#1
I've just recently become a member of the seven string guild, purchased an LTD SC607B Natural Finish, (will post pics soon as i get my god damn camera back from the shop )

Im loving the sound from this bad boy, currently Im playing through a Line 6 Flextone II 60W Combo, which is pretty nice. But I want to by a new amp (has to be a combo for poratablility), to compliment this particular guitar.
I believe that especially with active PU's you can get very different sounds from different amps ( for example ive heard from a few people , that my sc607b will sound shite through a mesa, but i havent tried it) I also need a new amp, because ive pretty much given the flextone II to my brother and dont want leave him amp-less if i move out. I do like the flextone II, its an amazing amp for the price, so versatile and great sounds too, custom celestion 12" helps!!!! but i still feel its not quite at the all valve level of tone yet.

When I was last buying an amp it came down to the Flextone II and a TSL Marshall all valve combo. I ended up going the Flexitone as i got it for about 150 bucks cheaper and it is very versatile ( i didnt feel the need to go and buy five stomp boxes instantly, like i would with the marshall ). So now im looking for a combo again towards the top of the range, two models im considering are:

The new range of Line 6 spiders that now feature vavles (bogners? i think the vavles are, but could be way off , and i'd be looking at the 2X12" model)
or the Marshall TSL202 combo ( this is an all valve 2 X 12", with three channels ), they're ver similarly priced (around $2000 AUD).
I just cant decide again, the versitility of the line 6 or the unmatchable tone of an all valve marshall. ?

Has anyone out there played an EMG packing axe through one of the new line 6 valve amps??if so do you think inculding valves has helped line 6 to further close the tone gap between all valve and amp modelling solid state technologies???

Is there any other models / makes i should consider?, mesa is outta my price range , and i dont know much about peavey, but they seem to be a regualr choice of metal heads. Any ideas or opinions would be much appreciated!!!! However usefull or un-usefull !
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Last edited by deftools at May 27, 2010,
#2
So you have around $2000 to play with? If you want versatility, try a Mesa Mark IV. You can get them second hand for $2000, far better deal than $2000 for a new TSL (I've owned both and the Mark IV is infinitely better than the TSL) The Spider Valves are good, but still nowhere near a Mark IMO.
#3
No way! This is the exact 7-string I'll be getting when I can afford it!
Let me know how it plays!

EDIT:

On topic:
My Epi Les Paul's got an EMG in the bridge and I play it through a Fender FM212r and it sounds great.
Mind you, I run it through effects as well. I've never actually ran it through just the amp.
Last edited by Disturbed_EMG at May 27, 2010,
#4
For a 7-string, you are going to want something that has some serious low end. You want that B-string to sound out, right? AU$2,000.00 is about US$1,700.00, so the Marshall is a good choice. The Mesas are too; particularly the MK IV, but I don't know how often they are available in your neck of the woods.

Carvin's V3 is particularly good with 7-strings, as it has been accused of having an "overachieving" bass response. Every one I've ever heard or played sounded fantastic; particularly when loaded with Celestion Vintage 30s. I don't know what it would cost to have Carvin ship one to Australia.

With active pickups, I would stick to an all-valve amplifier.
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#5
5150s and Rectos handle 7 Strings well. As does the Line 6 Vetta.
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For a 7-string, you are going to want something that has some serious low end. You want that B-string to sound out, right? AU$2,000.00 is about US$1,700.00, so the Marshall is a good choice. The Mesas are too; particularly the MK IV, but I don't know how often they are available in your neck of the woods.

Carvin's V3 is particularly good with 7-strings, as it has been accused of having an "overachieving" bass response. Every one I've ever heard or played sounded fantastic; particularly when loaded with Celestion Vintage 30s. I don't know what it would cost to have Carvin ship one to Australia.

With active pickups, I would stick to an all-valve amplifier.


Thanks FatalGear! i forgot all about Carvin Amps, i had a look and i can get their V3 2 X 12" all vavle 100 watter, with foot pedal and celstion vintage 30s for about $2250 AUD. Only problem is all the distirbuters in australia are at least 1000kms from me, so F@ck knows how im gonna play one and i dont think i would spend over 2000 bucks on gear without trying it first !!!! decisions decisions !!! i played a TSL last night with my LTD for the first time and im starting to feel that marshall are a fair behind mesa and a few of their botique competitors in the balls department.
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So you have around $2000 to play with? If you want versatility, try a Mesa Mark IV. You can get them second hand for $2000, far better deal than $2000 for a new TSL (I've owned both and the Mark IV is infinitely better than the TSL) The Spider Valves are good, but still nowhere near a Mark IMO.


