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I was at a local show, (there were less than 60 people there) and a post-hardcore band was playing. There were these two fat guys who kept running around and pushing the girls in the front around for no reason, and during one of the band's songs, the fat blonde one, ran up to the front, checked around him (saw me) swung his hands around, and hit me in the forehead.
I got kind of angry at this, since he looked at me before swinging his hands around, tapped him on the shoulder, lightly punched him and gave him a 'wtf' face. A few seconds after this, the other fat kid (his friend) walked over to me, and harshly pushed me over. I got up, decided not to do anything about it, my boyfriend got in between myself and the crowd to protect me from anything else, and the guy pushed both of us twice, I fell over into the stage, hit my chin on the corner of it, and was bleeding from the mouth.
I held my chin for a couple seconds, told my boyfriend not to go punch him, like he wanted to, got up and called the guy an asshole, and that he shouldn't punch, and push girls over. His girlfriend came over and started screaming "YOU'RE A B*TCH" over and over again and things like 'don't you talk to my boyfriend like that.' all while a couple people were holding her, and her boyfriend back, because they were both trying to come for me.
After a little while, and they were thrown out of the venue for trying to goddamn beat a 5 foot 3, 95lb girl (ME) up, my boyfriend and I decided to leave. I asked a couple of my bigger friends to come outside with us, just in case any of the three were there, and the girl was. She came at me, yelling about me being a b*tch again, and my friends Shawn and Ryan grabbed her arms and legs and carried her away from me.


tl;dr: I got punched in the face at a show (not in the pit, or anywhere near it), and called the guy out for it. His friend pushed me very hard three times, made me and my boyfriend fall over, I was bleeding from the mouth and the guy's girlfriend tried to beat me up twice.


Am I in the wrong? I don't think the second guy, or his girlfriend should have gotten involved AT ALL, I would not have taken the first punch on the girl, probably would have punched the guy in the face if I were stronger. There was enough room behind us that was open for the guy to swing his hands around.
Also; post stories of you at shows, seeing fights, being in them, or stopping them.
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#3
I don't understand this random beatings malarky, really don't. Usually they hang around in larger groups though, and target people who don't look like they cause trouble. It's an easy fight, but it makes them feel like they're hard cunts.

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Am I in the wrong? I don't think the second guy, or his girlfriend should have gotten involved AT ALL, I would not have taken the first punch on the girl, probably would have punched the guy in the face if I were stronger. There was enough room behind us that was open for the guy to swing his hands around.
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owned by the fat kids? sux 2bu
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The 5"3' girl is me, so I'm not going to punch people that obviously have no problem hitting girls, that'd be face-suicide.
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The 5"3' girl is me, so I'm not going to punch people that obviously have no problem hitting girls, that'd be face-suicide.
So true. Better to just accept your role in life.

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No srsly, you were fine to call them out. I hate it when people fight at gigs too.
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I was at a local show, (there were less than 60 people there) and a post-hardcore .

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REALLY.

She "called them out" but wasn't ready to back it up. Either get someone in the mix who has the balls to deal with the jerks or just stay out of their way. All she managed to do was make things worse for herself, every step of the way. Pathetic.
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GaijinFoot; that's the best way I can describe the band, the other bands playing weren't hardcore at all, I played an acoustic set earlier that night, and a poppunk band was on before and after them. More high energy alternative, but post-hardcore sounds the best way to describe it.

and SYK; O used to have respect for you. Yes I made it worse for myself, but I hardly even punched the guy, more of a light tap with my fist, and those two were going around purposely pushing girls earlier in the night too, for no reason. There was an open pit JUST behind them, they would have backed up two feet and been within arms reach of no one. That's why I was angry. Because hardcore kids are just stupid, and don't have a care for anyone else.
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wtf? i'm suprised your boyfriend didn't kick the guys ass. i would have honestly and i'm not a violent person, who shoves a woman into the stage? you weren't in the wrong IMO

when i read the title i figured it was jsut one of those kids who started a fight and came on here to brag about it until i saw who TS was.
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#18
This is why I don't go to concerts, there's always idiotic people there that just want to be "badass"
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Yes I made it worse for myself, but I hardly even punched the guy, more of a light tap with my fist
See, that's where you went wrong. You performed a meaningless gesture. You acknowledged that this guy got to you. But you weren't prepared to deal with him, head-on. Exactly what he was looking for.

