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#1
It's ridiculous, how america and the white settlers, just raped and killed the Native Americans, and put them on little dump holes of land, dont you guys think they should get some justice now, And what's your Opinions on them?

Sorry if this is a bad thread idea im just bored
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#2
What do you mean by 'justice?' That could mean different things to different people, especially in a situation like this.
#4
My thoughts are that its stupid for a minority to ask for special privileges to make them equal.

Besides you ever stop to think about if the native Americans ever killed or raped a Caucasian? (They aren't Indian. Indians live on the other side of the globe.)
#5
Everyone who was involved in this is dead dude. No justice can be done. No one today is affected by this AT ALL. I'm Cherokee btw.
#6
yeah honestly that was two hundred something years ago, and we do give them special rights. there is a rez less than ten miles away and those ****ers are doing really good and they get lots of money for just being affiliated with their tribe.
#7
Quote by GRiMM94
What do you mean by 'justice?' That could mean different things to different people, especially in a situation like this.

i mean shouldnt they have atleast been granted some of their land back, instead of kept on these tiny areas of land, i mean nowadays people treat them like ****ing museum exibits, i jsut find it messed up
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#8
Because of the fact they always fought back with violence, giving white settlers more of a reason to just kill every one they saw. And now there's hardly any left
#9
Quote by JacobTheMe
My thoughts are that its stupid for a minority to ask for special privileges to make them equal.

Besides you ever stop to think about if the native Americans ever killed or raped a Caucasian? (They aren't Indian. Indians live on the other side of the globe.)

Oh god

I thought something had happened and a few indians got killed and I missed the news
#10
Shut up with your hippie 'everybody chill and smoke a bowl' nonsense.
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#11
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Everyone who was involved in this is dead dude. No justice can be done. No one today is affected by this AT ALL. I'm Cherokee btw.


This also. Who are you to care? If anything holding grudges just makes it worse.
#13
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Lol, come on dude, you cant be serious. Just think about it for a minute

It's a fair question. Does he mean that the government should give the Natives a bunch of money? Is he referring to vigilante/militant justice? Does he mean that we should give their land back? All three? He was pretty vague.

EDIT: He explained himself while I was typing.

I personally think that things should stay the way they are. It's a bit late now, especially seeing as the Caucasian settlers who committed these crimes are now all dead, as are the Native victims of those crimes. It's over.
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#14
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Because of the fact they always fought back with violence, giving white settlers more of a reason to just kill every one they saw. And now there's hardly any left

well yea dude, say your living on this place, with your family, and abunch of guys come up and started shooting everyone, tell me you wouldnt fight back with violence
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#15
dude, we gave them that land for free, we give a lot of shit to the indians, and they make what we give them shit holes because they treat everything like a shit hole, and expect more.
#16
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Manifest Destiny. That is all.

i find manifest destiny one of the most of many ****ed up things america ever did
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#17
Quote by GRiMM94
It's a fair question. Does he mean that the government should give the Natives a bunch of money? Is he referring to vigilante/militant justice? Does he mean that we should give their land back? All three? He was pretty vague.

EDIT: He explained himself while I was typing.

I personally think that things should stay the way they are. It's a bit late now, especially seeing as the Caucasian settlers who committed these crimes are now all dead, as are the Native victims of those crimes. It's over.

I don't think his post was directed at you
#18
Quote by FIamingo
dude, we gave them that land for free, we give a lot of shit to the indians, and they make what we give them shit holes because they treat everything like a shit hole, and expect more.

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#19
Quote by DavidBuchanan
Everyone who was involved in this is dead dude. No justice can be done. No one today is affected by this AT ALL. I'm Cherokee btw.

Exaclty. American Indians go to the grocery store, have internet, they just "keep" the religion of their ancestors. Keep in mind they aren't the same as they were like 600 years ago
#20
Oh please. I'm sure everyone has had ancestors who were wronged in some way by authorities 200 years ago.
#21
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Sorry if this is a bad thread idea im just bored
Not a good reason to make a thread, really.
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#22
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i find manifest destiny one of the most of many ****ed up things america ever did


And your support for this being?

