gas payed you have to tell before people come with you? i dont grab a pair of friends , drive a thousand miles and then "hey guys, time to pay"
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#32
If he was the one carting you guys around, he needs compensation for petrol/gas at least. I mean, you should be asking for at least petrol/gas money from venues, the stuff doesn't come free. Never assume you're going to be given a free ride every time you play a gig.
#33
If you've already paid gas money, I don't see what he wants.
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#35
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It just feels like he's trying to start one to try to get back at us.


That's how Megadeth started, your friend could be on to something...

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Maybe pay him for gas, but other than that, you don't owe him shit.
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#36
Don't give him anything.

There was no agreement between any of you that you had to compensate him for anything nor would anything be broken if he was to be ejected from the band.
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#37
ah so this is what happens when 16 yr olds make a band.
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#38
Write a whole concept album about his mum, and invite him to a gig where you play the whole thing.
#39
You don't owe him anything. If he is your friend, he will know that. Don't worry about him trying to sue you.
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