Instead of what you did, you had 3 good choices, the rest are shit.

Option 1 -
Get security involved. Find a bouncer and point these guys out to him. Let the pros handle it.

Option 2 -
Shake it off and get out of their way. Let them become someone else's problem.

Option 3 -
Thermonuclear. Grab a beer bottle and break it over his skull. Use the splintered stub to gash his face.


Next time, pick one of those.
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wtf? i'm suprised your boyfriend didn't kick the guys ass. i would have honestly and i'm not a violent person, who shoves a woman into the stage? you weren't in the wrong IMO

when i read the title i figured it was jsut one of those kids who started a fight and came on here to brag about it until i saw who TS was.



Dominic asked me like five times was like 'I don't CARE if I get my ass beat, If I get a good punch, it'll break his nose.' and I told him not to, wouldn't have wanted him to get hurt over something stupid. He's just as small as I am, 5"5' 110lbs, and these guys were at least six foot, 200 pounds.
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See, that's where you went wrong. You performed a meaningless gesture. You acknowledged that this guy got to you. But you weren't prepared to deal with him, head-on. Exactly what he was looking for.

Instead of what you did, you had 3 good choices, the rest are shit.

Option 1 -
Get security involved. Find a bouncer and point these guys out to him. Let the pros handle it.

Option 2 -
Shake it off and get out of their way. Let them become someone else's problem.

Option 3 -
Thermonuclear. Grab a beer bottle and break it over his skull. Use the splintered stub to gash his face.


Next time, pick one of those.

Sorry for the probable double post

1: there is no security at Neptunes, I would have done that option if I could have.
2: Probably should have done that, but I would have done something about it, I went for the second guy who pushed me, but my boyfriend held me back.
3: I wouldn't have been able to find a beer bottle that quickly, and I don't think I'm strong enough to break one over someone's head anyway. but that one was at least a bit humorous.
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#22
fat guys sound like douchebags the rest of the crowd should have revolted and threw them in a trash bin and rolled them of a bridge.
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Dominic asked me like five times was like 'I don't CARE if I get my ass beat, If I get a good punch, it'll break his nose.' and I told him not to, wouldn't have wanted him to get hurt over something stupid. He's just as small as I am, 5"5' 110lbs, and these guys were at least six foot, 200 pounds.

i'm not saying he was doing anything wrong by not kicking their asses. actually it was probably better that he kept a level head through that, if he had of gone off it might not have ended well for any of you.

i still don't understand wtf those dude were doing though, what would they gain from shoving girls at a show? if they were looking for a fight why not push the guys?
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This is why I don't go to concerts, there's always idiotic people there that just want to be "badass"

if you're gonna have that attitude you might as well kill yourself. Idiots are everywhere.
If they stop you from doing something then you've failed at life.
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Thanks for the advice man! I'm totally changing my ways! I'm gonna stop hiding behind these walls and live my life! I'm gonna buy shit loads of tickets to concerts man!
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I got kind of angry at this, since he looked at me before swinging his hands around, tapped him on the shoulder, lightly punched him and gave him a 'wtf' face.


You should have stabbed him after you punched him instead of making a "wtf face", or punched him more... really though making a face at someone after just punching them sounds a bit silly.
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2: Probably should have done that, but I would have done something about it, I went for the second guy who pushed me, but my boyfriend held me back.