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Oh god

I thought something had happened and a few indians got killed and I missed the news


Did I miss my own joke?
Last edited by JacobTheMe at May 29, 2010,
#23
Quote by ripdime04
i mean shouldnt they have atleast been granted some of their land back, instead of kept on these tiny areas of land, i mean nowadays people treat them like ****ing museum exibits, i jsut find it messed up

You seriously sound retarded right now. They sit around and get drunk, while running a casino. I have lived on a reservation dude, I would know. They don't have it worse than any other lazy douche bags that won't get out and work.
#26
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Did I miss my own joke?

No no I just meant I was trying and trying to make sense of the OP until you came and said Indians = Native Americans.
#27
Quote by ripdime04

owait, i was thnking of canada :/ but yea, up here in the great white north, a hefty majority of the natives aren't even actually native, they were just married into the 'tribe' and most my friends are native, and they're whiter than me. also, on the local rez, the houses are nicer than most you can find in town, but they dont respect that. also, a lot of natives are asses, and thats speaking from experiences... but theres also a lotof nice ones :P
#28
Meh. Worse things have happened, and are on going. THey have freedom of speech, and they have the freedom to go where they want. Isn't that enough?
#29
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Shut up with your hippie 'everybody chill and smoke a bowl' nonsense.

fuck you man, i never said that shit, im talking about indians, cut and dry
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#30
Quote by kalnoky7
No no I just meant I was trying and trying to make sense of the OP until you came and said Indians = Native Americans.


Oh okay.

Yeah, I see how that could be really confusing.

But yeah, most Americans call them Indians because apparently they are from India or something like that.

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fuck you man, i never said that shit, im talking about indians, cut and dry


hey bro wuts with the negative vibes

peace love pot
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#31
Quote by ripdime04
i find manifest destiny one of the most of many ****ed up things america ever did


America will always find ways to justify there **** ups. Basically Manifest Destiny said we have the right to do that because Democracy is so great the it must "spread from sea to shining sea".

It's the same way we justified Vietnam, because God forbid we allow Communism to spread...

It's bullshit man.
#32
Quote by ripdime04
fuck you man, i never said that shit, im talking about indians, cut and dry



Indians live in india.
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#33
My ancestors came to America long after the Native American Removal therefor, as with slavery, I don't really feel inclined to assume responsibility for it.
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#34
Shouldnt Americans demand money from the UK because of how they were taxing us back in the 1700's. Shouldnt most of Europe be demanding money from france after what Napoleon did? Shouldnt a huge section of the world demand repayment from Italy for what Rome did?

That logic really doesn't work now does it
#35
Quote by ripdime04
fuck you man, i never said that shit, im talking about indians, cut and dry

Still with the "indians"?

But seriously, what do you think should be done? Why would anyone pay for offenses made by someone else?
#36
Quote by JacobTheMe
And your support for this being?


Did I miss my own joke?


the facts that they thinks it their job becuase "GOD" told them too, go around and take peoples land over

and guys im just gonna delete this if im gonna get flamed, it has nohing to do with hippy shit im just trying to get a conversation going, and ill change it from indians to native americans
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#37
Quote by JacobTheMe
Oh okay.

Yeah, I see how that could be really confusing.

But yeah, most Americans call them Indians because apparently they are from India or something like that.


hey bro wuts with the negative vibes

peace love pot

your cool dude
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#38
shit guys i was just trying to see your guys opinions on the whole Native Americans-White Settler Thing, thought it would be a cool discussion, seriously if you guys wanna just flame me ill just delete it
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#39
Quote by ripdime04
the facts that they thinks it their job becuase "GOD" told them too, go around and take peoples land over

and guys im just gonna delete this if im gonna get flamed, it has nohing to do with hippy shit im just trying to get a conversation going, and ill change it from indians to native americans


Well how do you expect to have a conversation where everyone has the exact thoughts that you do?

"Hey bros indians r cool we should chill with them. "
"Yes. I agree."

You are an arrogant twat who needs to learn the basics of human interaction. As well as hypocrisy.
#40
To deny that Native Americans were treated horribly would be extremely ignorant.

However, there is not much that can be done besides financial aide to reservations. Reservations are actually immensely poor, and if those who live there actually want decent lives most of the time they must leave their "homes."

Its a decisions they have to make.

a) Leave their traditional homeland (though it may not actually be that traditional of a homeland to begin with) and have a decent quality of life

or

b) Stay and suffer.
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