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Schism1985
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UPDATE (July 13th, 2010): The body and neck just came in! Pics start on page 3

Some of the other regulars have probably heard me talking about my Warmoth Soloist project in the Jim Thread... well after months of brainstorming and researching I finally ordered it

I just got an email from Warmoth saying that the parts should be shipped by mid-late July, so until then, here are the exact specs for the guitar and a couple pics of the hardware I already have:

Rough Kisekae Mock Up:

*Headstock will be the standard Warmoth shape with 3+3 tuners
** Bridge will be modern Fender American Standard, not vintage
*** Nut will not be locking

Body


Shape: Carved top soloist
Wood: Mahogany core w/ flame maple laminate
Finish: Black-Brown-Yellow burst
Bridge: Fender American Standard trem + Graph Tech String Saver Saddles + Tremol-no
Pickups: Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro Slash (Neck), Bare Knuckle Nail Bomb (Bridge)
Schaller Strap Locks



Neck


Type: Warmoth Angled Pro Construction -- 21 Frets
Headstock shape: Warmoth
Finish: Vintage Tint Gloss
Neck Wood: Flame Maple
Fretboard: Brazilian Rosewood

Inlays: Mother of Pearl dots
Frets: Stainless steel 6150
Nut: Graph tech Black TUSQ XL
Tuners: Planet Waves Auto-Trim tuners (chrome)


Here's a thumbnail pic of the wood being used for the fretboard:


The components I have thus far:


Tremol-No:


Sorry about the lack of pics at the moment, I promise I'll post plenty once everything gets here. As always, comments, criticism, advice etc. are more than welcome
Last edited by Schism1985 at Jul 13, 2010,
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Quote by blandguitar
I like the f-board figuration, do SS frets play different? Or are they just durable as sh*t? I'm excited to see it all put together.


Thanks man, me too

The advantage of SS frets (according to Warmoth) is that they allow for much "smoother" slides and bending.
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the fact that you have a locking nut with a strat tremolo shows that you have no idea what you are doing, the guitar looks very cheap and has no special defining qualities about it, you can pick up 21/22 fret, double humbuckers, flame top guitars anywhere for cheap, only use warmoth for nice custom things not boring things like this, learn more about guitars first before you attempt this.
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Quote by Ashlakh
the fact that you have a locking nut with a strat tremolo shows that you have no idea what you are doing, the guitar looks very cheap and has no special defining qualities about it, you can pick up 21/22 fret, double humbuckers, flame top guitars anywhere for cheap, only use warmoth for nice custom things not boring things like this, learn more about guitars first before you attempt this.



I'm all for criticism, but not for spam. Every time I make a thread someone like you comes and posts shit like this because they're too ADD to read the entire OP.

The Kisekae image you see is a rough mock up. If you look at the text directly below the image it says "The nut will NOT be locking." The rest of what you wrote is complete bullshit and I'm not even going to dignify it with a response.

Your post has been reported because I'm not going to let this thread degenerate into a spam-fest within its first week.
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Quote by Schism1985
I'm all for criticism, but not for spam. Every time I make a thread someone like you comes and posts shit like this because they're too ADD to read the entire OP.

The Kisekae image you see is a rough mock up. If you look at the text directly below the image it says "The nut will NOT be locking." The rest of what you wrote is complete bullshit and I'm not even going to dignify it with a response.

Your post has been reported because I'm not going to let this thread degenerate into a spam-fest within its first week.


"Spam is the abuse of electronic messaging systems (including most broadcast media, digital delivery systems) to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately. ..."

you don't even know what spam is, i was simply being critical no need to (in your words) be ADD, you can buy all of what you wan't for less than half the price of Warmoth from other retailers. The text directly above the image says

"here are the exact specs for the guitar "

i stopped reading there, why would you have

"here are the exact specs *picture* oh yeah lol they aren't the specs but"

it doesn't make any sense, and there was no need to report me, if people keep criticizing all of your threads...maybe you should stop making threads...

and i swear if someone posts that pic that says people who fight on the internet are retarded...
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Ashlakh...
Get out... Now.
Seriously. Not every guitar has to be exquisite with all those doo-dads and what-not.