Shaking it off and ignoring them isn't really a solution. They're obviously idiots who like being a pain in the ass. At least by lightly hitting one of them you showed that you weren't just gonna take their crap. If you had ignored them they would have probably carried on anyway. I don't know about you, but I would have been pretty pissed off at myself for just letting myself be pushed around, if I hadn't called him out or anything. At least this way you got them kicked out. So, minor victory
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Yeah, a lot of trash in Tampa, especially at a post-hardcore show with only 60 people....haha, i find it funny.
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Am I in the wrong?

IMO, what you did was justified, although it probably could have been handled better by calling security. Those guys had no right to hurt random people.
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The 5"3' girl is me, so I'm not going to punch people that obviously have no problem hitting girls, that'd be face-suicide.

Don't punch, pick up the nearest chair/baseball bat/easily swingable object and use it.
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3: I wouldn't have been able to find a beer bottle that quickly, and I don't think I'm strong enough to break one over someone's head anyway. but that one was at least a bit humorous.
Not funny. Serious as a heart attack.


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Reach in your pocket right now. You have keys, right?
Hold them in your hand so they point out between your fingers when you make a fist.
Weapon.

He has nuts, you have a knee. Learn to use it. When he doubles over in pain, that's when your fist with the keys hits his face. Hunks of meat will be dislodged. If you aren't prepared to go big, stay home. Don't argue. Don't threaten. Don't even acknowledge their existence. Shake it off and either get gone or hit them hard, fast, and repeatedly, before they even know what happened.

You can't reason with jerks. You can't shame them into doing the right thing, unless you are bigger and they fear you. You prove nothing by "calling them out". You just make yourself more of a target.
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Wait a minute you're a girl and you're 5 foot 3?


Why the fuck didn't you headbutt the fucker in the crotch?
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Shaking it off and ignoring them isn't really a solution. They're obviously idiots who like being a pain in the ass. At least by lightly hitting one of them you showed that you weren't just gonna take their crap. If you had ignored them they would have probably carried on anyway. I don't know about you, but I would have been pretty pissed off at myself for just letting myself be pushed around, if I hadn't called him out or anything. At least this way you got them kicked out. So, minor victory
You call that a victory? Blood was spilled. Hers, not theirs.

Seriously, dude. Have you ever even been in a fight?
Have you NOT been someones bitch as a result of the fight?
Your definition of minor victory looks like total loss to me.
Better to walk away in the first place than subject yourself to that shit.


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Wait a minute you're a girl and you're 5 foot 3?


Why the fuck didn't you headbutt the fucker in the crotch?
There ya go. Everything around you is a weapon, if you know how to use it.
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#36
This is such a f*cked up story. I can't believe those douches we're trying to fight a girl at a show honestly for no apparent reason other than just to be dicks. I hate people at local shows who don't come for the music or at least to hang out but instead just want to instigate shit.
#37
Things didn't go out great, but if it happens again, you'll respond a lot more efficiently, so just let this one slide off your back, don't let it bother you past this minute.
You'll thank yourself later.
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You call that a victory? Blood was spilled. Hers, not theirs.

Seriously, dude. Have you ever even been in a fight?
Have you NOT been someones bitch as a result of the fight?
Your definition of minor victory looks like total loss to me.
Better to walk away in the first place than subject yourself to that shit.

Gandhi believed in non-violence. Are you saying everything he did was a defeat? Please.

Obviously we both have different principles. I believe that getting those dickheads removed was a success. Obviously you would have liked to see their innards painted over the walls.

Yeah, I admit, I could count the number of fights I've been in on one hand, but I stand up for myself or friends when necessary. The last time one of my friends walked away from a potential fight situation, he got a bottle thrown at his head.
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#39
first, why pick on a chick second, when c*nts get lippy, knock em out, i get pretty pumped after a mosh.
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Thanks for the advice man! I'm totally changing my ways! I'm gonna stop hiding behind these walls and live my life! I'm gonna buy shit loads of tickets to concerts man!

I'm glad I helped! Just to think, a few hours ago you were piss scared to step outside your comfort zone. I'm impressed.
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