#1
Ok so I'm mapping out my custom guitar, and I need a great bridge pickup. I have hated bridge pickups for as long as I can remember. They are either too shrill, too muddy, or even both in some bad cases. I need a bridge pickup that sounds very punchy (key word PUNCHY) and very full without being muddy. Despite the music being played strictly on the bridge pickups, all kinds of instrumental/prog rock and some metal, I'm actually leaning towards a beefed up tele pickup of some kind, like a Pre B-1. They've always been very powerful sounding, but a little too shrill. I was also looking at an Evo 2, but that sounds way too Steve Vai-ish. So recommend me some punchy pickups, humbucker or single coil!


EDIT: It's going to be a Korina neck-through and a Swamp Ash body
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If you go to SD's website you can enter all your specs, i.e. style, wood, etc, and they'll give you a list of suggestions.

Definitely check out SD's though
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Those are the worst SD's you could possibly choose, but +1 to the guy who said bareknuckles. A Holydiver would fit what you want incredibly.

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Seymour Duncan Invader, SD Dimebucker.. shall I continue?


I heard those were the ones to absolutely avoid...
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These are probably two pickups you should actually stay away from
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Why avoid those? Has anyone of you actually dropped a pickup in a guitar yourself?
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Why avoid those? Has anyone of you actually dropped a pickup in a guitar yourself?
I have. Well, my friends have, which I installed for them and which I've given a fair old road testing. They're both shit, unresponsive, muddy crap. End of.

Anyway. Korina (Limba) neck-through with Swamp Ash wings is an odd mix. Swamp Ash tends to accentuate bass and treble with average mids (no real ''punch'') while Korina (which will dominate the tone since it is neck-through) has good mid presence but soft bass and nearly non-existent treble. Of course it would really help to know what wood the fretboard will be too, what the bridge style is, what the other electronics and hardware will be, etc. But going just off the neck and body woods for now... yeah, that's an odd mix. The mids-heavy Korina is going to dominate, but the Swamp Ash will mute it a little bit and even it out - you're basically going to have a guitar that sounds like Basswood. I would really reconsider those wood choices if I were you.

Anyhoo, for a very ''punchy'' tone with a mostly-balanced-but-slightly-mids-heavy guitar like that, I would go for something Alnico V to VIII based (ceramics won't carry the strong middle frequencies well enough and Alnico IV and lower will sound too soft) with medium-overwound coils. SD Alternative 8, active pickups with Alnico magnets, Hot Rails, etc. Maybe a JB with one 500k pot, one 250k pot and a 0.033uf cap on the tone control. Some form of lightly overwound or stacked P-90 might also do the trick. I would stay away from Fender-style single coil pickups, especially Telecaster pickups, as they tend to be very trebela dn bass-intensive with little mid presence, quite the opposite of 'punchy''.
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No, you should stop.

With the Ash body a Dimarzio Breed would be a pretty good shout for the bridge.
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#16
If you want punchy, get yourself a decent compressor instead of looking at pickups.
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Anyway. Korina (Limba) neck-through with Swamp Ash wings is an odd mix. Swamp Ash tends to accentuate bass and treble with average mids (no real ''punch'') while Korina (which will dominate the tone since it is neck-through) has good mid presence but soft bass and nearly non-existent treble. Of course it would really help to know what wood the fretboard will be too, what the bridge style is, what the other electronics and hardware will be, etc. But going just off the neck and body woods for now... yeah, that's an odd mix. The mids-heavy Korina is going to dominate, but the Swamp Ash will mute it a little bit and even it out - you're basically going to have a guitar that sounds like Basswood. I would really reconsider those wood choices if I were you..



Aw now I'm bummed out. I was hoping to have a Korina-sounding guitar with a little more bite and definition. I guess thats where my logic falls out
Maybe you could recommend some woods for that type of sound?
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Dimarzio D-sonic is unbelievably punchy. Mid-heavy ceramic pickup=lots o' power and punchy. A bit compressed and somewhat boxy though.
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I have a dimebucker in my n.j. assassin it was in there when i bought it...it isnt muddy at all if anything a little too bright. I really dig it on my cleans...i know wierd.
#20
Sounds like the wood you want is just Korina, combined with a pickup that will accent the high end. I think if you get something basic like a PAF and also a good comp pedal you will have all the 'punch' you'll ever need.
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Aw now I'm bummed out. I was hoping to have a Korina-sounding guitar with a little more bite and definition. I guess thats where my logic falls out
Maybe you could recommend some woods for that type of sound?
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Sounds like the wood you want is just Korina, combined with a pickup that will accent the high end.
There's your answer, pretty much. A Korina neck and body will have all the 'punch' you need, at least it will if you get decent quality Korina - lower grade can get a bit muddy, but if it's any kind of custom job you're getting then you should get high-quality wood anyway, no custom builder would use the cheap stuff. Add in a bright pickup with good clarity - something like a SD Jazz model or similar - and you'd be set. That or a thick (i.e. LP/PRS thickness) all-Korina body with a maple/ebony bolt-on neck will also do the trick regardless of pickups.

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^not true, actually (at least from my observation). I've noticed that the ceramic pickups I have are much more mid-heavy than the alnico ones I have which sound somewhat scooped.
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