Schism:
Seems like a great plan!
Good choice on the Schaller Strap Locks.
Are those the one that just sit in place on the Strap Pin?
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Quote by Ashlakh
"Spam is the abuse of electronic messaging systems (including most broadcast media, digital delivery systems) to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately. ..."

you don't even know what spam is, i was simply being critical no need to (in your words) be ADD, you can buy all of what you wan't for less than half the price of Warmoth from other retailers. The text directly above the image says

"here are the exact specs for the guitar "

i stopped reading there, why would you have

"here are the exact specs *picture* oh yeah lol they aren't the specs but"

it doesn't make any sense, and there was no need to report me, if people keep criticizing all of your threads...maybe you should stop making threads...

and i swear if someone posts that pic that says people who fight on the internet are retarded...




You just looked at the picture labeled "Rough Mock Up" and didn't even read the 12-14 lines of actual specs listed below?

Answer me this, where exactly can you find a carved top soloist body with a non-standard finish (Black-Brown-Yellow burst) applied by hand, with a custom rout for a Fender Stratocaster trem and a non-standard pickup configuration (the standard soloist is H/S/H, mine is H/H).

Where can you buy a 21 fret, flame maple neck with vintage gloss tint and a Brazilian Rosewood fretboard, with a double expanding truss rod, a graph tech TUSQ XL nut and compound radius?

You're not being critical, you're being a jack ass and posting ignorant comments which are completely irrelevant to my project. If you had read the OP instead of just skipping to the pictures like a 3 year old you'd know that this guitar is by no means the average Soloist.

EDIT: @Timbit, thanks for the support man, but this guitar actually will have a shit load of features once it's done (Temol-No, locking tuners, stainless steel frets, strap locks, high quality pickups, graph tech saddles etc.).
Last edited by Schism1985 at May 30, 2010,
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Looks like a cool little project. Not sure how i feel about the colors yet, I'll judge when the real stuff comes in.
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Should be really fun! I do wonder why you're putting a strat trem on a soloist. it just doesn't seem to match...

do you know what your flame top is going to look like? I thought I read you could pick your top online.
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You gotta tell us how those Stainless-Steel frets feel when the truck rolls in with your stuff.
I'm a bit Pessimistic about them.
I don't really know what a Tremol-No does though.
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The Tremol-No keeps the bridge from moving with thumb screws. You loosen the thumb screws to release the bridge. I have one on my Damien FR. Works pretty well, but the strings still detune during big bends. Probably won't need it with a standard Fender trem, but it's your party.
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Schism just don´t listen to him :x

It looks like a great plan bro, how bout the vol pot is closer to the body sooo you can play the guitar and play with it with your pinky =D And gotta love nailbombs bro!

This sorta looks like a guitar a friend wants, can i show him your mockup (lazy as fk to use kise lol).
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I'm wondering about both the stainless steel frets and the Tremol-no, I just went to their site, and it looks pretty good. And on the Kisekae, you have a blade switch, is this going to be a 3 way or a 5 way with something like splits (or a super switch )


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Quote by Sonic Blast
Should be really fun! I do wonder why you're putting a strat trem on a soloist. it just doesn't seem to match...

do you know what your flame top is going to look like? I thought I read you could pick your top online.


I wanted a good trem, but I didn't want the hassle of a Floyd Rose. Not sure what the top's going to look like, the only choice tops they had were like $300 extra...


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Schism just don´t listen to him :x

It looks like a great plan bro, how bout the vol pot is closer to the body sooo you can play the guitar and play with it with your pinky =D And gotta love nailbombs bro!

This sorta looks like a guitar a friend wants, can i show him your mockup (lazy as fk to use kise lol).


Sure, go ahead

I'll be sure to comment on the SS frets once the project's complete.
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Quote by Schism1985


You just looked at the picture labeled "Rough Mock Up" and didn't even read the 12-14 lines of actual specs listed below?

Answer me this, where exactly can you find a carved top soloist body with a non-standard finish (Black-Brown-Yellow burst) applied by hand, with a custom rout for a Fender Stratocaster trem and a non-standard pickup configuration (the standard soloist is H/S/H, mine is H/H).

Where can you buy a 21 fret, flame maple neck with vintage gloss tint and a Brazilian Rosewood fretboard, with a double expanding truss rod, a graph tech TUSQ XL nut and compound radius?

You're not being critical, you're being a jack ass and posting ignorant comments which are completely irrelevant to my project. If you had read the OP instead of just skipping to the pictures like a 3 year old you'd know that this guitar is by no means the average Soloist.

