#1
so im looking into my first les paul and i dont know which to get..i can probably spend up to 800-900 bucks but i dont what used because for a big investment like this i would prefer new...but anyway would u guys recommend getting a epiphone les paul custom or a gibson les paul studio...i will be gigging with it...the only thing i dont like about the epiphone customs are the inlays..i dont get y they r square and not trapezoids like most les pauls...but the studios are appartly low quality...so its a tough choice...and the customs are not made in the U.S. as were the gibsons are...help me

low end gibson vs high end epiphone
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#2
well, most of gibson's "custom" line guitars have the square inlays. i actually prefer them. i can tell you that the epiphone customs play extremely well, but i've had a bit of trouble with selector switches on some. i've never played the les paul studio, but "made in the USA" doesn't always mean better.
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#3
thanks for the input...then again your mostly paying for the gibson name not so much quality
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#4
Epiphones are nice guitars contrary to what a lot of people say. My friend owns an amazing epiphone les paul that i think is better than some gibson les pauls. with epiphones its mostly a hit or miss so just try it out first
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Quote by soulsablaze
Epiphones are nice guitars contrary to what a lot of people say. My friend owns an amazing epiphone les paul that i think is better than some gibson les pauls. with epiphones its mostly a hit or miss so just try it out first

+1, i played this guys gibson les paul gary moore sig, and my epiphone standard plus top was 10 times better.
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#6
I disagree. If you're paying top dollar for a Gibson, Taylor, PRS, Fender, Martin or whatever, you are generally going to expect a quality instrument. That's not to say there aren't lemons out there - there are. However, if you went out and bought 100 high dollar PRS guitars and then bought the same quantity cheap quality guitars, the name brand will have far fewer defects and be a better guitar every time. I've bought cheap instruments for my kids and I've bought expensive stuff for myself. I can easily tell you which is the quality instrument, and which is the cheap one.

Buy yourself a decent used Gibson and don't look back. As long as it hasn't been beat to death, it'll be a good instrument and last you several years.

You can either buy 10 cheap guitars that won't last, or you can buy one decent guitar that will. Made in America is the only guitar I buy these days - they are quality.
#7
I can really speak for the Gibson Les Paul Studio (faded mahogany) which I have owned for 2 1/2 years, it plays just as smooth as a Gibson Les Paul Standard, and sounds amazing with the burstbucker pickups. I know people complain about Gibby's quality and rightfully so, but if you are able to thoroughly check the guitar before you buy I would seriously consider the Gibson.
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#8
I think You would be happier with a higher up Epi than a low end Gibson. Like shred said, It's a name. BTW, you may want to look into used gear. you may stumble into a reasonably priced Gibson. They do last for a long time. Had My Les Paul Custom for nearly 30 yrs now.
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#9
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I can really speak for the Gibson Les Paul Studio (faded mahogany) which I have owned for 2 1/2 years, it plays just as smooth as a Gibson Les Paul Standard, and sounds amazing with the burstbucker pickups. I know people complain about Gibby's quality and rightfully so, but if you are able to thoroughly check the guitar before you buy I would seriously consider the Gibson.


i disagree with this. i have an lp standard and a friend of mine has the studio faded mahogany and the epi lp custom. i personally felt that the studio wasn't worth of the gibson logo...it was much lighter and thinner sounding and didn't feel like an overall good instrument...i honestly felt the epi played better, but none felt like my standard.

id def try to find a used standard or something to that degree
#10
I'm also thinking of getting a les paul, i've had my eye on an epiphone left-handed Les Paul Custom. (Yes, left handed )


I have played a gibson les paul and an epiphone les paul, the sound to me was the same, but there is a slight difference in the quality.
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#11
I love my Gibson LP studio deluxe.
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#12
If you can find a good Studio go for it but you'll need to test drive a few to find one.
As for Epiphone, I'd stay away from the Custom. With your budget the best Epi would probably be the Limited Ed 59 or Tribute Les Paul. Both come with better PUs. HS Case. Switchcraft PU Selector etc.
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#14
replace the nut on a epi les paul custom and you'll have a fine guitar, i love mine to death...even though a gibson headstock would make it a whole lot prettier. Epiphones make really good guitars.
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Quote by Mangohabs
i disagree with this. i have an lp standard and a friend of mine has the studio faded mahogany and the epi lp custom. i personally felt that the studio wasn't worth of the gibson logo...it was much lighter and thinner sounding and didn't feel like an overall good instrument...i honestly felt the epi played better, but none felt like my standard.

id def try to find a used standard or something to that degree

that's why he said "thoroughly check the guitar over before you buy it". He could just have one that you don't like.

I think the whole idea that an epiphone les paul custom would be 'better' is ridiculous, because gibson owns epiphone - it's not like they say "hey, lets delibirately make a crap model with the gibson logo and price it higher than the most expensive epiphone! yeah that's a good idea!". You are getting what you pay for, and remember, epiphone is just as much of a big name brand as gibson, if you want to insist that you pay for the brand name, remember the epiphone brand name is worth more to a lot of people (beatles fans for example)



of course gibsons aren't very consistent, but i think that it's not very much to the extent where one will be objectively "better" than another - it's just the little details that make one guitar appeal to another guitarist more than the next. the actual quality control itself is not actually bad at all - there are occasionally some that slip through where they've neglected the fretwork, but that's fixable. and of course they are hand-finished so obviously some finishes are going to look better than others. but people need to stop listening with their eyes. The quality control is far better than it was in the 1960s when you'd get instruments with the necks tilted back or forwards too far making it impossible to set the action correctly, or severely misplaced bridges making intonation impossible. At least 90% of the gibsons nowadays are playable even though most of them will need some adjustment. i'm also aware that 75% of all percentages are just made up on the spot, but you get what i'm saying at least - that there's only a TINY percentage of them that will never be nicely playable guitars, and the rest of it is personal taste which people don't seem to take into account. But yeah, that's why you should try before you buy.
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#16
get the Epiphone les paul standard if u dont like the inlays of the les paul custom. They are the same, just the looks are different.

either get the Epi les paul standard or the Epiphone Les paul standard limited 59' or the Epi les paul tribute.
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