Thanks littlephil, so if themark iv was out of the question, would u be leaning towards the TSL or the Spider Valve series??? im curious as you played a TSL, ive played a couple in shops and i never been blown away, by the sound , great tone but i feel that a TSL combo may not be able to produce the balls i require for the music i want to play, they seem to lack a lot of bottom end compared to a TSL 1/2 or full stack.
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#8
The Peavey 3120 is great for 7 string and down tuned playing IMO.
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Quote by deftools
Thanks littlephil, so if themark iv was out of the question, would u be leaning towards the TSL or the Spider Valve series??? im curious as you played a TSL, ive played a couple in shops and i never been blown away, by the sound , great tone but i feel that a TSL combo may not be able to produce the balls i require for the music i want to play, they seem to lack a lot of bottom end compared to a TSL 1/2 or full stack.

Well, with $2000, you could do better than both of the IMO. Where abouts are you?
There's a guy in Sydney selling a Dual Recto (the 2 channel one, which is generally seen as better than the 3 channels) for $2000 or best offer. You could grab that and a decent 2nd hand 2x12 for $2500. They arent as versatile as the Mark IV, but still great for heavy stuff.
EDIT: Just saw you're in Melbourne.
Last edited by littlephil at May 27, 2010,
#10
i would look into one of the 2x12" 1x15" Randall cabs, if you are going for some kind of stack setup. i love my randall 212 115 cab. i use it with either the valveking or RH150G3 in standard tuning and it works great. everyonce in a while i will drop tune, and it works great.
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Well, with $2000, you could do better than both of the IMO. Where abouts are you?
There's a guy in Sydney selling a Dual Recto (the 2 channel one, which is generally seen as better than the 3 channels) for $2000 or best offer. You could grab that and a decent 2nd hand 2x12 for $2500. They arent as versatile as the Mark IV, but still great for heavy stuff.
EDIT: Just saw you're in Melbourne.


Thanks dude, will definetly check out the classifieds for any second dual recto's or mark iv's. Will post pics when i finally make a decision
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#12
Check Melband. Its only stuff from Melbourne (and occasionally interstate) and there are a lot more people posting there than in the Aussie Classifieds here. Another dude is selling an ENGL Powerball for $2k as well.
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wat.


No really, what?



Yer, I know, mesa.... shit ?????
WTf, but like i said that is not my opinnion, ive never played it through a mesa, **** dont think i Ever even played a mesa, full stop! but in a few of the reviews, some people with mesa's weren't a big fan, so i was putting it out there to see if it was the consensus or just a few anomalies... do you / have you owned a sc607b and a mesa??? can u confirm / deny ???? im pretty sure if you plugged a pigs arse into a mesa it would sound good, so i doubt the ltd could sound shite.
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Last edited by deftools at May 29, 2010,
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Quote by littlephil
Check Melband. Its only stuff from Melbourne (and occasionally interstate) and there are a lot more people posting there than in the Aussie Classifieds here. Another dude is selling an ENGL Powerball for $2k as well.



Thanks Phil!! consider it bookmarked.
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wat.


No really, what?

+1, 7 String + Mesa Recto = THE 7 String Sound of the 90s/early 2000s...
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Yer, I know, mesa.... shit ?????
WTf, but like i said that is not my opinnion, ive never played it through a mesa, **** dont think i Ever even played a mesa, full stop! but in a few of the reviews, some people with mesa's weren't a big fan, so i was putting it out there to see if it was the consensus or just a few anomalies... do you / have you owned a sc607b and a mesa??? can u confirm / deny ???? im pretty sure if you plugged a pigs arse into a mesa it would sound good, so i doubt the ltd could sound shite.





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#18
Now that i've had some time have a look around, i think its worth me waiting a bit longer and putting away an extra 500 bucks. But im wondering, for that money I can get a top of the line combo or even a half decent stack, so which should I get??? I would love the extra bottom end that a 1/2 stack gives, but are they any good at low volume?? , i.e can i play it when anyone else is home??? Nearly everything i'm seeing is 100w ! ive got a 60w L6 flextone II combo and i dont need it past three when anyone is home. Are there some 60w heads etc out there?
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#19
Quote by mmolteratx
The Peavey 3120 is great for 7 string and down tuned playing IMO.


+1

My XXX and Mesa cabinet take my bari, 7- and 8-strings well.
#20
After screwing around for a while I've finally made a purchase. I bought a Bugera 6262 Head and an orange PPC 212 Cab, got them for $2000AUD all up. Just couldnt quite afford a carvin, peavey or 2nd hand mesa, but this thing sounds ****ing amazing through that cab, just gotta wait 3 weeks for my cab to arrive
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Last edited by deftools at Jun 3, 2010,
#21
AH! I got my Mark IV for that much! Should have waited man.
There was some amazing deals on Melband this week; an ENGL Powerball for $1600 and a Splawn Quickrod for $1400! I should have shown you them but they probably sold before I could.