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The reason i didn't read the text below was because the text above made it seem too amateurish, almost all the parts you are acquiring for this project can be bought from many eBay (am i aloud to mention that website?) including from many stores, one seller makes custom necks with insane specs. Double expanding truss rods are basically standard these days as well, there was even one on a $19 neck i bought from china that had it, the graph tech nut can easily be installed as stewmac sells pre-cut nuts (some filing is still needed, but general not much), i was being critical, you have to learn to deal with criticism once in a while and there is no need to result to insults about my nature, you do not know me, i will however agree on the ignorance about the post, i did skip ahead but thats because so many of these threads pop up with people having no idea what they are talking about (eg " hey lol guys i have an squier i want emg's and floyd for teh BR00TALZ" etc) the soloist is now growing on me but i still think you should have done a bit more research before jumping strait to Warmoth as you could have saved alot of money


i didn't mean to come across as a c**t either...
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Quote by Ashlakh
The reason i didn't read the text below was because the text above made it seem too amateurish, almost all the parts you are acquiring for this project can be bought from many eBay (am i aloud to mention that website?) including from many stores, one seller makes custom necks with insane specs. Double expanding truss rods are basically standard these days as well, there was even one on a $19 neck i bought from china that had it, the graph tech nut can easily be installed as stewmac sells pre-cut nuts (some filing is still needed, but general not much), i was being critical, you have to learn to deal with criticism once in a while and there is no need to result to insults about my nature, you do not know me, i will however agree on the ignorance about the post, i did skip ahead but thats because so many of these threads pop up with people having no idea what they are talking about (eg " hey lol guys i have an squier i want emg's and floyd for teh BR00TALZ" etc) the soloist is now growing on me but i still think you should have done a bit more research before jumping strait to Warmoth as you could have saved alot of money
and
i didn't mean to come across as a c**t either...



It's all good. Just to let you know, I literally researched this project for months before making my purchase. It wasn't an abrupt or spontaneous decision at all.

None of what you said was criticism, it was ignorant drivel that ignored the OP and substituted irrelevant information as "facts."
Last edited by Schism1985 at May 30, 2010,
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Quote by Ashlakh
"Spam is the abuse of electronic messaging systems (including most broadcast media, digital delivery systems) to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately. ..."

you don't even know what spam is, i was simply being critical no need to (in your words) be ADD, you can buy all of what you wan't for less than half the price of Warmoth from other retailers. The text directly above the image says

"here are the exact specs for the guitar "

i stopped reading there, why would you have

"here are the exact specs *picture* oh yeah lol they aren't the specs but"

it doesn't make any sense, and there was no need to report me, if people keep criticizing all of your threads...maybe you should stop making threads...

and i swear if someone posts that pic that says people who fight on the internet are retarded...


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Schism is very well educated when it comes to guitars.
Ashlakh, please don't come into a thread again like this. Ever. Be nicer wehn posting. So much spam, and uneeded comments were created on Schism's thread, they won't be deleted.
Now, no more talk about your angryness, okay?
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you should get both pickups as bareknuckles haha. looks sweet though cant wait to see the finished project.
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Quote by timbit2006
Schism is very well educated when it comes to guitars.
Ashlakh, please don't come into a thread again like this. Ever. Be nicer wehn posting. So much spam, and uneeded comments were created on Schism's thread, they won't be deleted.
Now, no more talk about your angryness, okay?


I am not angry and have every right to be in this thread, as well as everyone else, this was between me ans Schism and we both seem to have worked it out, but i will follow this build and try to put my input ( as helpful and kind as i can be without harsh criticism)
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Have you bought your trem yet? How about something like this Wilkinson Gotoh trem; http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar_tremolos/Wilkinson_Gotoh_VS-100N_Tremolo.html

Modern looks with the simplicity of the S-style trem


Trust me, I looked into those too hahaha. I know they're really popular, but personally I thought they were kind of weird looking and had never tried one in real life so I decided I'd just go to the tried and true modern Strat trem
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Quote by Schism1985
Trust me, I looked into those too hahaha. I know they're really popular, but personally I thought they were kind of weird looking and had never tried one in real life so I decided I'd just go to the tried and true modern Strat trem



Fair do. How about the Hipshot? http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar_tremolos/Hipshot_Tremolo.html?tab=Pictures#details - looks like the vintage, but has funky saddles.

Only a suggestion, but I'll be watching the build whatever trem you go for
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Looks super duper sexy!
After months of talking about it it will finally happen

It's not complete without a single coil and screw levitating above the headstock though.
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Looks like it's gonna be a good guitar.

A tremolo, but not a Floyd? I had no idea such things existed outside of strats. I prefer Floyds because of how they are set up, but I can see where you would prefer a fender trem.

Never liked a Jackson headsock. I prefer 3 + 3 headstocks any day.

Flame maple neck? I wonder how that will turn out. I've never even thought of using it in necks.

And, have you ever used one of those straps. I have the exact same type(in the exact same color) and mine is stiff and cuts into my neck. Do you have this problem.


So much I could say... great build.

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Quote by pokeatthedevil
Looks like it's gonna be a good guitar.

A tremolo, but not a Floyd? I had no idea such things existed outside of strats. I prefer Floyds because of how they are set up, but I can see where you would prefer a fender trem.

Never liked a Jackson headsock. I prefer 3 + 3 headstocks any day.

Flame maple neck? I wonder how that will turn out. I've never even thought of using it in necks.

And, have you ever used one of those straps. I have the exact same type(in the exact same color) and mine is stiff and cuts into my neck. Do you have this problem.


So much I could say... great build.


Hahaha thanks man. Yeah I know it's kind of an "odd" trem choice, but I really wanted to be able to have the tuning versatility in this guitar that you just can't get with a Floyd. My first bridge choice was actually a Schaller Hannes bridge, but they're expensive as f*ck, complicated to install (at least for me) and also pretty hard to find in colors other than brass and chrome.

Anyway, I have a Jackson RR24 w/ a OFR, so I can just do divebombs on that instead

I haven't actually used that strap yet, but It really does seem insanely thick. If all else fails I just use my black web strap (best $10 I ever spent).
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Today I got my custom truss rod cover in the mail (courtesy of Bobby (metalwarrior40)). Gotta say-- I'm really pleased with it. It's a piece of black-stained flame maple inlaid with mother of pearl and with (what appears to be) a slightly tinted clear gloss finish.


*Note: The finish is actually a bit darker looking in real life.

Obviously, the inlay is the roman numeral "IV," the reasons for this choice of inlay are the following:

-"4" is actually a play on words for my last name.
-This will be my fourth electric guitar to date.
- The numeral "IV" can also be read as the word "Ivy," which will most likely be the name for this guitar.
- I spent roughly 4 months planning and saving up money for this project.
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Yea, it's slightly tinted. Not really sure why, i only had one can, which said "clear gloss".
Oh well, i thought it looked pretty sweet with it, so i left it.

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metal warrior with the assist!

This build looks cool. I like te idea of a fender trem instead of a floyd. I loves me a good fender trem.

And I take it a tremol-no is a less permanent form of blocking your tremolo?
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metal warrior with the assist!

This build looks cool. I like te idea of a fender trem instead of a floyd. I loves me a good fender trem.

And I take it a tremol-no is a less permanent form of blocking your tremolo?


Righto, a tremol-no is basically a multi-purpose trem blocker that allows you to easily and effectively block or semi-block your trem, but which can also be disengaged with the twist of a knob so as to allow full trem use.

Basically it's good for indecisive people like me who want to sometimes have the versatility of a tremolo as well as sometimes have the tuning stability of a fixed bridge.

Also, I'm pretty sure that it helps increase sustain.
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#38
Quote by Schism1985
My first bridge choice was actually a Schaller Hannes bridge, but they're expensive as f*ck, complicated to install (at least for me) and also pretty hard to find in colors other than brass and chrome.
I agree it's a bit pricey but it's not really all that complicated to install. All you need to do basically is to drill 8 holes through the body (preferably with a good drill bit and a pillar drill), countersink two of them on the backside and rout for the string retainer bar. It also comes with good instructions on how to do all this. About the availability of colours I don't know in your region. Here in europe you can easily find pretty much any colour they make since schaller is a German company.

[EDIT] Holy crap they are expensive in the US... allparts lists them at $205 - $230. I bought mine (satin chrome) for about $140.
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Quote by Schism1985
Obviously, the inlay is the roman numeral "IV," the reasons for this choice of inlay are the following:

-"4" is actually a play on words for my last name.
-This will be my fourth electric guitar to date.
- The numeral "IV" can also be read as the word "Ivy," which will most likely be the name for this guitar.
- I spent roughly 4 months planning and saving up money for this project.
Not only that but there were 4 reasons for choosing the number 4




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Not only that but there were 4 reasons for choosing the number 4


With that added as a reason, 5

Looks awesome so far.
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